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Matthew
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:25 am Reply with quote
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Alex wrote:
The only practical solution is to buy a torch, a pile of steel, and make your own racks. You have 10 days. It worked for me on BC2.


This thread is officially closed... We have a winner.
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:26 am Reply with quote
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Windsphere wrote:
My tents just arrived today after much research, I picked up:

MSR Hubba Hubba 2 Person Tent, http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___28485

MSR Hubba 1 Person Tent, http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___28483

MSR Gear Shed - Hubba or Hubba Hubba Vestibule http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___28489

The Vestibule will work on both the one person and two person tent. This is last years model that is green (great for stealth camping) and is on sale. This years model is red and white.

I am shopping for a sleeping bag also. Russel recommended the Wiggys FTRSS (Flexible Temperature Range Sleep System. http://wiggys.com/category.cfm?Category=6. I was looking at a similar British military system. Wiggys seems better. It comes with two bags with different temperature ratings that can be zipped together for a warmer cold weather bag.
I watch a few youtube reviews and it seems like what I am looking for. I am interested in other recommendations.

My bike will not be ready for this trip. I did find a touring rack that I like http://www.bicyclinglife.com/HowTo/HeavyDutyRacks.htm


I've got the Hubba Hubba and it's a great 2 person tent, a LEGIT 2 person tent, with a decently sized vestibule on each side. Scored it at the REI bargain basement for $40. That and my trekking poles have taught me to ALWAYS GO TO THE BASEMENT TO FIND DEALS.

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Matthew
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:42 am Reply with quote
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blasdelf wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Ben, what was the plan for the return trip? Ride back the way we came? Because we're like this close to Bon Jon Pass via NF-28 to Quilicene, which I hear is the bee's knees on a bike that likes gravel.


Yep I was thinking about doing that if the mood strikes me


Here's the annotated route I think I will do. Up and over Bon Jon, down to Quilcene for resupply, through BC7's easy logging doubletrack, back home through Poulsbo and Bainbridge. Anyone who wants to bag Bon Jon Pass, please join me.
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:01 pm Reply with quote
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if I don't get shot down in a blaze of glory, I'm down for Jon Bon Jovi pass hunting.

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Jessica
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:02 pm Reply with quote
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MohawkMike wrote:
Jessica wrote:
New People: I have some bucket panniers you can have to carry all of your pool noodles/ammo/fuck yeah saws

A quick image search for "bucket panniers" yielded this sweet picture of alex:



I am totally down for the use of these bucket panniers. I've actually been looking to make some for a while now but haven't because I'm lazy.


PM'd you if you're still interested

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the dreaded ben
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:12 pm Reply with quote
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Matthew wrote:
blasdelf wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Ben, what was the plan for the return trip? Ride back the way we came? Because we're like this close to Bon Jon Pass via NF-28 to Quilicene, which I hear is the bee's knees on a bike that likes gravel.


Yep I was thinking about doing that if the mood strikes me


Here's the annotated route I think I will do. Up and over Bon Jon, down to Quilcene for resupply, through BC7's easy logging doubletrack, back home through Poulsbo and Bainbridge. Anyone who wants to bag Bon Jon Pass, please join me.


Here's an alternate route to the alternate, but this alternate climbs and alternate pass that's 1000 feet less alternate climbing.
also, snow pass is a great road...
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the dreaded ben
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:17 pm Reply with quote
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the dreaded ben wrote:

Here's an alternate route to the alternate, but this alternate climbs and alternate pass that's 1000 feet less alternate climbing.
also, snow pass is a great road...

Also, FYI, this route is only 7 miles longer, and 200 ft more of climbing than the out and back route.
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ethan
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:19 pm Reply with quote
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SO excite.
Have done a good bit of hiking/biking/camping in that general area ... never have stayed at that campground but have been meaning to, cause it is pretty awesome!
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Matthew
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:36 pm Reply with quote
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the dreaded ben wrote:
Here's an alternate route to the alternate, but this alternate climbs and alternate pass that's 1000 feet less alternate climbing.
also, snow pass is a great road...


This alternate route to the alternate route however does not slay Jon Bon Jovi pass in an epic guitar solo of gravel road.
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bigbielawski
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:39 pm Reply with quote
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rza wrote:
Hey, could someone please donate $600K to my employer so we can cancel our fundraiser and I can attend this ride and make everyone mint juleps and wear a big hat?


I could pledge $600K now, and then when they come asking for the money, I can escape to become a missionary, licking toads all day.

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Dravis Bixel
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:06 pm Reply with quote
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the dreaded ben wrote:
Also, FYI, this route is only 7 miles longer, and 200 ft more of climbing than the out and back route.


Does it still have a shitty burger joint on the way home?

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Douglas
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:51 pm Reply with quote
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J_Dada wrote:


Would you recommend some other type of tent/material that doesn't require a footprint? What is the tradeoff?

