Yakima is my home town so I figured I better ride in this first one and invite the club. I have a fancy new rack on my car and can haul 2 extra bikes. I'm going over Saturday afternoon and leaving Yakima on Sunday probably immediately after the ride and I've stretched and had a beer.
Reg deadline is this Friday, 15 Sep. Cost is $40, you'll have to call Bearded Monkey Cycling at 509-453-6699 and ask for Lance to sign up remotely. Have emergency contact info and credit card ready.
You'll want to grab a room for Saturday night since I'm staying in West Valley and my dad's house is perpetually under renovation.
Ride starts at 8am, I'm planning on taking all of those 8 hours to ride since I haven't ridden for shit this summer.
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:50 pm
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this looks awesome
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:01 pm
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Got the Zigzag going on that weekend, but this looks great.
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:35 pm
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This ride looks rad, bummer I'll be out of the state during it. But, just spent some time out there in Yakima riding around between sessions at Hop & Brew School last week and had a blast. Bale Breaker Brewing is an awesome spot out there amongst the hop fields and hosted us one night, definitely want to go back.
FYI - Very important to bring extra tubes and patches!! On my first day riding, tried taking some gravel roads en route to Bale Breaker and acquired about 20 sharp goat heads in my tires. Double flatted and impossible to patch that many holes. Stay on the pavement when you can and watch out for these little fuckers...
But, in a more serious note, how come tubeless is more resilient to flats? I would think it would be otherwise, so obviously I'm missing something.
Explain to us your current understanding of how tubeless works so we can fill in the gaps and seal the deal
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Andrew_Squirrel wrote:
caustic meatloaf wrote:
But, in a more serious note, how come tubeless is more resilient to flats? I would think it would be otherwise, so obviously I'm missing something.
Explain to us your current understanding of how tubeless works so we can fill in the gaps and seal the deal
well, I am assuming that you have, say, a bike tyre, and you glue the ever loving shit outta it to the rim, and seal the rim. BUT, if you get a puncture on that sucker, are you just taking use of the self-sealing capabilities of pliant rubber under pressure? I would assume that you need either a special kind of tire, or else you're filling up, as Brotorff said ,your tube with a lot of liquid sealer to coat the insides.
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:53 pm
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Tubeless tires don't use glue. You're thinking of tubulars.
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Tubeless specific tires and rims have special beads/rims that create a very strong seal when the tire is seated, the tire is then (or prior to seating) filled with sealant. The sealant busts out of any puncture or slash, sealing most of them. A catastrophic slash will require that you boot and tube the tire, but that's the worst case scenario. I've rolled over a ridiculous number of things that would have puncture-flatted a normal tire, and I only realize it at the end because I find the little sealant-jizz fountains that are all dried up and sealed.
Or go tubeless like most of have. Monica just rode 2600 miles down the Tour Divide - not a single flat.
Think on that.
Truth. Once I heard air coming out and thought "OH GOD PLEASE SEAL PLEASE SEAL PLEASE SEAL" and the tubeless gods looked down on me favorably and it sealed.
Super pro tubeless and will forever be grateful to Scott for showing me the light and the way.
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:52 pm
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Moira is on point. Joe, you're thinking tubulars. Not tubeless.
You need volume to make it work. 32's at minimum. Bigger if you can manage it. And as Jake pointed out, sealant in the tire splashing around is the secret. When you get a puncture, high pressure seeks low pressure, and the sealant fills the puncture.
Strictly speaking you don't *need* a dedicated tubeless tire and rim combo - I've made it work in a number of circumstances. But it's a lot more sturdy and a lot easier to set up if you do.
Here's a 5 minute video that show's it done from start to finish. It will answer all your questions.
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:03 am
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hmm. Well, I've been thinking of building a replacement touring ride for the Long Bomber, so tubeless is definitely on the table. If I end up moving further abroad, I'd like to have a bike that has fatty tires to handle the frost on roads and maybe a little bit of snow, but still be light enough that I can use it as a semi-daily driver if need be.
My flat last night further solidified my love of tubeless.
Drain
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:46 am
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Trip Report:
Drove home Saturday listening to the Sounders lose at Real Salt Lake. Went to bed early, got up at 6:20am and cooked breakfast at my dad's place for the first time in at least a decade. Got across town to Bale Breaker about 7:20am. Ride started at 8am sharp.
In my mind the ride took place in 3 parts:
1. Oh God! I hate riding on Hwy 24 this sucks I just want to get off this fucking highway asap let's get a train going and ride 30 mph fuuuuuuuu.
2. The Hanford Road Climb which climbs 1000 feet in 4 miles. I just geared down and let everyone pass me since I knew much better than to overexert on a hill like that. Especially after barely riding all summer.
3. Everything else was lower Yakima Valley rolling hills with the occasional Sunday morning tractor. Very chill except for a few car chasing dogs I had to threaten with death. Freshly harvested hops and apples as far as the eye can see.
It was sunny and cool with a high of about 70°F. I didn't wear sunscreen since it's Fall and I'm "tanner then I've ever been" after being fun-employed all summer. Still got toasted of course.
Around mile 70 I fell in with a married couple, Steve and Brenda (I think) and an older guy named Bill with an excellent goatee and moustache. I think they were all Yakima Basin Velo. The four of us were the rear guard and happy to take it easy. We heard from several volunteers at aid stations that everyone who rolled through before us was "totally dead" and "not having a good time" since they were all riding too fast to have fun.
At mile 80 there was a bug-out option to just ride straight back to the brewery, but I don't think a single person took it. I mean, you've already gone 80... what's 20 more?
The Bearded Monkey Cycling guys (organizers) are extremely .83 hippie material. They run the main bike shop in town and they all have long beards. It's good to see a similar (to us) type of rider in my hometown since it can be very squiddy over there. I'll probably reach out and invite them to ride with us if they are ever in town for a long weekend.
It was a great ride, and I thanked Lance personally as I left. They learned a lot during this event and I could already hear them talking about clearer signage and things they'd do different next year. An excellent end to summer.
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