So..... i am finally going to break down and buy some shoes, cleats and pedals.
i know next to nothing about this shit, so i am looking for suggestions.
Let me re-phrase that....I know to get mountain shoes, but aside from that...I don't know shit. Who has what? What is good and cheap and what is actually worth the expensive price tags?
also....will I be able to switch the pedals between my 80s Fuji and my Lemond?
thanks
vann
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SeditiousCanary
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:55 pm
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For shoes, Sidi are awesome. Mine are 8 years old and still great.
Pedals, I run Shimano and love them.
Yes, should work between your old bike and new bike.
Razi
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:36 pm
Joined: 16 Dec 2005Posts: 866Location: Seattle
I ride with a pair of shimano road shoes that have a recess for the cleat. They are walkable like mountain shoes, but stiffer like road shoes. They are comfy and seem very durable.
For pedals I use crank brothers candies and I have no complaints. 20 degrees of float feels nice on the knees, and they are easy to get into and out of. There is also enough of a platform to stomp on for short rides. The pedals come in nice colors too.
(incidentally, there was a pair of crank bros. candies in the REI gear garage last tuesday going for $30 marked down from $85. They were returned because the person who bought them installed them and then did not like them).
I ride with a pair of shimano road shoes that have a recess for the cleat. They are walkable like mountain shoes, but stiffer like road shoes. They are comfy and seem very durable.
For pedals I use crank brothers candies and I have no complaints. 20 degrees of float feels nice on the knees, and they are easy to get into and out of. There is also enough of a platform to stomp on for short rides. The pedals come in nice colors too.
(incidentally, there was a pair of crank bros. candies in the REI gear garage last tuesday going for $30 marked down from $85. They were returned because the person who bought them installed them and then did not like them).
what/where is the REI gear garage?
Razi
Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:40 am
Joined: 16 Dec 2005Posts: 866Location: Seattle
Vann wrote:
Razi wrote:
I ride with a pair of shimano road shoes that have a recess for the cleat. They are walkable like mountain shoes, but stiffer like road shoes. They are comfy and seem very durable.
For pedals I use crank brothers candies and I have no complaints. 20 degrees of float feels nice on the knees, and they are easy to get into and out of. There is also enough of a platform to stomp on for short rides. The pedals come in nice colors too.
(incidentally, there was a pair of crank bros. candies in the REI gear garage last tuesday going for $30 marked down from $85. They were returned because the person who bought them installed them and then did not like them).
what/where is the REI gear garage?
REI gear garage is REI's solution to the madness that was the semi-annual garage sale. Rather than hoard all that shit over six months, only to have a hippie shopping circus when it was finally for sale, REI now has a constant stream of returned or damaged merch for sale. The deals are amazing too. I have seen tents go for 1/4 or even less of what they are worth, and this because they need a minuscule repair that will cost less than the change floating in an average sofa, and will take less than 15 minutes to accomplish.
The gear garage is in the northwest corner of the building. Walk straight through the bike shop to the back where all the tires are stocked, then go down the stairs and prepare to feast on the excesses of consumerism, where a tiny blemish in the color of a backpack decreases its value by 1/2 or more.
And the pedals? In a glass case at the bottom of the stairs. I would wager even odds that they are still there too.
because they need a minuscule repair that will cost less than the change floating in an average sofa, and will take less than 15 minutes to accomplish.
You can thank Nordstrom for making customers act that way. When I have someone bring things back, I first try to fix the item. Often I can. If it is clothing, I tell them to sew it. Jesus! People can't even sew anymore! Very rarely is something truly defective. Even if it is, it can often be repaired. Yeah, throw-away society!
Vann
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:50 am
Joined: 03 Mar 2006Posts: 311
ben, aaron.....no suggestions/opinions on this matter?
you see boys....this is when you are SUPPOSE to give an opinion.
i know its a change from the normal heartfelt diatribe you go on about stupid shit....but you really should chime in here. most of the time i value your opinions.
kinaidos
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:32 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006Posts: 27Location: Cap Hill
Crank bros eggbeaters in any style are great for fixies, very easy to clip into with the cranks moving, and you can clip into them with the cranks in any position. That also makes them great for Cyclocross, or if you happen to like mounting Cyclocross style. The current Crank Bros cleat gives you +- 6 deg for float (lets you rotate your feet which helps take stress off the knees). You can set the release to 15 or 20 degrees depending on how you install the cleat. (15 for easy release, 20 for riding with wild abandon and not having to worry about unclipping).
