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blasdelf
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:20 pm Reply with quote
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rob wrote:
ooh, I bought another green bike!


only change I would make would be to get this headlight if you're gonna really ride it at night: http://www.xxcycle.fr/lumotec-iq-cyo-n-plus-175qndi,,fr.php ($75 shipped from that source)

The halogen E6 that's on there is by far the best at super long distance illumination when properly aimed, but the beam is like a lightsaber. The Cyo gives you a nice big field with the perfect standlight.
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blasdelf
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:25 pm Reply with quote
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caustic meatloaf wrote:
Duly noted. How are spokes mass produced? Obviously my google-fu is weak in finding anything between $180 and $3000 online. And I'm too lazy to head the 1/4 mile to Bike So Good and ask.


buy your spokes here: http://www.danscomp.com/products-PARTS-Spokes/435915/Sapim_Stainless_Double_Butted_Spoke.html

40 cents for double butted with nipples, 10 cents extra for black

they're that cheap because they're cut and threaded to length on a machine from a few sizes of blanks by an otherwise-idle bmx kid in their warehouse

if you sign up for their catalog first you get free shipping codes on the mailing labels
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Drain
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:31 pm Reply with quote
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I had 2020 Cycles true up my wheels and put new tubes/tires on last weekend. They did a good job, it's like a brand new bike.

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Andrew_Squirrel
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:47 pm Reply with quote
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Finally finished the "prize" Rodriguez frame I won last year! Took these pictures on a beautiful Lake Sammamish ride yesterday, hot damn it was a nice day.


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Messy Parts List:
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Custom Reynolds 725 Steel Rodriguez Adventure 6L Touring Frame with Travel S&S Couplers (Handmade in Seattle, WA)
Soma Fabrications Chrome Classic Curve Cyclo-Cross / Trekking Fork
Shimano XT Deore Silver Front & Rear Hubs HB-T780 (36 Hole)
Matching XT Quick-Release Skewers
Velocity Dyad 36 Hole Rims
Jack Brown 700c x 33.333 Tires (made by Panaracer for Rivendell)
Velo Orange Smooth Aluminum Alloy 45mm Fenders 700c (fits up to 35mm tires)
Tektro CR720 Cantilever Brake Polished Silver
Kool Stop Salmon Pad Refills BRK25
Matching Tubus Stainless Steel Nova (front) & Cosmo (rear) touring racks
Busch & Müller (B&M) Toplight Line Senso Battery Tail Light
CygoLite Milion 200 LED Rechargeable Headlight
Origin 8 Eyelet Stub Light Mount for M5
3x King Cage Stainless Steel Water Bottle Cages (made in USA)
SRAM PC-971 Power Chain II (9 speed)
SRAM PG-950 11-34 9-Speed Cassette
Sugino Triple XD Crank 48/36/24 170mm with Crown Logo & stainless steel granny gear
MKS Grip King Pedals (for now, testing)
Shimano Deore LX RD-T661 SGS Rear Derailleur
IRD Alpina-d Compact Road Triple Front Derailleur with 28.6mm Clamp-on adapter
Shimano BB-UN55 68mm x 110mm Bottom Bracket
Shimano Dura Ace Brake Cable Set (grey)
Easy-Split In-line Cable Separators
Shimano Dura-Ace 7700 BS77 Bar End Barcon Shifters (3x9 speed compatible)
Cane Creek SCR-5c Compact Aero Brake Levers with Silver Lever & Gum Hood
Nitto Noodle 44cm Handlebar Model 177
Cinelli Gel Bar Tape Corky
3M Brown Electrical Tape 3/4"
VO Threadless Stem 26.0mm clamp, +/- 6 degree rise
Problem Solvers Silver (1 1/8") Cable Hanger
Various Chris King Silver (1 1/8") headset spacers
Chris King Griplock No Threadset Headset Silver (1 1/8") (Sotto Voce Logo)
Salsa Rack-Lock Seatpost Clamp 30mm
Velo Orange Grand Cru Long Setback Seatpost - 27.2mm x 300mm (Silver)
Brooks B17 Imperial Antique Brown Leather Saddle

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tehschkott
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:41 am Reply with quote
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fucking awesome.

