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Gracie

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 10:56 am

Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 575 Location: Haus deiner Mutter

You're forgetting the most important item: FIRST AID KIT

I can provide some from my work if needed, they're big and sufficient enough to help aid several large groups of people.

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the dreaded ben

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:09 am

Grumpy Greeb Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 5329 Location: flavor country

joeball wrote:

Monday May, 6th 2013
T-Minus 5 Days till NotBC8
Topic: Bike Prep

No more counting weekends. You have to wade through one more work week and then the time is nigh. You should already have the bike you plan to ride to Ben Country in your possession.

A. If you have recently modified* your bike in anticipation of BC you should be riding it to make sure everything is properly adjusted.
*new tires, fender, racks, panniers, cranks, shifters etc....

B. If you have recently acquired a new bike you should be riding it this week to make sure it is up to snuff. Modify as necessary. If B., then see A.

C. If you have neglected your bike since the last BC you should dust it off and be riding it this week to make sure it is ready to go. Modify as necessary. If C., then see A.

D. If you have been riding the shit out of your bike day-in, day-out since the last Ben Country make sure your bike is tight, greased, not too worn, and still on-off road worthy. Modify as necessary. If D., then see A.

Check that your shit is tight:
-Rack Bolts
-Brake Arm Bolts
-Brake Pad Bolts
-Crank Bolts
-Chainring bolts
-QR skewer/H
-Cleat bolts
-Spoke Nipples
-Pedals
-Headset
-Bottom Bracket
-Hubs

Check that your:
-Cables are not frayed
-Tires not too worn
-Chain not squeaky
-Feet don't hit your panniers when you pedal

Have following repair kit at a minimum:
-Spare tube
-Patch kit
-Pump/inflator
-Tools specific to your bike

lulz.
and for godsake get some panniers. this 50 miles with a hiking pack strapped to your back is ridiculous.

axel

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:12 am

Joined: 15 Feb 2013 Posts: 1654 Location: St Johns PDX

thanks for posting this checklist.

joeball wrote:

Chain

this. I've had to get out my chain tool on each of the last two .83 rides for people that have broken their chains. nothing will ruin your weekend faster than breaking a chain in the middle of nowhere. you may or may not be lucky to be riding with someone that is carrying a chain tool.

if you can't remember when the last time was that you replaced your chain, it's probably due. if you've been riding the same neglected chain all winter/spring, it's definitely due.

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Andrew_Squirrel

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:21 am

Joined: 01 Mar 2010 Posts: 2098 Location: Greenwood

I can still hear you saying you would never break the chain

That reminds me, I need to get a halfway decent multi-tool with a chain breaker, that's been on the need-to-research list for at least 2 years.

caustic meatloaf

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:22 am

Joined: 06 Dec 2010 Posts: 1235537 Location: a hammy melange...

Hmmm. The question now is should I get a gas stove, or stick with this experimental titanium ultralight alchohol fueld stove?

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lantius

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:25 am

1337 Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 6705 Location: right over

Bring some beers to drink while waiting for all the mechanicals.

Alex

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:29 am

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 3128 Location: Roosevelt

caustic meatloaf wrote:

Hmmm. The question now is should I get a gas stove, or stick with this experimental titanium ultralight alchohol fueld stove?

This is a Ben country, so you should disregard Ben and bring 3 stoves and two water filters. That is totally what I'd do.

I'm disregarding the early .83 forums Alex (who pissed off Ben by saying "why are cars involved at all") by driving to the BC8.

bott

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:39 am

will kill you in your sleep Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 868 Location: Landlandia

Alex wrote:

I'm disregarding the early .83 forums Alex (who pissed off Ben by saying "why are cars involved at all") by driving to the BC8.

Who was that guy anyway?

bott

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:39 am

will kill you in your sleep Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 868 Location: Landlandia

lantius wrote:

Bring some beers to drink while waiting for all the mechanicLULs.

Rogelio

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 12:03 pm

Joined: 31 Jul 2007 Posts: 3092 Location: Pos, aya, por la Corona-Alta-Madera y que no.

.83 First Aid Kit:

- Red Bandanna x2
- Pocket Knife
- Joby Proof Clear Alcohol
- Nitrile gloves (preferably, clean of any chain lube)
- Zipties

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axel

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 12:33 pm

Joined: 15 Feb 2013 Posts: 1654 Location: St Johns PDX

Andrew_Squirrel wrote:

That reminds me, I need to get a halfway decent multi-tool with a chain breaker, that's been on the need-to-research list for at least 2 years.