For riding with a freewheel and MTB shoes, Speedplay Frogs are comfortable, with a lot of float and 0-force twist release. They are a little tricky to clip into with moving cranks or in odd crank positions though, so they aren't great for riding fixed. Another plus to the Frogs is that they have a hard stop rotating inward. It's a tiny plus. It keeps you from hitting your cranks or chainstays, but I'm not sure what that's worth. The Frogs are also a little more stable on shoes with a low side tread. The eggbeaters actually use the side tread of the shoe as a weight bearing surface. If the tread is too low to contact the spindle bushings then you are carrying everything on the two wire sized patches where the pedal hits the shoe at the cleat. It doesn't feel very good sprinting like that.
So for me it boils down to Crank Bro eggbeaters for fixed gear or cyclocross riding, and Frogs for road riding with an MTB shoe. (Because it's dangerous to walk around in road cleats while inebriating/ed.)
lantius
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:45 pm
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i've had great luck with my $25 661 mountain shoes with the $20 wellgo/ritchey/nashperfgo spd pedals on all my bikes. so much so that riding without cleats feels really strange to me.
joeball
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:51 pm
Joined: 24 Jul 2005Posts: 6037Location: Ether
search "cleats" or "spd" or the like in this forum Vann. many of have weighed in our opinions.
SPD's and Eggs are probably the top 2 systems used in our group.
josh m
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:56 pm
Joined: 09 Jan 2006Posts: 448Location: portland
as mentioned, egg beaters seem to be the best for fixies, but the cleats wear out fast if you're riding brakeless.
My roommate runs them on his brakeless, though. He runs Looks on his roadbike, but that bike he only rides long distances.
I ran spd's for a while and picked up a pair of the Shimano MTB shoes, which were nice w/ the recessed cleat so it was like a normal shoe, but stiff soled. They weren't flashy looking, which is why I picked them up.
But yeah, everyone i know who wears sidis love them and I'm planning to pick up a pair sometime.
though for the last couple months I've been riding toeclips again, instead, but am tempted to go back to clipless... but i used always unclip when I went to skid, so.. who knows.
Vann
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:21 pm
Joined: 03 Mar 2006Posts: 311
thanks guys.
i think i have enough to go on.
i'll let you know what i get.
Old Crow
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:19 pm
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I just recently made the jump myself and I'm glad I did. I went with the speedplay frogs. The simple design/ease of use/ amount of float sold me and I wish I had bought them a year ago. I was in and out of them with essentially no learning curve and I have had no issues with them, drunk or sober.
Just my two cents. I hear the eggbeaters are just as good.
As for shoes, Shimano shoes are waterproofed with a paper sticker. That's all I have to say about that.
henry
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:24 pm
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one thing about spds is that everyone uses them. want to borrow a bike/take a bike for a test ride while we are out? more than likely it has spds.
so there is one other person in the world other than me that uses frogs. I was feeling lonely.
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josh m
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:04 pm
Joined: 09 Jan 2006Posts: 448Location: portland
Old Crow wrote:
As for shoes, Shimano shoes are waterproofed with a paper sticker. That's all I have to say about that.
The only time i've got water in my shimano shoes is from the toe vents, otherwise, i've had no water come in through the cleats
Aaron
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:07 pm
Joined: 25 Jul 2005Posts: 4645
Vann wrote:
ben, aaron.....no suggestions/opinions on this matter?
you see boys....this is when you are SUPPOSE to give an opinion.
i know its a change from the normal heartfelt diatribe you go on about stupid shit....but you really should chime in here. most of the time i value your opinions.
Jesus man! It is June/July (SUMMER) in a bike shop. Want my advice? Call me! 206-938-9795 I won't do you wrong. I post a hell of a lot more in the WINTER!
Vann
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:48 am
Joined: 03 Mar 2006Posts: 311
Aaron wrote:
Jesus man! It is June/July (SUMMER) in a bike shop. Want my advice? Call me! 206-938-9795 I won't do you wrong. I post a hell of a lot more in the WINTER!
ha!
good to hear from you aaron.
point taken.
i'll pull my head out of my ass immediatley.
listen for loud popping noise.
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