Any thoughts on other stuff that's good to include that's not mentioned in that article or might not be thought of?
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caustic meatloaf
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Before any bikepacking trip, I do a full tuneup on my bike, where I basically take every item off the frame, clean it thoroughly with Miracle Red, check my spokes and bearings, and completely re-assemble it clean.
That right there will take out the need for wrenches and that kind of shit.
All I pack for repairs is a tube, a couple levers, and a pump.
Before any bikepacking trip, I do a full tuneup on my bike, where I basically take every item off the frame, clean it thoroughly with Miracle Red, check my spokes and bearings, and completely re-assemble it clean.
Best to do this the night before a trip at 1am so it all is as fresh as possible.
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caustic meatloaf wrote:
Before any bikepacking trip, I do a full tuneup on my bike, where I basically take every item off the frame, clean it thoroughly with Miracle Red, check my spokes and bearings, and completely re-assemble it clean.
this is pants-on-head retarded, you're much more likely to fuck up the re-assembly
don't start a big trip on a bike that hasn't been ridden equally hard in its current form
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:46 am
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garywashere wrote:
Any thoughts on other stuff that's good to include that's not mentioned in that article or might not be thought of?
some people carry a spare cleat bolt
a really big one is replacement brake and shift cables
this fuckin guy packs useless housing ferrules and cable crimps but not the functional part they require?
the cone wrenches, replacement loctite, and shop lockring wrench are also ridiculous
Andrew_Squirrel
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:47 am
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That's a pretty good list, mine is fairly similar minus many of their items.
Additionally I typically carry these items for unsupported rides far away:
- Disposable rubber gloves
- Spare hardware for clipless cleat plates
- A foot of shock cord
- Strip of Gorilla tape
- About 10x more zip-ties of various sizes
- 1 extra of shift cable, brake cable & straddle cable (for cantilevers)
- Couple safety pins & a paper clip.
I also carry this baby wrench which I use fairly often for working on my R+E Big Squeeze Cantilevers & front rack:
My Crank Bros multi-tool comes with a dual 8/10mm socket that slips on top of a allen key which is also useful for tightening my fender & front rack hardware. I'd say its highly likely the average cyclist would lose them immediately but I've managed to keep them around for a couple years now.
Instead of carrying a simple knife I picked up this bare-bones Skeletool which has needle nose pliers onboard but not much featuritis & redundancy with the crank bros tool.
I'm also a big fan of the P-38/P51 can openers. So small but they can open a can incredibly fast with a little practice. Weighs nothing but very valuable if you find yourself in a convenient mart in the middle of nowhere with mostly canned food.
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blasdelf wrote:
caustic meatloaf wrote:
Before any bikepacking trip, I do a full tuneup on my bike, where I basically take every item off the frame, clean it thoroughly with Miracle Red, check my spokes and bearings, and completely re-assemble it clean.
this is pants-on-head retarded, you're much more likely to fuck up the re-assembly
don't start a big trip on a bike that hasn't been ridden equally hard in its current form
DISAGREE. when I was actually riding and didn't have a car, I'd disassemble and reassemble my paramount every weekend.
I'd say that if you know your bike, you'll know what can go wrong with it, and prepare accordingly. regular inspection reduces breakage.
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blasdelf wrote:
garywashere wrote:
Any thoughts on other stuff that's good to include that's not mentioned in that article or might not be thought of?
some people carry a spare cleat bolt
a really big one is replacement brake and shift cables
this fuckin guy packs useless housing ferrules and cable crimps but not the functional part they require?
the cone wrenches, replacement loctite, and shop lockring wrench are also ridiculous
not just ferrules, but separate brake and shifter ferrules.
I didn't even know there was a difference, beyond how hard you have to squish.
Also, "A small pair of locking pliers like the Leatherman Crunch can replace all of your individual crescent wrenches."
what is maxthecyclist doing with all those crescents?
But there are some good gems in there.
PS: I never really tour.
Andrew_Squirrel
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:11 pm
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caustic meatloaf wrote:
I'd disassemble and reassemble my paramount every weekend.
Sounds like a great way to prematurely round out all of your bolts nuts and tool interface surfaces
bigbielawski
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:12 pm
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Instead of carrying a dollar, Park tools makes an adhesive tire boot that you can slap on. Paul taught me this on the way home from Ben Country last year!
After my ride last weekend, I will also be carrying spare cables for longer rides/trips.
caustic meatloaf
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Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
caustic meatloaf wrote:
I'd disassemble and reassemble my paramount every weekend.
Sounds like a great way to prematurely round out all of your bolts nuts and tool interface surfaces
Surprisingly, I never have! The parts I've had to replace due to wear:
1)Seapost (broke on a ride into work in '10)
2)Stem (broke on a ride into work same year)
3)Saddle (rails broke on a .83 ride '11)
4)Chainring bolts (stress cracks on all 5, had to replace them all '10)
5)One spoke, which broke when coming back from BC7 ('12?)
Most of those were in the first 10,000 miles of owning the bike. After I instituted my weekly inspection and cleaning, I never had another break. I originally laced up the cables in '09, and I'm still using the same set today.
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garywashere
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:27 pm
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Oh good call on the spare cables. Never would've thought about that.
I have a little ~4" long adjustable/crescent wrench that opens up to about 15mm but is nice and tiny. It's come in handy sometimes and is definitely less cumbersome than carrying around 4 wrenches
Also just ordered one of them kevlar spoke dealies today. What a world we live in
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caustic meatloaf wrote:
DISAGREE. when I was actually riding and didn't have a car, I'd disassemble and reassemble my paramount every weekend.