Park CT-5. It's small, the pin is replaceable, and it's not a complete piece of crap like the chain tools that are integrated as an afterthought into most multi-tools.

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joeball

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 12:54 pm

Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 6037 Location: Ether

axel wrote:

Andrew_Squirrel wrote:

That reminds me, I need to get a halfway decent multi-tool with a chain breaker, that's been on the need-to-research list for at least 2 years.

Park CT-5. It's small, the pin is replaceable, and it's not a complete piece of crap like the chain tools that are integrated as an afterthought into most multi-tools.

Agreed, when you step up to carrying a chain tool, a dedicated carry sized tool is a good idea. This allows you to just add it to your existing repair kit. The integrated chain tools can be awkward to use.

Rogelio

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:00 pm

Joined: 31 Jul 2007 Posts: 3092 Location: Pos, aya, por la Corona-Alta-Madera y que no.

Double agreed: I've lost plenty of CT-5's because they're a good addition to the tool kit, small, and loanable.

Otherwise: I like my Crank Bros M19 for the added wrenches you have if once you unscrew the chaintool and I because I haven't broken/lost it yet.

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the dreaded ben

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:11 pm

Grumpy Greeb Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 5329 Location: flavor country

speaking of multi tools, has anyone seen by crappy lezyne multi tool?
it looks alot like this...

henry

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:21 pm

somewhat piggish Joined: 05 Aug 2005 Posts: 5415 Location: on porch with shotgun

Can someone please post a checklist for those of us who are driving?

My subaru is not equipped with a tow rope will that be a problem?

Also, i can't decide whether i want to bring both of my cats or one cat and an extra pillow.

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Rogelio

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:25 pm

Joined: 31 Jul 2007 Posts: 3092 Location: Pos, aya, por la Corona-Alta-Madera y que no.

Putting this here:

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Rogelio

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:28 pm

Joined: 31 Jul 2007 Posts: 3092 Location: Pos, aya, por la Corona-Alta-Madera y que no.

henry wrote:

Keg, both cats.

If you have room: a cooler filled with Arnold Palmer would be great for refreshing lounge drinks and as John Daly starter.

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drdiatom

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:36 pm

The Eggman Joined: 02 Feb 2012 Posts: 375 Location: on a hill

henry wrote:

Can someone please post a checklist for those of us who are driving?

cats

joeball

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:37 pm

Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 6037 Location: Ether

henry wrote:

Can someone please post a checklist for those of us who are driving?

Ben (the cat):It's 54 miles to Ben Country, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.

Lulu: Hit it.

J_Dada

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:45 pm

Down 2 FUNK Joined: 14 Oct 2012 Posts: 1274

Quote:

We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a saltshaker half-full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... Also, a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether, and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge, and I knew we'd get into that rotten stuff pretty soon.

axel

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:50 pm

Joined: 15 Feb 2013 Posts: 1654 Location: St Johns PDX

J_Dada wrote:

Quote:

we can't stop here, this is Ben Country.

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Rogelio

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:58 pm

Joined: 31 Jul 2007 Posts: 3092 Location: Pos, aya, por la Corona-Alta-Madera y que no.

Really? Because we'd had one batch of slightly too strong cookies knock out most of the camp for an afternoon.

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lantius

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 2:07 pm

1337 Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 6705 Location: right over

axel wrote:

Andrew_Squirrel wrote:

That reminds me, I need to get a halfway decent multi-tool with a chain breaker, that's been on the need-to-research list for at least 2 years.

Park CT-5. It's small, the pin is replaceable, and it's not a complete piece of crap like the chain tools that are integrated as an afterthought into most multi-tools.

Park CT-5 chain tool, and I love the totally-simple Park MT-1 multitool. I've had too many of the other tools dissassemble themselves into their constituent parts in my bag.

J_Dada

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 2:19 pm

Down 2 FUNK Joined: 14 Oct 2012 Posts: 1274

Rogelio wrote:

Really? Because we'd had one batch of slightly too strong cookies knock out most of the camp for an afternoon.

I kid, and I like to quote movies.

I'll leave the professional stuff at home. Just bringing lots and lots of fine foliage.

