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Can someone please post a link to the map of the firepits in Seattle?
axel
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:03 pm
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as I recall the collective opinion decided that was a bad idea.
#dontblowupthespot
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Dan
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:50 pm
Shut UpJoined: 03 Aug 2014Posts: 566Location: Beacon Hill
Bummer. Can we make an invite only one?
blasdelf
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:53 pm
BAD NAVIGATORJoined: 01 Mar 2010Posts: 1505
not everything has to be documented and quantified
you've seen some firepits, and you'll ride to some more
it's nice to maintain a sense of mystery and plausible deniability
work to further that, maybe you can even find a new place to burn
TooTall
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:31 am
Joined: 29 Aug 2014Posts: 690
blasdelf wrote:
not everything has to be documented and quantified
you've seen some firepits, and you'll ride to some more
it's nice to maintain a sense of mystery and plausible deniability
work to further that, maybe you can even find a new place to burn
How to find a new fire spot:
1. Go on a bicycle ride.
2. Get a little lost.
3. Get a little loster.
4. Stumble upon something great.
5. Tell stories about this great spot and lead a ride there.
6. Did you lead the ride there?
7. Did some OG's say they'd been there before? No? There you go!
BOOGER TOMJoined: 17 Jan 2013Posts: 594Location: Beacon Hill
I noticed they moved the Golden Gardens fire pits north a bit. Someone update the map!
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Dravis Bixel
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:41 pm
Joined: 14 Mar 2011Posts: 982Location: Wherever you go, there you are
Dan, here is the map. I think #dontblowupthespot can #shutthefuckup. That is the whole point of having a routes forum. This would be like someone asking for good bike camping spots and having people say "don't tell them because other people will go there." And seriously, who the hell is looking here besides us? We could make this map the background for the whole website and no one else would notice. It is a ludicrous idea and I hope that I never hear about it again.
re-edit to show a cat with fire spot locations.
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jeff
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:52 pm
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Dravis Bixel wrote:
And seriously, who the hell is looking here besides us?
I've been told by at least two separate local transportation reporters/writers "I lurk the forum to see what's going on ..."
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Windsphere
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:57 pm
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I was wondering if the map was actually going to show up again. I am just missing the Google map link for it. Just spotted one missing spot. I think if you just change the graphic and called it the hearth map then it will be more cryptic.
TooTall
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:58 pm
Joined: 29 Aug 2014Posts: 690
"I pop by that forum once in the bluest moon to see what’s going on."
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jeff wrote:
Dravis Bixel wrote:
And seriously, who the hell is looking here besides us?
I've been told by at least two separate local transportation reporters/writers "I lurk the forum to see what's going on ..."
And they do what with that? Go hang out at those spots we mention? Who cares.
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jeff
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:32 pm
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Dravis Bixel wrote:
jeff wrote:
Dravis Bixel wrote:
And seriously, who the hell is looking here besides us?
I've been told by at least two separate local transportation reporters/writers "I lurk the forum to see what's going on ..."
And they do what with that? Go hang out at those spots we mention? Who cares.
I don't care either way, just pointing out that plenty of people lurk here.
joeball
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:44 pm
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Bro, do you even tribal knowledge?
Dravis Bixel
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:32 pm
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joeball wrote:
Bro, do you even tribal knowledge?
The tribal knowledge is what happens on the ride, not where the destination is. These spots aren't fun to go to because they are some secret location. They are fun because we go there together and have a great time. Who cares if people know we have fires are Carkeek or Seward. It means absolutely nothing unless they are out on the ride.
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joeball
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:34 pm
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Ask the Fremont Art Community how that worked out for them.
fourfingersdown
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:17 pm
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Dravis Bixel wrote:
joeball wrote:
Bro, do you even tribal knowledge?
The tribal knowledge is what happens on the ride, not where the destination is. These spots aren't fun to go to because they are some secret location. They are fun because we go there together and have a great time. Who cares if people know we have fires are Carkeek or Seward. It means absolutely nothing unless they are out on the ride.
This isn't Africa or Thailand Matt, there are rules.
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Bo Ttorff
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:34 pm
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FIRETITS ARE SERIOUS BUSINESS!!1!
Dravis Bixel
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:47 am
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joeball wrote:
Ask the Fremont Art Community how that worked out for them.
Did they post a map online telling people where the Freemont Firepit was? I am sure that is what got them shut down. The city cracks down hard on cartography.
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blasdelf
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:19 am
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Dravis Bixel wrote:
These spots aren't fun to go to because they are some secret location.
Dan re-started this thread PRECISELY because I'd taken the ride to a 'secret' location that he didn't know existed, and was delighted by the experience
But asking for a map of illicit locations misses the point: you're not just potentially blowing up the spot, you're also spoiling your own first time
Dravis Bixel
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:14 pm
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blasdelf wrote:
Dan re-started this thread PRECISELY because I'd taken the ride to a 'secret' location that he didn't know existed, and was delighted by the experience
But asking for a map of illicit locations misses the point: you're not just potentially blowing up the spot, you're also spoiling your own first time
That doesn't make any sense. It is like saying "I looked at a map of Africa and it ruined my experience of being there." The joy is going to a place. The map means nothing unless you have already been there.
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Rogelio
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:39 pm
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Yeah, but if everyone goes to the Africa and some inconsiderate people start doing stupid shit like rounding up the locals and putting them up for sale or trying to teach them the good word of the lord and savior white Jesus, it kinda ruins it for the other people who just like to go hang out there from time to time.
We can't control who goes there and does things, but we can limit the exposure for rando's specifically searching for places to go do stupid things.
Please see: the dumpster diving locale map.