I'm aiming to buy everything from REI so if something doesn't work out as expected I can exchange it when I get back from BC and be better prepared for the next outing.


A camping hammock.

Or, a regular hammock with a winter bag, sleeping pad for under insulation, and a tarp with several feet of parachute cord.

Planning for this, but my track record for attendance has been shoddy at best.

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TorreyK
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:47 am Reply with quote
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1.) sounds like a good ride, i'll meet y'all at the edmonds ferry dock

2.) just get A footprint, homemade or otherwise. saving one's tent from pitch/sap is the most common benefit that I've personally encountered.

3.) New folks, eat a good breakfast. Pack snacks and think early about what you're going to bring/buy for dinner. Far too many times I've gone shopping mid-ride, and ended up at camp with a bag full of cookies and some hot dogs. This is all well and good until you wake up the next morning and need to ride home (nutrition required). I'm now trying to only buy snacks/beers mid ride, and bring a latched plastic container full of legit dinner food and grill-ables. Said container also works well to pack out messier snack wrappers.

People always talk about tents, bags, tires, stoves, but food is just as big a part of S24O light-weighting.

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caustic meatloaf
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:15 am Reply with quote
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I would recommend calorically dense foods, like cheese or bacon. Someone will likely have a stove you can trade bacon for usage of, or there will be a fire that you can stick a couple rocks in to cook bacon on.

BACON.

And Ben, check your email! I EMAILED YOU BRO

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joeball
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:14 am Reply with quote
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TorreyK wrote:

2.) just get A footprint, homemade or otherwise. saving one's tent from pitch/sap is the most common benefit that I've personally encountered.


Think of the footprint as socks, or underwear, or sheets. Personal preference, but I use them.

3.) New folks, eat a good breakfast. Pack snacks and think early about what you're going to bring/buy for dinner. Far too many times I've gone shopping mid-ride, and ended up at camp with a bag full of cookies and some hot dogs. This is all well and good until you wake up the next morning and need to ride home (nutrition required). I'm now trying to only buy snacks/beers mid ride, and bring a latched plastic container full of legit dinner food and grill-ables. Said container also works well to pack out messier snack wrappers.

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Truth. Our mid ride shopping options are pretty slim this year. If you want fresh things (meat/veggies/fruit) best to bring them or buy at the start.
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Matthew
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:15 am Reply with quote
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The Albertson's at the intersection of WA-104 and Hansville Rd just outside Edmonds is actually pretty good. You should be able to get anything you're looking for there in case you're pinched for time in the morning. The convenience store at Blyn... not so much. You'll find booze, salty snacks, and not much else.

I'll second the "eat a real breakfast" comment. Not just from the "you need the calories" side of things, but a "there's a pit toilet, and it might not be opened" side of things. Eating three Sausage McGrenades or 7-11 roller food might not be the wisest thing you could do.
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"Sausage Mcgrenades"

I lol'd

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the dreaded ben
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:14 pm Reply with quote
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Dravis Bixel wrote:
the dreaded ben wrote:
Also, FYI, this route is only 7 miles longer, and 200 ft more of climbing than the out and back route.


Does it still have a shitty burger joint on the way home?

a different shitty burger joint.
there's a couple in quilcene.
I suggest the road house just south of town.
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the dreaded ben
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:15 pm Reply with quote
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TorreyK wrote:

3.) New folks, eat a good breakfast. Pack snacks and think early about what you're going to bring/buy for dinner. Far too many times I've gone shopping mid-ride, and ended up at camp with a bag full of cookies and some hot dogs. This is all well and good until you wake up the next morning and need to ride home (nutrition required). I'm now trying to only buy snacks/beers mid ride, and bring a latched plastic container full of legit dinner food and grill-ables. Said container also works well to pack out messier snack wrappers.

People always talk about tents, bags, tires, stoves, but food is just as big a part of S24O light-weighting.


THIS.
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the dreaded ben
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:18 pm Reply with quote
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Also, I forgot to mention.
this campground doesn't have any amenities.
if russ can pick the locks, and someone brings TP, we'll atleast have pit toilets...
but yeah, we'll be pumping our water, and carrying out all garbage.
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axel wrote:


Ahh, the trickle-down theory of self care.
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In

Packing list:

Tarp
Wool blanket
Rope
Knife
1 large steak
1 small steak (breakfast)
1/5th of whiskey

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rob
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the dreaded ben wrote:
Also, I forgot to mention.
this campground doesn't have any amenities.
if russ can pick the locks, and someone brings TP, we'll atleast have pit toilets...
but yeah, we'll be pumping our water, and carrying out all garbage.


The google image search for 'pooping in the woods' is priceless. I won't post any, because this is a family website.
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rob
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No posts in over 48 hours? How are we ever going to get to page 10?
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Rogelio
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Well, I spent the weekend gardening... mostly because my bike parts didn't come in the mail.