Alex

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 4:17 pm

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 3128 Location: Roosevelt

henry wrote:

Can someone please post a checklist for those of us who are driving?

A minimum of 240mm wide tires designed for offroad use.
Full underbody protection
Roll bars
Brush guards
A bumper mounted winch with a minimum of 500' of line
A roof rack at least 70" wide and 110" long
A hitch mounted crane designed for a minimum of 3000lbs which is used to lift:
A baby Subaru mounted on said roof rack. I have one that you can borrow.

Bikes? no room for those

caustic meatloaf

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 4:27 pm

Joined: 06 Dec 2010 Posts: 1235537 Location: a hammy melange...

To add to the list, I'd suggest a MINIMUM of 108mm mortar and/or 120mm HE tank rounds for your vehicle.

FLIR system optional, but recommended.

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lantius

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 4:34 pm

1337 Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 6705 Location: right over

Henry, load up and get out there:

"The Border Patrol's Yuma sector said agents and officers from the Cocopah Tribal Police Department spotted the single-seater go-kart hauling a trailer through the desert near Yuma, Arizona, and gave chase. The driver abandoned the homemade vehicle, which was spray painted a desert beige, fitted with knobbly off-road tires, and towing a trailer packed with 217 pounds of marijuana..."

Chip McShoulder

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 5:09 pm

dog licking ice cream cone Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 3022 Location: Rainbow Road

everyone wrote:

ZOMG. AM I ENOUGH STUFF YET?

This is what I brought to a S24O last summer (Kalen's bachelor party, I think?) that was essentially the same as a BC in terms of equipment needs. It fit in two Ortlieieibs, and was more than enough: (I don't consider myself an especially light packer)

Top to bottom, left to right: Tent, sleeping bag, rain fly, sleeping pad, sweater, socks/ underwear/ t-shirt, camp shoes, gloves/ knife, tent poles, f.y. saw, water purifier, water bottle, stove, oatmeal/ clif bars, toilet kit, mess kit, utensils, tylenol/ bandaids, coffee press, drink mix, light, 5-hour energy, ground coffee, bike bottles, camp towel, book, more clif bars, pump/ bungee cord. and mj (not pictured)

I guess there's a multi-tool, and tube-changing stuff in there also, those just live in one of the paniers.

You could easily skip the woodcutting stuff (saw, gloves), water purifier and nalgene, stove, coffee press, and coffee (and probably more stuff), and be just fine.

You could bring a way to sleep comfortably, a water bottle, a spare tube, and a mechanically sound bike and you will survive.

That said, this year, I will be bringing:

Tent, sleeping bag, rain fly, sleeping pad, sweater, socks/ underwear/ t-shirt, camp shoes, gloves/ knife, tent poles, f.y. saw, water purifier, water bottle, stove, oatmeal/ clif bars, toilet kit, mess kit, utensils, tylenol/ bandaids, coffee press, drink mix, light, 5-hour energy, ground coffee, bike bottles, camp towel, book, more clif bars, pump/ bungee cord, hava nagila, Air mattress, air pump, Repair kit for air mattress, Utility bags for storage, Large water jug & water bucket, tire chains, coolers/ice, thermos, stove with fuel/propane, matches/lighter, charcoal/firewood/buddy burner, dutch oven/tin can stove/box oven/etc, campfire grill/BBQ grill, fire starters/newspaper, tablecloth/thumb tacks/clips, plates & bowls/paper plates & bowls, silverware/plastic silverware, measuring cups, heavy-duty aluminum foil, paper towels, trash bags, dish soap, clothes pins, cooking oil/Pam spray, containers for food storage, potholders/oven mitts, pots and frying pans with lids, soap for outside of pots and pans, cook utensils-spatula, knife, spoon, tongs, skewers/grill forks, can opener/bottle opener, folding table, dutch oven, pie irons, mugs/paper cups, mixing bowl, cutting board, ziplock bags, napkins, dish pan, dish rags/towels, scrub pad/brillo, seasonings/sugar/condiments, potato peeler, Adams, John (1797-1801), Adams, John Quincy (1825-1829), Arthur, Chester Alan (1881-1885), Buchanan, James (1857-1861), Bush, George (1989-1993 ), Bush George W. (2001-2009), Carter, Jimmy (1977-1981), Cleveland, Grover (1885-1889, 1893-1897), Clinton, Bill (1993-2001), Coolidge, Calvin (1923-1929), Eisenhower, Dwight D. (1953-1961), Fillmore, Millard (1850-1853), Ford, Gerald R. (1974-1977), Garfield, James A. (1881), Grant, Ulysses S. (1869-1877), Harding, Warren G. (1921-1923), Harrison, Benjamin (1889-1893), Harrison, William Henry (1841), Hayes, Rutherford Birchard (1877-1881), Hoover, Herbert (1929-1933), Jackson, Andrew (1829-1837), Jefferson, Thomas (1801-1809), Johnson, Andrew (1865-1869), Johnson, Lyndon B. (1963-1969), Kennedy, John F. (1961-1963), Lincoln, Abraham (1861-1865), Madison, James (1809-1817), McKinley, William (1897-1901), Monroe, James (1817-1825), Nixon, Richard M. (1969-1974), Obama, Barack (2009-), Pierce, Franklin (1853-1857), Polk, James K. (1845-1849), Reagan, Ronald (1981-1989), Roosevelt, Franklin D. (1933-1945), Roosevelt, Theodore (1901-1909), Taft, William H. (1909-1913), Taylor, Zachary (1849-1850), Truman, Harry S. (1945-1953), Tyler, John (1841-1845), Van Buren, Martin (1837-1841), Washington, George (1789-1797), Wilson, Woodrow (1913-1921) and some mj (not pictured)