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tehschkott
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:13 pm Reply with quote
daywalker Joined: 09 Nov 2007 Posts: 4969 Location: Hatertown
Spent all day riding around Melbourne, and then went to the Wednesday fixie hustle ride. Was assured it was going to be a nice pace and a not too harsh distance.

Fucking liars.

Probably did 25 miles at a pretty balleur pace - fatty me on 26in Travel Gifford, everyone else on fucking awesome Bob Jackson fixies, and one guy on a time trial bike with a solid (whatever you call it) tubular Zipp rear wheel. The bike was the business. sounded like a jet. Fella named Sam had it. it was loud as hell to ride beside him.

Anyhow, a good portion of the route was all winding river path and drainage. I didn't actually have a problem keeping up or with the pace until they started hitting rollers. Then of course the math kicks in and I was last one in.

It was black out. No stars, no moon, high overcast, no streetlights anywhere. Black. Just our bike lights and the path.

There was a point where were pedaling along when a commuter train streaked by overhead and illuminated a 50 foot tall statue of the Buddah in the middle of the field we were circumnavigating. We had no idea it was there. It was absolutely kickass.

We ended up at the Brunswick velodrome where we did some laps, caught our breath and bullshitted for a bit, and then pedaled for burritos and home. Ironically it was on this last lazy leg going for burritos where I got dropped - hit a light and didn't know where they went. Lol.

I don't know if they appreciated my war cries when bombing down big hills as I'm wont to do, or whooping it up when riding through tunnels, or breaking out a couple beers at the velodrome - though one fella (Jamie) took me up on my offer for one. But the night was perfect, the ride was fucking beautiful, and these fellas were nice as hell. Under such circumstances I'm not generally inclined to be quiet.

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Eric the Red
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:31 am Reply with quote
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Disc wheels are fun, noisy as hell.

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dashap
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:56 am Reply with quote
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tehschkott wrote:
Spent all day riding around Melbourne...


Sweet report, Scott; you know, just another 22 words and you'll have 327.
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caustic meatloaf
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:33 pm Reply with quote
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Despite the general VO frustration here, I'm highly tempted to buy this front rack, since hte price is right:

http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/dajia-front-lowrider-rack-stainless.html


Is it worth it, or should I pass?

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Alex
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:02 pm Reply with quote
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That is a terrible design. You either need a hoop (Tubus Tara) or you need racks that mount to both sides of the fork blade (Tubus Duo) to make the racks stiff enough.

If budget is a concern get a knockoff Blackburn FL-1. If you have an excuse to head north the MEC version is under $20:
http://www.mec.ca/AST/ShopMEC/Cycling/PanniersBagsRacks/Racks/PRD~1805-084/mec-lowrider-front-cycling-rack.jsp

You can sometimes find these at Recycled Cycles too.
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caustic meatloaf
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:21 pm Reply with quote
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Hmmm. I dodged another VO bullet!

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jimmythefly
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:54 pm Reply with quote
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Joe, I have one of those MEC ones (or maybe some other brand, but looks identical down to the hardware.

Yours for the cost of organizing a group jersey order.
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caustic meatloaf
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:04 pm Reply with quote
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Hold your horses on it for a little bit - I still need to figure out where the last package of jerseys got delivered to! Fuckin' UPS.

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tehschkott
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:33 am Reply with quote
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Did an 80k Gravel Grinder ride with the Melbourne Gravel Grinders on Sunday. Full ride report is on their blog:

http://melbournegravelgrinders.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/mgg-6-report.html

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jeff
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:02 am Reply with quote
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Serviced my head set. Cleaned, re-packed with grease and re-installed only to find that it is so pitted that it can't be saved.

Installed in-line breaks only to strip the bolt on my rear long-reach caliper breaks.

Nothing like repairs that lead to even more repairs!

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the dreaded ben
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:12 am Reply with quote
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tehschkott wrote:
Did an 80k Gravel Grinder ride with the Melbourne Gravel Grinders on Sunday. Full ride report is on their blog:

http://melbournegravelgrinders.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/mgg-6-report.html


where in the hell did you meet these guys?
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Alex
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:06 am Reply with quote
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I've talked to a couple of them on the internets, and met one (also named Scott) who was travelling out here last summer. He came to one of our semi-annual framebuilding nerd parties (the next one is at Colin's and overlaps with BC7).

I don't know how Scott met them. Tarckbike?