I'd say that if you know your bike, you'll know what can go wrong with it, and prepare accordingly. regular inspection reduces breakage.
That said, I hope no new riders see your post and think it is a good idea.
I'd disassemble and reassemble my paramount every weekend.
Sounds like a great way to prematurely round out all of your bolts nuts and tool interface surfaces
Surprisingly, I never have! The parts I've had to replace due to wear:
6) Bike wall mount in my house. Thing just went to shit from over use!
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caustic meatloaf
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jeff wrote:
caustic meatloaf wrote:
Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
caustic meatloaf wrote:
I'd disassemble and reassemble my paramount every weekend.
Sounds like a great way to prematurely round out all of your bolts nuts and tool interface surfaces
Surprisingly, I never have! The parts I've had to replace due to wear:
6) Bike wall mount in my house. Thing just went to shit from over use!
#FIFY
ha! all I had was a hook in the stairwell! BACK IN MY DAY, we didn't use "bike stands", we just flipped it upside down and went to town on that puppy!
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caustic meatloaf wrote:
DISAGREE. when I was actually riding and didn't have a car, I'd disassemble and reassemble my paramount every weekend.
Ah yes, the Joe-not-getting-laid years.
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Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
I also carry this baby wrench which I use fairly often for working on my R+E Big Squeeze Cantilevers & front rack:
the Park MT-1 gets you a bunch of cheap+light redundancy
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Those leatherman skeletools are on closeout at home depot sodo
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blasdelf wrote:
Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
I also carry this baby wrench which I use fairly often for working on my R+E Big Squeeze Cantilevers & front rack:
the Park MT-1 gets you a bunch of cheap+light redundancy
also happens to be one of the better shivs on the market
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my biggest, somewhat irrational fear is that my seatpost binder bolt will break (spontaneously or during adjustment) while on tour. i'm inclined to pack a spare just in case my nightmares ever come true. clydesdale concerns.
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TorreyK wrote:
my biggest, somewhat irrational fear is that my seatpost binder bolt will break (spontaneously or during adjustment) while on tour. i'm inclined to pack a spare just in case my nightmares ever come true. clydesdale concerns.
Which a 20mm(?) M6 or M5 and nut can replace in pinch. Speaking of I was actually chatting with show up joe about this on tuesday. Personally I have qyite a few unoccupied brazeons. I make a point to keep a couple of nut + bolts of various lengths installed there. Costs me "nothing", but I have a selection of M5/M6 nuts and bolts hand on every bike.
Edit: just atarted reading the thread. To echo earlier sentiment, some of this stuff is smart like carrying a multitool with chain breaker. Some, like "[breaking] into my hub bearings for some good old fashioned repacking", is just fucking nonsense.
Second edit: O.M.G. A spare single speed cog "to swap onto my Juice in the event I wear through my current cog in the middle of a longer trip." What kind of self indulgent velocisurvivalist fantasy is this. Please to show anywhere on a map where youre can ride a couple thousand miles to "wear through a cog" and not pass a shop or town with postal service to resupply. This entire fucking post is mastabatory bike mall ninja nonsense.
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Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
caustic meatloaf wrote:
I'd disassemble and reassemble my paramount every weekend.
Sounds like a great way to prematurely round out all of your bolts nuts and tool interface surfaces
No shit. It's not an Mini-14. It's not designed to be completely disassembled every... oh I see what you did there. You mean you disassembled your bike before every weekend ride, and you don't ride. No rides = no disassembly.
Shut up Joe.
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Bo Ttorff wrote:
Those leatherman skeletools are on closeout at home depot sodo
FYI They're not there today.
Andrew_Squirrel
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blasdelf wrote:
Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
I also carry this baby wrench which I use fairly often for working on my R+E Big Squeeze Cantilevers & front rack:
the Park MT-1 gets you a bunch of cheap+light redundancy
Oh yeah, I used to carry that one around but found the allen keys were sometimes just a hair too short to reach certain bolts. The box wrenches also sometimes had difficulty spinning because of the bits around the edge. It's a fantastic tool when its not bumping into adjacent bike parts.
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garywashere wrote:
Bo Ttorff wrote:
Those leatherman skeletools are on closeout at home depot sodo
FYI They're not there today.
Dang, must have sold them all. They were going for like 15 bucks
jimmythefly
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Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
blasdelf wrote:
Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
I also carry this baby wrench which I use fairly often for working on my R+E Big Squeeze Cantilevers & front rack:
the Park MT-1 gets you a bunch of cheap+light redundancy
Oh yeah, I used to carry that one around but found the allen keys were sometimes just a hair too short to reach certain bolts. The box wrenches also sometimes had difficulty spinning because of the bits around the edge. It's a fantastic tool when its not bumping into adjacent bike parts.
Seconded.
Maybe a nice tool to just leave zip-tied permanently to your bike somewhere for emergencies. Or if you are into minimalism.
But if you are consciously carrying tools and spares to fix things on your bike on any overnight tour, might as well bring something a bit less annoying to use in practice.
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Posted: Mon Feb 29, 2016 11:36 am
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Agree with Fred. Packing a lockring tool & cone wrenches but not a spare tube seems crazy. Sure you have plenty of patches, but what if your valve breaks?
Converting your drive train to a single speed is pretty easy with only a multi tool and some zip ties. I broke a shifter cable way out in the middle of Oregon and was able to put my bike on an easy gear for climbing:
Just tie a knot in the shift cable so it won't pass through the cable stop, then lock off the cable on an easy gear on the cassette. Use zip ties to bundle the excess cable. I rode 70 miles like this until I finally got to a bike shop in Sisters, OR.
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