somewhat piggishJoined: 05 Aug 2005Posts: 5415Location: on porch with shotgun
So those of you on the Tuesday ride know well that i'm in need of a new back tire. I got yet another flat today on my way in and got pissed off enough to go down to Recycled and buy a pair of Armadillos (700x28).
My problem is this: The only tubes they had with a long enough stem only came in sizes up to 700x23. So i bought a couple of those (at $7 a pop mind you) and threw one in the new back tire and pumped it up to 120psi.
Half way up the hill i heard a gunshot from right behind me. Either some badass sniper hit my back wheel from a hidden location, or the fucking 23mm tube couldn't take being blown up to 28.
So where the fuck do i get a 700x28 tube with at least a 42mm presta stem?
1337Joined: 22 Jul 2005Posts: 6705Location: right over
that sounds more like you had some tube under the bead. i used the 18-20c x 60mm stem from recycled on all my tire sizes from 23-28 without any troubles.
joby
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:20 pm
goes to elevenJoined: 25 Jul 2005Posts: 3899Location: The Cloud
Yah, there's no way a 23 tube would have trouble in a 28 tire.
joeball
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:30 pm
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7$ a pop?
hmm the yellow box tubes at recycled are usually 2 for 6$
did you check your rim tape?
were the flats with the old tire punctures ? did you find glass/tack/thorn?
when the latest tube blew up was it along the seam?
lantius
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:37 pm
1337Joined: 22 Jul 2005Posts: 6705Location: right over
joeball wrote:
7$ a pop?
hmm the yellow box tubes at recycled are usually 2 for 6$
did you check your rim tape?
were the flats with the old tire punctures ? did you find glass/tack/thorn?
when the latest tube blew up was it along the seam?
unfortunately, the only long-stem they have for the 2/$6 price are 19-20c/48mm and 60mm. if you've got new tires on, i'd say check your rim tape, check your rim, and make sure when you put the new tube in that you don't pinch any part of it under the bead or have any twists in it.
langston
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:41 pm
Joined: 25 Jul 2005Posts: 5547Location: Columbia City
How did you find the Armadillos for mounting? I bought a 700x 23 for my new (well, the $40 placeholder) rear wheel and I've gone through two innertubes trying to get the damn thing on right. Now on tube #3, I just have to pump it before i go anywhere.
an a related note, I've had trouble with this wheel slipping around in the drops riding it to work yesterday and today. I messed with it this morning out of frustration and cranked the QR skewer (newish) down tighter and I'm hoping it should hold it now. Any suggestions, y'all?
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zuvembi
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:52 pm
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langston wrote:
an a related note, I've had trouble with this wheel slipping around in the drops riding it to work yesterday and today. I messed with it this morning out of frustration and cranked the QR skewer (newish) down tighter and I'm hoping it should hold it now. Any suggestions, y'all?
Are you using a Shimano skewer or something else? Not all skewers are created equal. I've had a (very recent), bad experience with Airborne Skewers. Unless I cranked them down like a mofo they wouldn't hold, I had to use a *lot* more force than I was used to.
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eternalignorance
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:50 pm
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you guys dont just put the tube in pump it up just enough to keep it it the tire and then mount it? easiest shit evah.
langston
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:54 pm
Joined: 25 Jul 2005Posts: 5547Location: Columbia City
eternalignorance wrote:
you guys dont just put the tube in pump it up just enough to keep it it the tire and then mount it? easiest shit evah.
agreed, except for when the tire is ridiculously tight fitting on the rim and it takes all my strength to get it all the way on. It's been recommended to me to throw it in the dryer for a minute to warm the rubber, or hit it with a hair dryer
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leah
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:14 pm
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langston wrote:
eternalignorance wrote:
you guys dont just put the tube in pump it up just enough to keep it it the tire and then mount it? easiest shit evah.
agreed, except for when the tire is ridiculously tight fitting on the rim and it takes all my strength to get it all the way on. It's been recommended to me to throw it in the dryer for a minute to warm the rubber, or hit it with a hair dryer
is that a real option for you? you own a hair dryer? because i don't, and while my tires are super tight, i've never had a problem a couple of tire levers couldn't fix.
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langston
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:19 pm
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leah wrote:
is that a real option for you? you own a hair dryer? because i don't, and while my tires are super tight, i've never had a problem a couple of tire levers couldn't fix.
yeah, I do happen to own a hairdryer. All the better to coif my sweet mahogany locks with.
in reality, an exroomate left it at a house I used to live in, and it's been following me around for years.
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lantius
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:21 pm
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leah wrote:
is that a real option for you? you own a hair dryer? because i don't, and while my tires are super tight, i've never had a problem a couple of tire levers couldn't fix.
tire levers are not a recommended installation method for tires since even though they are plasticy and rounded it's an easy way to kill your tube. when i'm teaching people how to change a tire, as soon as they get the tire off i make them put away their levers. they won't be needing them further and to leave them around is just a dangerous temptation.
just like with a bottle of two buck chucks, it's all in the wrist!
eternalignorance
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:27 pm
Joined: 08 Jan 2006Posts: 359Location: Imaginary Places
gotta agree with leah there, I have not once killed a tube and I use a lever every time I put it back on, quickest way.
leah
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:32 pm
elderJoined: 10 Feb 2006Posts: 594Location: The Bucket
lantius wrote:
leah wrote:
is that a real option for you? you own a hair dryer? because i don't, and while my tires are super tight, i've never had a problem a couple of tire levers couldn't fix.
tire levers are not a recommended installation method for tires since even though they are plasticy and rounded it's an easy way to kill your tube. when i'm teaching people how to change a tire, as soon as they get the tire off i make them put away their levers. they won't be needing them further and to leave them around is just a dangerous temptation.
just like with a bottle of two buck chucks, it's all in the wrist!
not everyone has big burly man hands. these dainty little pillow fluffing fingers can do very little without the proper tools. i have a disability. it's called "living in a man's world".
grin.
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lantius
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:37 pm
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i reckon it's fine, just don't get unlucky with a tire lever when you're out in ballard at 9pm on a sunday night and ain't got no solution but to walk home. that's how my lesson was learnt. in the school of hard knocks.
eternalignorance
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:43 pm
Joined: 08 Jan 2006Posts: 359Location: Imaginary Places
lantius wrote:
i reckon it's fine, just don't get unlucky with a tire lever when you're out in ballard at 9pm on a sunday night and ain't got no solution but to walk home. that's how my lesson was learnt. in the school of hard knocks.
yeah
ballard
rough neighborhood to get stuck in at 9pm...
I always carry 50 cents for the bus :)
joby
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:16 pm
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lantius wrote:
i reckon it's fine, just don't get unlucky with a tire lever when you're out in ballard at 9pm on a sunday night and ain't got no solution but to walk home. that's how my lesson was learnt. in the school of hard knocks.
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