This is the Scott that I met last summer:
http://twitter.com/#!/commutercycles/status/192094834872422402/photo/1
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jimmythefly
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:46 am Reply with quote
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That ride looked awesome/maybe moderately alright, average at best. So cool, I love the video of all the kangaroos!
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caustic meatloaf
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:10 pm Reply with quote
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Update on the touring frame:

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tehschkott
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:56 pm Reply with quote
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the dreaded ben wrote:
tehschkott wrote:
Did an 80k Gravel Grinder ride with the Melbourne Gravel Grinders on Sunday. Full ride report is on their blog:

http://melbournegravelgrinders.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/mgg-6-report.html


where in the hell did you meet these guys?


Yeah Alex hit it. Tarckbike. I put the call out and the following day this fella Andrew Blake (aka Blakey) PMs me with a laundry list of helpful stuff and invites me to this ride he's putting on on Sunday...

Bikes make international travel like 278886432 times better turns out.

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Sweeney
Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:44 pm Reply with quote
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Just mounted this awesome Ahearne Flask that I won racing Professor Dave's 55 Speed Time Trial.
"Just a nip warms ya up..."


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langston
Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 3:28 pm Reply with quote
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Untitled by langston, on Flickr

new chainrings, new rear tire & tube, new derailleur clamp (goddammit). Dropped down from 52t to 49t, mostly due to available parts on hand, but if I find myself geared out It's not that hard to redo with new rings.

New chain inbound too, it was too stretched out for my park tool to even gauge. I'm kind of proud of myself.

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caustic meatloaf
Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 4:07 pm Reply with quote
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Next step will be to throw on a bit of clearcoat to protect the custom paint, and then put it all together. Should be assembled by the end of the month.

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Andrew_Squirrel
Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 4:21 pm Reply with quote
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bomber? I hardly knew her.

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Ductape
Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 5:51 pm Reply with quote
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My first attempt at tubeless.
So far so good...

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Bo Ttorff
Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:59 pm Reply with quote
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looking good Joe
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caustic meatloaf
Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 12:11 pm Reply with quote
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Paintin' and clearcoatin' today. Just wrapped up painting the stem, brake arms, and my crank arms all flat black to match the frame.

Next up is to clearcoat the frame and fork, and then let it all dry for a few days. Assembly starts next week.

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Alex
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Seven Ti S&S coupled f'n mtb. Bought this as a commuter on Craigslist, then moved over more trail oriented parts from my Kona.

Then on Friday night my friend John showed up with a Salsa Ala Carte that was a bit too small for him. I moved all of the parts from his Salsa to the Kona, getting him a bike at a better size. Then I put all of the leftover parts from my basement onto the Salsa, making a pretty nice loaner f'n mtb in a medium fits most people 18" size.

I can also swap the Salsa frame out for a 14" Specialized that fits Christine just by moving the rear wheel (Rohloff) and front fork/bars/stem. Each frame has it's own set of cranks and a rear disk caliper. 3 bolts, one QR, a few zip ties.
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caustic meatloaf
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The touring frame is almost complete. Everything's mounted except the brakes. Did a lot of running around today to get all the little shit taken care of so that I could finally assemble it. tomorrow will be to wrap up the brakes, trim cabling, tune it up, and go for a quick spin to make sure it doesn't fall apart.

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Ductape
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 5:54 am Reply with quote
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First ride/test ride/fun ride....



My back loves me..

First impression with UST: Not great.....

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blasdelf
Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 1:16 pm Reply with quote
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I don't see a lick of sealant in there, did you burp it while going without?

Very little of the documentation from tire and rim manufacturers can be taken at face value, and all of the claims along the lines of "don't need sealant" or "sealant voids your warranty" are just outright bullshit. Even with heavy lined UST tires on hole-less UST-specific rims, not using sealant just defeats the point of the whole endeavor — but nobody involved will tell you that.
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Ductape
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 8:48 am Reply with quote
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blasdelf wrote:
I don't see a lick of sealant in there, did you burp it while going without?

Very little of the documentation from tire and rim manufacturers can be taken at face value, and all of the claims along the lines of "don't need sealant" or "sealant voids your warranty" are just outright bullshit. Even with heavy lined UST tires on hole-less UST-specific rims, not using sealant just defeats the point of the whole endeavor — but nobody involved will tell you that.