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blasdelf
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:39 pm
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Dravis Bixel wrote:
you bless those rains
Bo Ttorff
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:02 pm
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#dontblowupthespot is my #twocents
Bo Ttorff
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:33 pm
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while we're posting maps can someone posts exactly where everyone has been catching salmon in Puget sound? I keep asking the guys at the dock but for some reason they're real tight lipped about the good spots.
TooTall
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:56 pm
Joined: 29 Aug 2014Posts: 690
Bo Ttorff wrote:
while we're posting maps can someone posts exactly where everyone has been catching salmon in Puget sound? I keep asking the guys at the dock but for some reason they're real tight lipped about the good spots.
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Rogelio wrote:
We can't control who goes there and does things, but we can limit the exposure for rando's specifically searching for places to go do stupid things.
Please see: the dumpster diving locale map.
This is like razor blades in apples guys. You are afraid of something that has never happened and isn't going to happen. We could put that same map up on Reddit and it wouldn't matter. Just think about it, how many times have you gone to Dick Picks Park or Anarchy Point without Point83? Are you thinking of never? The answer is never. Even though you know where those places are you don't go because it wouldn't be fun without friends around. Who has a fire at Frink alone? So you need a group of people, and getting that together isn't easy. There are just not that many groups like us. Especially not with our regularity. Someone have a fire at Carkeek or Seward when we aren't around really isn't a big deal.
Now lets say some rando finds the map, so what? What do you think will happen? A kid throws a kegger somewhere? Big whoop. That already happens. We know we aren't the only ones going to these places. Each one is already a hobo camp, or a gay cruising spot (no judgement), or a public park. (Sometimes all three.) And what is the city going to do about it? How about nothing. It isn't like they are going to put up fences in the woods or hire armed guards.
If you really want to keep coming back to these places your time may be better spent picking up after yourself than freaking out that someone is going to "discover" one of these places.
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Dan
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:37 pm
Shut UpJoined: 03 Aug 2014Posts: 566Location: Beacon Hill
Quote:
Dan re-started this thread PRECISELY because I'd taken the ride to a 'secret' location that he didn't know existed, and was delighted by the experience
Not exactly. I asked because people look to me for ideas on where to lead Tuesday rides and I'd rather not go to the same couple of places every time.
derrickito
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:49 pm
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Dravis Bixel wrote:
This is like razor blades in apples guys. You are afraid of something that has never happened and isn't going to happen.
it has happened. andre gave a great example. because of the explosion of popularity of a certain spot, it got noticed and shut down. trying not to have that happen again.
blasdelf
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:12 pm
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Golden Gardens has always been full of bros but in the last couple years it's gotten unusable
and in that time we've more frequently found people already burning at Carkeek when we get there
axel
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:38 pm
Joined: 15 Feb 2013Posts: 1654Location: St Johns PDX
Dravis Bixel wrote:
blasdelf wrote:
Dan re-started this thread PRECISELY because I'd taken the ride to a 'secret' location that he didn't know existed, and was delighted by the experience
But asking for a map of illicit locations misses the point: you're not just potentially blowing up the spot, you're also spoiling your own first time
That doesn't make any sense.
it's actually the thing that makes the most sense so far in this thread.
ran out of popcorn several posts ago.
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caustic meatloaf
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:06 am
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axel wrote:
Dravis Bixel wrote:
blasdelf wrote:
Dan re-started this thread PRECISELY because I'd taken the ride to a 'secret' location that he didn't know existed, and was delighted by the experience
But asking for a map of illicit locations misses the point: you're not just potentially blowing up the spot, you're also spoiling your own first time
That doesn't make any sense.
it's actually the thing that makes the most sense so far in this thread.
ran out of popcorn several posts ago.
It's true, everyone knows that your first time should be completely unanticipated, and possibly not consensual.
FOR FIRE PIT RIDES YOU SICKOS.
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fourfingersdown
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:01 pm
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caustic meatloaf wrote:
It's true, everyone knows that your first time should be completely unanticipated, and possibly not consensual.
FOR FIRE PIT RIDES YOU SICKOS.
The jokes write themselves.
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TorreyK
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 3:52 pm
Joined: 02 Sep 2009Posts: 1116Location: White Center/Burien
North Seatac Park (where today's Cross Revolution race was held) has a nice fire pit nestled against a big grassy hill on the edge of the football field. It is currently stocked with a couple hundred pounds worth of 6-8" diameter rounds which are a result of some nearby tree clearing.
Just saying, we're ridden further south before.
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derrickito
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:42 am
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we haven't taken the train in quite a long time (so long i've blacked out those memories :) ). we've done that a couple times i think, training down, fooling around in the south end, then biking back.
Bo Ttorff
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:55 am
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derrickito wrote:
we haven't taken the train in quite a long time (so long i've blacked out those memories :) ). we've done that a couple times i think, training down, fooling around in the south end, then biking back.
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Nurse Justin
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:52 pm
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Dravis Bixel wrote:
Just think about it, how many times have you gone to Dick Picks Park or Anarchy Point without Point83? Are you thinking of never? The answer is never. Even though you know where those places are you don't go because it wouldn't be fun without friends around. Who has a fire at Frink alone? So you need a group of people, and getting that together isn't easy. There are just not that many groups like us. Especially not with our regularity. Someone have a fire at Carkeek or Seward when we aren't around really isn't a big deal.
I have had fires at some of these places with out point83. I burned a christmas tree and pallets with a buddy at anarchy point before I'd met y'all. Published maps of these sorts will be found and will be used.
Or published in the stranger like this.
On a different note I would like to take the train! [/url]
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