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Dravis Bixel
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:44 am Reply with quote
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What are some good rims for touring? I am looking for 26" rims with 32 holes. Any recommendations? Looking for that center Venn diagram of durability, weight, and price.

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Alex
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Dravis Bixel wrote:
What are some good rims for touring? I am looking for 26" rims with 32 holes. Any recommendations? Looking for that center Venn diagram of durability, weight, and price.


Sun CR18 or Rhyno Lite. Same rim, just 23mm outside width or 27mm outside width.

They are about 30-50% of the price of anything else. The design hasn't changed for 20+ years. They last forever. They are a little chunky, but not too bad.
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jimmythefly
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Alex Adventurer has also been good to me.
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If you can find them I have a boner for Mavic X517.
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Dravis Bixel
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While we are at it, do you guys have good rear hub recommendations?

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Alex
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Steel axle Shimano hubs. I think that means SLX is good, XT is bad, but I haven't paid attention to the most current offerings.

They are very well sealed and quite durable and dirt cheap compared to anything else half as good.
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Andrew_Squirrel
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:58 pm Reply with quote
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Would ball and cone be preferred for ease of rebuilding in far off lands?
I'm assuming if any issues came up it would be easier to buy another 26" wheel instead of trying to fix the broken one.


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blasdelf
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Alex wrote:
Steel axle Shimano hubs. I think that means SLX is good, XT is bad, but I haven't paid attention to the most current offerings.

They are very well sealed and quite durable and dirt cheap compared to anything else half as good.


Shimano's aluminum axle problem was just on their first batch of non-disc XT hubs with them years ago, they were too thin at a thread root and mostly came stock on Long Haul Truckers

but the freehub bodies still get fucked up same as it ever was
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blasdelf
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:04 pm Reply with quote
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The most important question for your rim selection is whether you're using rim brakes

if so the Ryde/Rigida Andra series are the baddest motherfuckers around

if you're using disc brakes, get modern rims for them without a brake track and get a waaaay better strength/weight/price ratio
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the dreaded ben
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jimmythefly wrote:
Alex Adventurer has also been good to me.

+1
no question about it.
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the dreaded ben
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blasdelf wrote:
The most important question for your rim selection is whether you're using rim brakes

if so the Ryde/Rigida Andra series are the baddest motherfuckers around

if you're using disc brakes, get modern rims for them without a brake track and get a waaaay better strength/weight/price ratio


this.
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Alex
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:02 pm Reply with quote
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Yup, disk rims are good. I assumed rim brakes in my CR18 recommendation (which I stand by). CR18s do run slightly porky compared to their specs, I just measured a fairly recent 700C CR18 at 520 grams, where Sun-Ringle claims it is 460 grams. In comparison my Velocity rims (I measured an A23 and a 700C synergy) are coming in slightly under their spec'd weight.

Now if only they would make 700C disk rims in 36 hole, or lightweight e-bike hubs in 32 hole. Sometimes I think I'm a market of one. My disk brake e-bike has a CR18 up front because that is about the only decent 36 hole rim being made anymore and e-bike hubs come in 36 hole, not 32 hole.
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blasdelf
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The Stan's Flow has always been available in 36h for 29" and the newer burlier Flow EX model is plenty stiff+strong

Velocity offers everything in 36h even their aero road disc rim, and some of the MTB models even come in re-enactment 40h. Of course their metallurgy actually benefits from the extra spokes unlike their competition, but that solves your problem and a Blunt SS definitely beats a CR18 even if it's way more expensive

Though if you're going to spend real money on a rim, Chinese Carbon can be ordered in whatever drilling you want, pjdiddy got his 36h
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joeball
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:28 am Reply with quote
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650b
32h
silver
rim brake
no velocity synergy

recomendations, go!
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jimmythefly
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:25 am Reply with quote
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Erm, Velo Orange? Shit I have no idea.

http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/wheelsets-rims-hubs/rims/vo-diagonale-650b-rims.html

Looks like Soma makes one too, news to me.
http://store.somafab.com/sowerim65.html

540g




Hmmm, the soma and the V-O look like the exact same rim, though the ERD is different by 4.2mm

Also there is something called the Velocity Atlas, but I would be extremely hesitant to try it until reports come back from other users.
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joeball
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:08 pm Reply with quote
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Velocity said they would warranty my synergy. They gave the option of another synergy, an a23, or the atlas. Not sure which to go with.
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Andrew_Squirrel
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:42 pm Reply with quote
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Not sure if they discontinued the SL23 in 650b or they are just moving over to the new, slightly more tubeless friendly extrusion (like they did on the SL23 in 700c see: http://www.bikerumor.com/2015/04/24/pacenti-cycle-design-updates-sl23-road-rim/).

If you don't want to wait for the new version looks like a few vendors still have the silver version in stock.
http://www.longleafbicycles.com/products/pacenti-sl23-650b-rim
sorry, the price is quite high

I really like them on the Elephant FWIW
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rory
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joeball wrote:
Velocity said they would warranty my synergy. They gave the option of another synergy, an a23, or the atlas. Not sure which to go with.


the synergy's were problem childs for some. I've ridden a few into the ground, and had one that had the eyelet cracking. I currently have a set of the atlas' and the a23s. i like the a23s because they have a shelf for seating the tires easier . the atlas doesn't have this, unfortunately. that said, i haven't had much issue seating the atlas, and it is a beefier rim. all being said, i'd rather go with the a23.
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joeball
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:57 pm Reply with quote
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Yeah, was thinking about the a23 but ended up asking for a replacement synergy so I have a spare and my wheel set is still matchey matchey. I'll go for another rim type for the next wheel set.
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