Yes it burped within the first 5 minutes coming down on the top trail at Tiger. I purposely followed Mavic's instructions to a tee, curious to see if it would work. Seated the tire with a compressor at home, but once I broke the seal on trail no matter how fast or furious I was with my little Blackburn pump, I could not get it to reseal. I learn slow though and have full intentions of trying one more time without sealant or tube before emailing Mavic for help with their system. I do want to embrace this new technology. 38 psi, I will bump it up to 45. In all fairness I am a big kid and have never been complemented for being a smooth rider. Kinda the king of pinch flats. Thus my desire to try tubeless.
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tehschkott
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:43 am Reply with quote
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DRY TUBELESS DOES NOT WORK.

Read the writing on the wall man. Put sealant in there.

Also you're running your tires way too high. You shouldn't ever go above 40, and should prob hover in the 25 to 30 range.

Carry a couple 16gr CO2 cartridges w you to reseat in the field.

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Alex
Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 5:18 pm Reply with quote
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Co2, air compressors, messy sealant, tubeless sounds like a pain in the ass. And Fred almost had me convinced a few weeks ago.
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PJ Diddy
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I love my Ghetto tubeless setup. I won't ever have a complete tube in my mountain bike.

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Ductape
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tehschkott wrote:
DRY TUBELESS DOES NOT WORK.

Also you're running your tires way too high. You shouldn't ever go above 40, and should prob hover in the 25 to 30 range.



I would hate to think after paying more than I ever have (by far) for a wheel/tire set up, it won't work as advertised. I need to give the product a chance to work as claimed, argue with their tech department, whine about how I was robbed on bike forums, before succumbing to the messy goo..

As far as running 25 PSI, granted it is a FS bike but there are a lot of other variables that make this unlikely for me, the main one being that I pretend I weigh 225 but in reality probably weigh over 230 pushing a rider weight closer to 240..... Tubeless or not, I am sure 25 psi works for a small fella, but for my lardass, it's not gonna cut it (I say this with the experience of many, many pinch flats using a standard tube/wheel system on hardtails, softails, FS, 35-50 psi, in all sorts of trail conditions... ).

After I give in, use goo of some sort and get things to seal, I will start bringing the air pressure as low as it lets me without issues....

This afternoon, I will go up to the Tiger and try for round two.



I do respect the experience and knowledge of people on this forum but also have to demonstrate it to myself that the French lied......
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Tim, not that you need any affirmation but I think you're going the right route by trying to give the UST system a fair shake before denouncing or modifying it. I don't see how sealant would have helped you keep the bead from burping off. That should have been the job of the UST rim and tire design. Also remember that Scott, Fred, and Paul have only started running tubeless f'n mtb systems in the last few months. In fact, this thread might even be the first documentation of a .83er trying it. I'm still waiting to hear more of the downsides of tubeless after more miles have been put on these bikes.

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Also, I'm going to point out that fred is the only person in the abovementioned triumvirate who is classified as a lightweight. Paul is a big guy, and scott is mostly torso and drives to work everyday.

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jimmythefly
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I ran dedicated dry tubeless for a while, back in 2006 on a Specialized sworks Enduro. Mavic XM 819 disc tubeless rims (narrower version of the rims Tim has) with Panaracer Fire XC 26x2.1 tubeless tires.

They set up just fine with a floor pump (though a bit tight bead-wise), and I never burped them. BUT, I did get a flat once, and putting a tube in and getting the tight bead back on was a bit tougher than I was used to.

Combine that with the fact that I like to mess around with different tires and such, and I just decided to go with nicer tires and tubes from there out. I'm coming back around, though, and I've now got a set of "tubeless ready" wheels and tires on the 29er, so at some point I'll pull the tubes and insert sealant.

I really think that's the way to go, the puncture-sealing properties of the sealant combined with the ability to use lighter tires makes sense to me.
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caustic meatloaf
Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 11:04 pm Reply with quote
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I think the long bomber will be ready to roll for Thursday. Gonna take it out for a test spin tomorrow evening and see what I fucked up.

The only truly nasty discovery is that the front fork, with the rim on my front wheel, is a little bit on the narrow side. I had to reverse the brake pads because they won't fit because of the narrowness of the fork. Yet is has canti posts. I guess maybe it was more intended for a different style of front brake.

Well, fuckit. It passed the "push forward and pick up the rear" test. We'll take it out on a nice downhill tomorrow and see how it rides.

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