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sekai
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:38 pm Reply with quote
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hey, joe, my coworker who built his st fixie at one of aaron's shop nights is having a problem. his toe cages hit his front wheel. there is apx 1/2 inch overlap. it is worse now due to the front fender. i thought he might be running long cranks, but they are 170's. thoughts?
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eternalignorance
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:41 pm Reply with quote
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sekai wrote:
hey, joe, my coworker who built his st fixie at one of aaron's shop nights is having a problem. his toe cages hit his front wheel. there is apx 1/2 inch overlap. it is worse now due to the front fender. i thought he might be running long cranks, but they are 170's. thoughts?


tell him track stands arent that cool anyways.
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joeball
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:47 pm Reply with quote
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sekai wrote:
hey, joe, my coworker who built his st fixie at one of aaron's shop nights is having a problem. his toe cages hit his front wheel. there is apx 1/2 inch overlap. it is worse now due to the front fender. i thought he might be running long cranks, but they are 170's. thoughts?


Well to loose that 1/2 an inch he'd need 160mm cranks. I run 170's with fenders and clipless pedals and I don't have a problem with toe overlap. I think running clipless may move his foot back and alleviate the problem.
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sekai
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:55 pm Reply with quote
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no track stands, ate shit, just mounting and turning the wheel at a stop light. due to $ clipless is not the best option. the head tube just has a steep? angle to it. he might need to try 160's
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lantius
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:00 pm Reply with quote
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he could also go with a smaller front wheel. henry can fill him in on the details.
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Aaron
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:05 pm Reply with quote
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sekai wrote:
no track stands, ate shit, just mounting and turning the wheel at a stop light. due to $ clipless is not the best option. the head tube just has a steep? angle to it. he might need to try 160's


On a bike with toe overlap, you just have to learn to deal with it. 160mm cranks are not available. Converting the bike to 650A or 650B wheels might solve the problem. It did on my Colnago and I use fenders .

The problem is the front center (bb to front axle dimension) is short. Most track bikes have toe-overlap and so do most road bikes. The only way to not get it is by a shallow head angle (changes handling) or a long top tube (changes fit). Terry bikes "solve" the problem with a small 24" front wheel.

Toe overlap is really only a problem if you make it one. Get used to it or get a different bike! If you bring the bike by my shop I can look at it and see if the small wheel trick will work.
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SeditiousCanary
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:09 pm Reply with quote
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Aaron wrote:
On a bike with toe overlap, you just have to learn to deal with it.

Recognize...

It's really the best way. Much like pedaling thru corners on a fixed gear, you just have to learn how to do it.
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sekai
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:10 pm Reply with quote
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thanks, he's just had several problems with this. i've got overlap and it's ok with me. we'll see what he wants to do.
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lantius
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:12 pm Reply with quote
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technically, you can make 160mm cranks from 180mm cranks using a hacksaw and a drill, if you really need them. saw off the end and re-drill and tap new holes further down the crankarm.
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joeball
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:23 pm Reply with quote
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I didn't mean to imply that 160mm cranks are common, but they are available. What kind of frame is it justin?

http://aebike.com/page.cfm?action=details&PageID=30&SKU=CR5028
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Aaron
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:27 pm Reply with quote
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Oh, yeah, BMX Mini cranks. Those are designed for 8 year olds!
When I had my adjustable cranks on, I rode 155mm just to see what it was like. Not too bad, but you can feel the drop in leverage when going uphill.

For flats and down hill, they were fine.
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seaden
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 7:22 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 397 Location: CapHill

I ride fairly small frames 50-51-52cm and of my three bikes two have toe overlap..I had a black miyata 310 road bike once and it also had really bad toe overlap...I hate it but as long as it isn't too bad...then it's fine.

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