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the frame is at the welders, now i just need to finish the fork. Aaron and others, the steerer tube was a 1" threaded, fork is 1 1/8 threadless, is there a conversion headset to make this fit?
SeditiousCanary
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:17 am
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sekai wrote:
the frame is at the welders, now i just need to finish the fork. Aaron and others, the steerer tube was a 1" threaded, fork is 1 1/8 threadless, is there a conversion headset to make this fit?
It's called an End Mill and a TIG welder. Your ::edit:: HEAD TUBE ::edit:: precludes the use of an 1 1/8" fork. You could have the welder put a new head tube on it though.
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sekai
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:22 am
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uh, not what i wanted to hear, fuck it who needs a headset
sekai
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:02 am
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ok but really, many hours spent with a file and i should be able to fit a threadless into a 1" right? i've got the fork in there with out a headset and there is still wiggle room.. yearly miles will be under 500 so i'm not too worried about wear. thoughts?
SeditiousCanary
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:11 am
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The concern is the headset cup shoulder is going to add thickness to the inside of the head tube. Once you add the cups, there will not be enough room for the fork.
If you "file" the head tube, it will no longer fit headset cups.
In theory, you could use an externally press fitted cup adaptor, but you would have to make it as they don't exist.
sekai
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:28 am
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ok, how about this. i've spent many hours on this and don't want to re do any welding/ cutting/ fitting if i don't have too. the fork is a very stout d/h tripple crown, so this might work. what about milling the steerer down 1/8" that's 1/16 on the wall. i could then either run a 1" threadless or 1" threaded if i have the steerer threaded. thoughts?
SeditiousCanary
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:32 am
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sekai wrote:
the fork is a very stout d/h tripple crown, so this might work. what about milling the steerer down 1/8" that's 1/16 on the wall.
Seems reasonable. Define "stout" though. And what is the fork steer made of?
sekai
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:39 am
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stout... it's a d/h fork, with thick wall steerer, aluminum. because it is a tripple crown i'm not too worried about milling anything down. hey aaron, you got a mill at the shop don't you?
lantius
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:03 pm
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ha, justin is going to die on his new chopper. awesome!
the dreaded ben
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:30 pm
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grrr... must... fit.... square peg.... into round hole.
sekai
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:33 pm
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the dreaded ben wrote:
grrr... must... fit.... square peg.... into round hole.
i was going to employ you to belittle it and make it feel like a little worthless steerer. easier than the file.
henry
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:00 pm
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sekai wrote:
the dreaded ben wrote:
grrr... must... fit.... square peg.... into round hole.
i was going to employ you to belittle it and make it feel like a little worthless steerer. easier than the file.
A chopper head tube and steerer take a lot of stress. You don't want to be removing metal there. The best solution is a new head tube. However, you might be able to add (braze) a 1 1/8" compatable head tube section on to each end of the existing frame. I am assuming the frame is steel.
I bet David Wilson could help you. Chalo might be interested. Also my landlord Kenny has a full machine shop out behind my shop and he loves to tinker. What you need is a scrap frame with a 1 1/8" headtube we can cut some 1" or so sections out of.
This might be more work than just welding in a new head tube.
Milling down the steerer might be an option if it is thick enough. But probably not a good idea.
Or you could just wrap the steer tube with duct tape, jam it in there and call it good!
sekai
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:38 pm
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dwi is working on the fork so some head tube mods will be ok. you got any steel head tubes around? i'm sure he'll have some in his shop.
Aaron
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:41 pm
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sekai wrote:
dwi is working on the fork so some head tube mods will be ok. you got any steel head tubes around? i'm sure he'll have some in his shop.
I just called my shop, we have 2 scrap frames but they are aluminum. Sorry.
dennyt
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:56 pm
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Yeah, going with a 1-1/8-spec headtube is the way to go.
If you are stuck, I can make you a bastardized steerer tube to fit the fork and frame. That would be ridiculous, but it is a chopper...
sekai
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:59 pm
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dennyt wrote:
Yeah, going with a 1-1/8-spec headtube is the way to go.
If you are stuck, I can make you a bastardized steerer tube to fit the fork and frame. That would be ridiculous, but it is a chopper...
i'm just going to find a 1 1/8 head tube to weld in place. i might be able to catch the welder before he starts.....
damn i had everything raked so perfect.
joby
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:09 pm
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Aaron wrote:
sekai wrote:
dwi is working on the fork so some head tube mods will be ok. you got any steel head tubes around? i'm sure he'll have some in his shop.
I just called my shop, we have 2 scrap frames but they are aluminum. Sorry.
Technium!
Aaron
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:10 pm
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joby wrote:
shop, we have 2 scrap frames but they are aluminum. Sorry.
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