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henry
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:41 pm Reply with quote
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Ok so please feel free to lambast me if i'm doing something stupid or horribly wrong. Here's my problem:

I can't get the fucking cassette off my mountain bike.

I've got the little spline tool and i've used it successfully several times, but i can't get the fucking thing off this wheel.

Shouldn't it freewheel in one direction? I thought i remembered having to use a chain whip. But it doesn't freewheel in either direction when i put the spline thing in there, is that bad?

OMG HELP!!>!>!> SOS!!!!

ok i'm done.

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Aaron
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:44 pm Reply with quote
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Ungood. Does it freewheel with the tool removed?

Either way, just put the tool in place and hold it there with the QR. Then hold the cassette with a chain whip from turning in the freewheel direction (counter clock wise) and use a big wrench to unscrew the lockring.
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henry
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:46 pm Reply with quote
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Aaron wrote:
Ungood. Does it freewheel with the tool removed?

Either way, just put the tool in place and hold it there with the QR. Then hold the cassette with a chain whip from turning in the freewheel direction (counter clock wise) and use a big wrench to unscrew the lockring.


yeah the cassette freewheels fine when the tool is not in there.

so i guess my question is, should I be able to turn the the tool freely in one direction when it's engaged in the cassette?

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dennyt
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:46 pm Reply with quote
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use the chainwhip to keep it from freewheeling, and remove the splined thingy (technical term) in that direction, lefty loosy.
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lieutenantsean
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:47 pm Reply with quote
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Henry, step away from the tools.

What sort of cassette do you have? Does it have a lockring?

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henry
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:52 pm Reply with quote
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dennyt wrote:
use the chainwhip to keep it from freewheeling, and remove the splined thingy (technical term) in that direction, lefty loosy.


that's the thing, it doesn't freewheel. I've only done this a couple times and it was a while back but i remember using the chainwhip to keep it from freewheeling, and now it worries me that there seems to be no need since it won't freewheel.

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Aaron
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:54 pm Reply with quote
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you need the chainwhip, unless you have a freewheel there.

Maybe you need professional help.

Go down to Speedy Reedy!
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henry
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:58 pm Reply with quote
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lieutenantsean wrote:
Henry, step away from the tools.

What sort of cassette do you have? Does it have a lockring?



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lieutenantsean
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:01 pm Reply with quote
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It has a lockring.

Do you have a chainwhip? If not, don't mess with it. Take the spline thingy out and go do something constructive like drink beer.

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henry
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:03 pm Reply with quote
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lieutenantsean wrote:
It has a lockring.

Do you have a chainwhip? If not, don't mess with it. Take the spline thingy out and go do something constructive like drink beer.


yes i have a chainwhip. i'm glad you think all i'm capable of is drinking beer.

why don't you put down the keyboard, stop bitching about your wife making you stay home, and come on a bike ride.

for the record i also drink whiskey and gin. i know gin is old people booze but i like it, it's not all nasty like vodka.

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lieutenantsean
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:12 pm Reply with quote
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I can't remember off the top of my head whether the cassette should freewheel with the lock ring remover in place or not.

With the cassette facing away from you, the chain whip should be on the left. Rotate the lockring remover to the right. If that doesn't work, then professional help is indicated.

Gin is way nastier than vodka.

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Quote:
i'm glad you think all i'm capable of is drinking beer.


Drinking beer is a great way to stop and think about what you are doing. I've solved plenty of problems that way.

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Aaron
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:33 pm Reply with quote
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lieutenantsean wrote:
I can't remember off the top of my head whether the cassette should freewheel with the lock ring remover in place or not.


It should turn. counter clockwise with the tool in place or not.
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henry
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:35 pm Reply with quote
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Aaron wrote:
lieutenantsean wrote:
I can't remember off the top of my head whether the cassette should freewheel with the lock ring remover in place or not.


It should turn. counter clockwise with the tool in place or not.


should the tool turn when it's in there (along with the rest of the cassette?)

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Aaron
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henry wrote:

should the tool turn when it's in there (along with the rest of the cassette?)


Yes.
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lieutenantsean
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:39 pm Reply with quote
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Yes, it should. It doesn't sound the problem is with you, it sounds like the problem with with your freewheel.

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Aaron
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:40 pm Reply with quote
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He doesn't have a freewheel, he has a freehub with a cassette. Confuesed yet, Henry?
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lieutenantsean
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:44 pm Reply with quote
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He doesn't have a freewheel, he has a freehub with a cassette.


Yup. He does.
I'm violating my own rule of using proper terminology.

I'm going to bow out of this discussion before I make a big mess of shit. Assuming I already haven't.

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joeball
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:27 am Reply with quote
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henry did you figure this out?

is this on that shitty mtn bike you bought?

how many speeds in the rear? 7?

if so it is probably a freewheel not a freehub

freewheel you probably need an Park FR-1 (no chainwhip)

freehub you need an fr-5 and a chainwhip

fr-1 and fr-5 look very simular but are not the same
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