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rob
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Rogelio wrote:
Well, I spent the weekend gardening... mostly because my bike parts didn't come in the mail.


Ooh, right, bike parts. Do I install a new bottom bracket before Saturday or not? Decisions, decisions...
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:32 am Reply with quote
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We need to get a betting pool on who is going to have the most fantastic mechanical for the trip.


Year before last I had a broken spoke on the Hood Canal bridge, and I think the year before that someone's crank broke. WHAT WILL HAPPEN THIS YEAR?

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Your Monday Mission Ben Country Prep:T-minus 5 days
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rob wrote:
Ooh, right, bike parts. Do I install a new bottom bracket before Saturday or not? Decisions, decisions...
Dude, I'm building out a whole new bike; I took a break and laced the wheels in my solarium yesterday.

I should probably install a new bottom bracket as there's nothing in the shell right now.

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I got my bike tuned up last week and now its acting up, making all kinds of noises. I guess it got tuned down, need to work on it.

Also, can someone suggest any good sleeping pad, sleeping bag and tent that won't blow a hole in my pocket? Do I really need a tent? I hear a lot of people are carrying 2 person ones :P
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joeball wrote:



lol shit-camel! Sounds like a name someone should sock puppet on Cascade forums.
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altercator wrote:
I got my bike tuned up last week and now its acting up, making all kinds of noises. I guess it got tuned down, need to work on it.


Which shop did the tune up? Take it back and have them take another look. Ask what the issue was/is so that you can learn from the experience an gradually be able to do more things yourself.


altercator wrote:
Also, can someone suggest any good sleeping pad, sleeping bag and tent that won't blow a hole in my pocket? Do I really need a tent? I hear a lot of people are carrying 2 person ones :P


Budget? There is pretty much an order of magnitude from cheapest to high end for these items.
Sleeping Bags can run $40-$400
Sleeping Pads $10-$100
Tents $50-$500
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caustic meatloaf wrote:
We need to get a betting pool on who is going to have the most fantastic mechanical for the trip.


Your Suggested BC9 Prop Bets:

Matthew is unable to make it to the campsite due to mechanical
YES 5/2 NO 2/1

Number of times Nick and Katie's tandem gets a flat
OVER/UNDER 2

Number of .83-ers that bail mid-ride and end up being driven to the campsite
OVER/UNDER 9

Number of spare tubes used during the weekend
OVER/UNDER 6

Number of miles before first mechanical
OVER/UNDER 2

Number of miles before second mechanical
OVER/UNDER 9.5

Fred's BAC by the time he gets to camp
OVER/UNDER 0.15%

add your own below.

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axel wrote:
add your own below.


First blood: specify mile 0-60

Total beers comsumed: Over/under 300

Bottles of whiskey consumed: Over/under 4

Total burgers consumed: Over/under 58

Number of times "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling" is sung (drunkenly, around a campfire): Over/under 3

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axel wrote:
Number of miles before first mechanical
OVER/UNDER 2

Will mechanicals on the way to the meeting location count, or only if the person calls in and makes us wait? Assuming they count (because they should), I will take the under.
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Dravis Bixel wrote:
Number of times "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling" is sung (drunkenly, around a campfire): Over/under 3


definitely taking the over on this.

bigbielawski wrote:
axel wrote:
Number of miles before first mechanical
OVER/UNDER 2

Will mechanicals on the way to the meeting location count, or only if the person calls in and makes us wait? Assuming they count (because they should), I will take the under.


heh - the intent was for this to count mechanicals that occur after the start. last year, if you took the under on this you would have won big.

going one further, do a prop bet for how long the actual start is delayed by waiting for those people to fix their mechanicals they got en-route.
OVER/UNDER 21.5 minutes

also, number of people that miss the ferry with the rest of the group due to mechanicals.
OVER/UNDER 1.5

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Charcharodon Megladon wrote:
lol shit-camel! Sounds like a name someone should sock puppet on Cascade forums.


Sock puppets usually work best when you don't name them after yourself.

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TorreyK
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I had some leftover public transportation vouchers, so I redeemed them for mid-sound (Kingston) ferry 10-use passes. The benefit is that, buying the passes waves the $1 bicycle fee and in bulk, the cost per ticket drops to about $6.30 per trip. Unlike monthly passes, they can be used for multiple people on a single sailing. This is a note for future FHR's and group ferry outings.

TL;DR the first 30 people in line with me get on the ferry free of charge.

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TorreyK wrote:
I had some leftover public transportation vouchers, so I redeemed them for mid-sound (Kingston) ferry 10-use passes. The benefit is that, buying the passes waves the $1 bicycle fee and in bulk, the cost per ticket drops to about $6.30 per trip. Unlike monthly passes, they can be used for multiple people on a single sailing. This is a note for future FHR's and group ferry outings.

TL;DR the first 30 people in line with me get on the ferry free of charge.

you are a man of the highest caliber, torrey.
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