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Alex
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:38 pm Reply with quote
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The Alfine 11sp sounds awesome:
http://road.cc/content/news/13981-shimano-alfine-11-speed-hub-car-park-test

The projected prices for the US are in the $420 range. It sounds like 85% of a Rohloff for about 40% of the price, and much nicer than the Alfine 8sp.
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fatasian
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:45 pm Reply with quote
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420
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jimmythefly
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:04 pm Reply with quote
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Oh sweet jeebus. Lighter than the 8speed. Single-cable system. Reporters couldn't tell which gear was direct-drive. I've been sitting in that spot where Rohloff is too much, Alfine 8 not enough. This could sway me.
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joeball
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:10 pm Reply with quote
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fatasian wrote:
420


that's right deven, this hub sound dope.
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key lime
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:30 am Reply with quote
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I'm getting all melty just thinking of this

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jimmythefly
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:28 pm Reply with quote
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Wasn't it something over a year between learning of the Alfine hubs and being able to actually buy them? I hope this is available sooner, and not just to NAHBS builders.
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langston
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:28 pm Reply with quote
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and what is even more sexy than internal geared hubs? belt drives! Looks like by late spring you can get an Alfine with the Gates Carbon drive. Verrrrry tempted.

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joeball
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:51 pm Reply with quote
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langston you can go down to Recycled Cycles and buy an Alfine/Belt Drive right now.

http://www.raleighusa.com/bikes/hybrid/alley-way/

Jimmy, while the 11-speed may 6 months to a year away it will probably be released within that range. As opposed to the S3X from S/A that took almost 2 years.
http://sunrace-sturmeyarcher.blogspot.com/2008/09/s3x-fixed-gear-3-speed.html

Obviously there is a functioning prototype and Shimano seems very good at actually producing what they preview rather than it just be vapor-ware.
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langston
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:07 pm Reply with quote
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joeball wrote:
langston you can go down to Recycled Cycles and buy an Alfine/Belt Drive right now.

http://www.raleighusa.com/bikes/hybrid/alley-way/

Jimmy, while the 11-speed may 6 months to a year away it will probably be released within that range. As opposed to the S3X from S/A that took almost 2 years.
http://sunrace-sturmeyarcher.blogspot.com/2008/09/s3x-fixed-gear-3-speed.html

Obviously there is a functioning prototype and Shimano seems very good at actually producing what they preview rather than it just be vapor-ware.



Yeah, I know but I would want an Alflie 11 if I were to go that route, if not a Rohloff

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Alex
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:05 pm Reply with quote
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You can't retrofit a belt drive though. The belt doesn't split, so your chainstay has to.
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lantius
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:31 pm Reply with quote
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Alex wrote:
You can't retrofit a belt drive though. The belt doesn't split, so your chainstay has to.

maybe as easy as replacing a dropout though:
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tehschkott
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:38 am Reply with quote
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lantius wrote:
Alex wrote:
You can't retrofit a belt drive though. The belt doesn't split, so your chainstay has to.

maybe as easy as replacing a dropout though:


uh... wat?

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Eric_s
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:36 am Reply with quote
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tehschkott wrote:


uh... wat?


If you look at the picture very closely, you'll see that the droput is split, and the bolt-on plate holds that end of the frame together. So, getting the belt off is as easy as taking two allen bolts out and pulling your seat stay and chain stay apart a bit.
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tehschkott
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Eric_s wrote:
tehschkott wrote:


uh... wat?


If you look at the picture very closely, you'll see that the droput is split, and the bolt-on plate holds that end of the frame together. So, getting the belt off is as easy as taking two allen bolts out and pulling your seat stay and chain stay apart a bit.


ahhhh!

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saccade
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:48 pm Reply with quote
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belt drive would be good with those old elevated chainstay frames

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henry
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saccade wrote:
belt drive would be good with those old elevated chainstay frames



FORK FORK.

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joby
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:30 pm Reply with quote
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Alex wrote:
The Alfine 11sp sounds awesome:
http://road.cc/content/news/13981-shimano-alfine-11-speed-hub-car-park-test

The projected prices for the US are in the $420 range. It sounds like 85% of a Rohloff for about 40% of the price, and much nicer than the Alfine 8sp.


In related news, Shimano's "Sora" group offers most of the range, higher mechanical efficiency, and an even lower price!
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langston
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:34 pm Reply with quote
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joby wrote:

The projected prices for the US are in the $420 range. It sounds like 85% of a Rohloff for about 40% of the price, and much nicer than the Alfine 8sp.


In related news, Shimano's "Sora" group offers most of the range, higher mechanical efficiency, and an even lower price![/quote]


but have they improved that groupo so that the old joke "I'm so Sora about the groupo your new bike came with" is no longer relevant?

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the dreaded ben
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:23 am Reply with quote
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langston wrote:
but have they improved that groupo so that the old joke "I'm so Sora about the groupo your new bike came with" is no longer relevant?


nothing in that vernacular lump of words could be misconstrued as a joke.

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