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lieutenantsean
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:04 pm Reply with quote
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So, I was reading a thread on CBC's forum about lubricating chains. There are some people with some serious experience over there, maybe someone had a new trick I could learn. Then I found this...
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I found a new lube this winter called Phil's Tenacious Oil. My chain will never squeek again, but I swear I'll never get clean down to my actually chain again when I clean! Do I like it? Yes...Would I ever put it on my good bike? No. Since using Phil's lube I've had my first winter with no rust at all on the chain, no squeeking either. I do ride in all weather and clean the chain weekly so this was a big win for me. I'm getting more life out of a cheaper chain. If you use something like Phil's you have to clean on a regular basis though. It will pick up debris


New lube called Phil's Tenacious Oil What the fuck? That shit's been around for ever. Hell, I think Eddy Merckx used it for a personal lubricant.

Would I ever put it on my GOOD bike
So, she's extolling the virtues of it on the one hand but won't put it on her good bike because she doesn't want it to get dirty. Awwww.

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leah
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:09 pm Reply with quote
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lieutenantsean wrote:
So, I was reading a thread on CBC's forum about lubricating chains. There are some people with some serious experience over there, maybe someone had a new trick I could learn. Then I found this...
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I found a new lube this winter called Phil's Tenacious Oil. My chain will never squeek again, but I swear I'll never get clean down to my actually chain again when I clean! Do I like it? Yes...Would I ever put it on my good bike? No. Since using Phil's lube I've had my first winter with no rust at all on the chain, no squeeking either. I do ride in all weather and clean the chain weekly so this was a big win for me. I'm getting more life out of a cheaper chain. If you use something like Phil's you have to clean on a regular basis though. It will pick up debris


New lube called Phil's Tenacious Oil What the fuck? That shit's been around for ever. Hell, I think Eddy Merckx used it for a personal lubricant.

Would I ever put it on my GOOD bike
So, she's extolling the virtues of it on the one hand but won't put it on her good bike because she doesn't want it to get dirty. Awwww.


um, sean? her commentary sounds like the same reason why so many people (even in .83) use white lightening. really, why get dirty if you can avoid it?

i hate the stuff (wl), but whatevah.

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langston
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:17 pm Reply with quote
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a dirty bike is a loved bike. I'm talking a bit of grit and grime, not some bike that's never seen a rag.

I keep an old dishcloth in my bag and wipe 'er down whenever I lube the chain. It works out well that my bike is usually getting grimy by the time the chain squeeks. Sorta like checking the oil and tire pressure whenever you fill the tank of your auto.

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SeditiousCanary
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:22 am Reply with quote
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leah wrote:
really, why get dirty if you can avoid it?

i hate the stuff (wl), but whatevah.


This means you've used too much. Oil is only good in the chain, not on it. You wipe it off after lubing for a reason. To not pick up dirt.

Most people use way too much and don't wipe enough off. It should be nearly totaly dry on the outside. It also requires more attention if you do that, so I can see why people leave more on than they should.
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leah
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:04 am Reply with quote
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SeditiousCanary wrote:
leah wrote:
really, why get dirty if you can avoid it?

i hate the stuff (wl), but whatevah.


This means you've used too much. Oil is only good in the chain, not on it. You wipe it off after lubing for a reason. To not pick up dirt.

Most people use way too much and don't wipe enough off. It should be nearly totaly dry on the outside. It also requires more attention if you do that, so I can see why people leave more on than they should.


you've singled out the wrong girl, chris

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lieutenantsean
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:42 am Reply with quote
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Leah. Sigh.

The comment about Phil's being "new" was funny. It suggests she's a noob, or has been doing all her shopping in places like REI that don't sell Phil's.

I was appalled that she found it perfectly ok for winter use, but wouldn't put it on her "good" bike because it attracted too much dirt. Does that mean she has another bike that she doesn't give a rat's ass about? Or that she just doesn't know how to oil her chain properly or that it has to be cleaned from time to time.

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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:58 am Reply with quote
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leah wrote:
you've singled out the wrong girl, chris

No I didn't. I didn't use your name once or even refer to you, I just responded.
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jillita
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:13 am Reply with quote
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Since using Phil's lube I've had my first winter with no rust at all on the chain, no squeeking either.


THIS is what's sad (ok calling Phil's new is pretty bad, too.). Her first winter with no rust or squeeking?? Jesus christ. This is the kind of person that gives women a bad name.
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lieutenantsean
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:17 am Reply with quote
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I wasn't thinking about it in terms of just women. But it should be a clear message to her that the shit really works.

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Aaron
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It is not the lube buy how you use it!
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