I'm not the seller, but this 21" Sekai frame would make a decent fixie or ss for someone. I built Diane's backup bike using an identical frame, lugged Tange steel, relaxed geometry, horizontal dropouts. Nothing fancy but it's a decent frame. If the brakes are the same as mine (and I think they are because the bike looks identical) they're self-centering, long side pulls and will work with 700c wheels. Cranks are probably 165, and the frame doesn't have any braze-ons to grind off. I'd make an offer but it's not my size.
$300 shipped. Looks like the fork has a brake mount if you want to ride the road. Not a bad deal for a new track bike.
that doesnt look like a bad deal at all. i was thinking about spending the money for a new set of wheels for my fixed gear... i was going to pay about 300 just for the set of wheels.
i sold a windsor road bike this summer, i loved it but had too many bikes around. i might pick one of these track bikes up.
i, for one, welcome our one-piece crank equipped fixed gear overlords.
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:36 pm
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derrickito wrote:
that doesnt look like a bad deal at all. i was thinking about spending the money for a new set of wheels for my fixed gear... i was going to pay about 300 just for the set of wheels.
Spend the 300 on the new wheelset, the fuji frame you already have is probably still higher quality than this.
This is a brand new 300 bike shipped, and that is not due to a 5-finger discount, if walmart wanted to market this it would be 150$, this is not quality. Wheelsets on these cheap track bikes are notoriously crappy. Parts will just wear out or break quickly on it if you ride it to any extent and then you will be forced to decide whether to chuck it then or pay to fix it.
300 dollars will get you a fine set of hand built wheel which will be much more faithful in their service to you.
Windsor may have had reputation in the past but the name has been bought and is plastered on cheap e-bay bikes now
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for you new trike converts. it's a pretty good deal actually. i wonder if it fell off the back of a truck or something?
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lantius wrote:
for you new trike converts. it's a pretty good deal actually. i wonder if it fell off the back of a truck or something?
You're not kidding! Thats pretty damn cheep for one of those. I'd have to wonder why someone would take a 1000 dollar loss. Sounds fishy to me...buts it's a good deal.
I prefer my bikes solid, i don't like folders...IMO
Can anyone point me in the direction of gold colored wheel sets? I have a vintage Motobecane that's going to be converted into a fixie and it has gold highlights. Gold wheel sets & wraps would definitely do it justice. Spray paint in metallic colors never really works out the way you envision.
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$2750 for a bike that probably has all it parts seized together from ocean salt. And the ones that do turn will probably snap if you actually used them. Oh yeah, I'm going to jump right on that.
Thinking about it, I'm halfway surprised the crankarms and seatpost don't have drill holes. I guess even stupidity madness has it's limits.
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:38 pm
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this is my favorite thread ever, by the way.
Check out this ebay auction, this guy is selling off some seriously nice and rare stuff to finance his wedding
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Wow. that's love, y'all. Just think, if I had a job and could buy some of that stuff, I'd be building sexy bikes and bringing people together. That's so beautiful I could puke. Now that I'm in a romantic mood, I'll spend the rest of the evening looking for mixte frames for that special lady out there.
$2750 for a bike that probably has all it parts seized together from ocean salt. And the ones that do turn will probably snap if you actually used them. Oh yeah, I'm going to jump right on that.
Thinking about it, I'm halfway surprised the crankarms and seatpost don't have drill holes. I guess even stupidity madness has it's limits.
You young kids! That bike is totally valuable! It is being sold by a very reputable company. Cycleart. They do custom restorations. They even make decals if you need/want to restore your old bike. It is sad that all the Campy stuff had a little rust. The drill holes were popular in the 1970s. Modern Shimano and SRAM parts are trimmed down and drilled out too. Those parts were probably done at the frame shop that made the bike or at a shop. Many shops made special gigs to hold parts to drill them precicely. Later Campy and SunTour sold parts pre-drilled at the factory. The weight savings was minimal. It was mostly a look thing.
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:55 am
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a little bit of reading goes a long way. apparently art stump was an engineer and framebuilder who was famous for designing these drilled-out frames and components.
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$2750 for a bike that probably has all it parts seized together from ocean salt. And the ones that do turn will probably snap if you actually used them. Oh yeah, I'm going to jump right on that.
Thinking about it, I'm halfway surprised the crankarms and seatpost don't have drill holes. I guess even stupidity madness has it's limits.
You young kids! That bike is totally valuable rusty! It is being sold by a very reputable company. Cycleart. They do custom restorations.
Which would be great, except that they specifically note in the auction it has not been restored at all.
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Other than that, we are selling it in original "as-found" condition.
I'm guessing that the reason they haven't restored it is the stem and seatpost are corrosion welded into the frame. If it was in really good shape they would have done at least minimal restoration to make it sell well.
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This rare bicycle shows little use. However, it has lived near the ocean for many years, so the steel parts show some rust and the aluminum parts show some frosting.
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They even make decals if you need/want to restore your old bike. It is sad that all the Campy stuff had a little rust. The drill holes were popular in the 1970s. Modern Shimano and SRAM parts are trimmed down and drilled out too. Those parts were probably done at the frame shop that made the bike or at a shop. Many shops made special gigs to hold parts to drill them precicely. Later Campy and SunTour sold parts pre-drilled at the factory. The weight savings was minimal. It was mostly a look thing.
Yes, yes, I know all about it Aaron. For example, in "The Dancing Chain," 2nd edition, Frank Berto wrote:
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In 1972, Huret introduced the elegant Jubilee front and rear
derailleurs. This was the 'lightness' decade [1965-1974], when
everything except water bottles and pumps was drilled out. At 133 g (4
oz.), the Huret Jubilee was one of the lightest rear derailleurs ever
made. It shifted quite well if you did not push its capacity. The rear
Jubilee was a conventional two-pulley parallelogram design. The true
capacity was about a 24-tooth sprocket. Huret made a long-cage touring
version of the Jubilee for a few years, but it was really too
delicate. The final version of the Jubilee had a drilled-out cage.
Today, surviving Jubilees are prized by collectors.
There is a bit of controversy over the weight of the Jubilee rear
derailleur. Huret listed the weights from 133 to 148 g. The
drilled-cage versions were actually heavier (it had to be beefed up to
make up for the loss of strength due to the holes). My Jubilee weighs
132 g. including the mounting bolt. The 80 g Huret Jubilee front
derailleur was too light for its own good. You had to shift carefully
or the cage would bend.
--p. 199-201
It's just more evidence to me that Drillium is a bad fucking idea. When I buy heavy parts, it's because they're strong, not to compensate for defects-by-design caused by fashion.
*cough* low spoke count wheels *cough*
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Aaron
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:29 am
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At that price I don't think the stem and seatpost would be frozen, but you never know. One could always just call them if interested! Drilled parts are pretty rare and make people nostalgic when they see them. They will always hold value for collectors. The problem drilled out parts were the ones done by home mechanics! In todays sue-happy society, I almost never modify parts.
good for us tall kids. commuter/touring frames are hot shit, usually they have great clearance for fenders, 35mm tires, rack mounts, etc. plus, 36-spoke wheels and barcons.
Bi-curious - fine
Gay-curius - sure
Fixie-curious - we've gone too far......
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Size unknown but I'm 5'6" with a 30" inch inseam at it is right on the verge of being to big.
This drives me nuts. Along with knowing how to fix a bloody flat tire, anyone who mounts a bike should be required to know how to measure it's freakin' size. Get a tape measure you twat and learn what c-c means. If you know your own inseam, a bike isn't that much more difficult and someone doesn't have to touch your crotch.
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