just to make sure I'm covered in all contingencies.

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Matthew

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 5:13 pm

I recommend that everyone perform headset maintenance on Friday. Specifically they should verify that their crown race is installed.

Chip McShoulder

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 6:04 pm

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I would suggest checking all your fuses ahead of time also.

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the dreaded ben

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 6:11 pm

Grumpy Greeb Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 5329 Location: flavor country

axel wrote:

J_Dada wrote:

Quote:

we can't stop here, this is Ben Country.

like.

laura

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:58 pm

Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 1050 Location: wherever the dance party is

Rogelio wrote:

Really? Because we'd had one batch of slightly too strong cookies knock out most of the camp for an afternoon.

zing!

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caustic meatloaf

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 8:22 pm

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Chip McShoulder wrote:

I would suggest checking all your fuses ahead of time also.

you should also check yourself, lest you wriggity wreck yourself.

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Andrew_Squirrel

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 9:45 pm

Joined: 01 Mar 2010 Posts: 2098 Location: Greenwood

did a test run today, I just need a few extra things and I should be fully prepared!

limpyweta

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 10:30 pm

Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 740 Location: North Beach

someone may use this. 3 years ago it was tested for a whopping 4 miles with a bunch of textbooks in it before I thought it was too impractical for taking on and off loaded. may be fine for this. maybe. maybe stick a cutting board in the back or something

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tehschkott

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:36 pm

daywalker Joined: 09 Nov 2007 Posts: 6108 Location: Hatertown

Rogelio wrote:

.83 First Aid Kit:

- Red Bandanna x2
- Pocket Knife
- Joby Proof Clear Alcohol
- Nitrile gloves (preferably, clean of any chain lube)
- Zipties

This is the only first aid kit we need.

Says the guy who has been first-responder for something like the last 6 major .83 events. Trust me.

Remember Ally? She'd sit up and her forehead would lay on her nose.

I was pulling blood soaked bits out of my messenger bag for weeks.

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tehschkott

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:39 pm

daywalker Joined: 09 Nov 2007 Posts: 6108 Location: Hatertown

Alex wrote:

henry wrote:

Can someone please post a checklist for those of us who are driving?

I might rent a car just to beat the hell out of it.

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Rogelio

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 8:25 am

Joined: 31 Jul 2007 Posts: 3092 Location: Pos, aya, por la Corona-Alta-Madera y que no.

tehschkott wrote:

This is the only first aid kit we need.

Says the guy who has been first-responder for something like the last 6 major .83 events. Trust me.

Oh, and super-glue.

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tehschkott

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 8:29 am

daywalker Joined: 09 Nov 2007 Posts: 6108 Location: Hatertown

srsly. I'm pretty sure I coulda put humpy dumpty back together again if I'd had enough super glue. lol

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Bo Ttorff

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 8:30 am

GO SEAHAWKS!! 12 for LYFE Joined: 20 Jul 2011 Posts: 3092 Location: King County

Is gawking at each others set ups a BC tradition?

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