Cranked re-opens the argument of who invented rolled up jeans and shoulder bags. Plus, a mention of .83.
henry
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:57 pm
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I'm doing my best to ditch my chrome bag for a backpack and my fixed gear for something less cool because i get sick of all the associations that go along with the messenger look.
At least my chrome bag is worn and soiled from carrying bikes, beer, palletes, dumpster bread, etc on my back. I see so many crisp, clean messenger bags on the backs of hipsters. They're like the capitol hill man purse.
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henry wrote:
I'm doing my best to ditch my chrome bag for a backpack and my fixed gear for something less cool because i get sick of all the associations that go along with the messenger look.
At least my chrome bag is worn and soiled from carrying bikes, beer, palletes, dumpster bread, etc on my back. I see so many crisp, clean messenger bags on the backs of hipsters. They're like the capitol hill man purse.
Not just because all your jeans are ruined, your back hurts from the lopsided load and you're tired of having a mini-stroke every time you ride home? Welcome to the light, friend. I'll assign you your wool riding slacks on thursday.
joeball
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:05 pm
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I read Cranked and have one of these on my bike so there.
jeff
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:09 pm
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Wouldn't it be awesome if there was a group of professional dish washers out there that got all huffy about the way others cleaned up after supper?
Followed around by a group of scenesters emulating them by dressing in aprons and wearing rubber gloves.
henry
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:20 pm
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jeff wrote:
Wouldn't it be awesome if there was a group of professional dish washers out there that got all huffy about the way others cleaned up after supper?
Followed around by a group of scenesters emulating them by dressing in aprons and wearing rubber gloves.
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joeball wrote:
I read Cranked and have one of these on my bike so there.
That's because Cranked also tries to offer coverage for those who bike around with a well-stocked fridge on their handlebars.
Seriously, though, that picture looks like some platonic ideal of a grocery trip. Like what they'd teach 3-year olds to buy on Sesame Street (well, minus the bottle of wine): No brand names, lots of fruits and veggies, lots of color.
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:40 pm
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jeff wrote:
Wouldn't it be awesome if there was a group of professional dish washers out there that got all huffy about the way others cleaned up after supper?
Followed around by a group of scenesters emulating them by dressing in aprons and wearing rubber gloves.
this is most hilarious thing ive read all day.
Hayduke
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:44 pm
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Messenger_Style wrote
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And admittedly, everyone has to start somewhere. We weren’t all messengers when we were born.
Does he really think that the average commuter that is "dressing" like a meakanger (or mess-anger) is aspiring to be a messenger someday? I kinda think of the messenger gig as the kind of job that you do when (1) you don't have any other skills, (2) you are between "real" jobs, or (3) as a means to an end to attain marketable skills because you are going to night classes. It is on par with any other "entry" level job, tantamount to working in the mail room. Unfortunately, there isn't really any promotion potential or even good benefits to make up for the shit pay for hard work in dangerous and uncomfortable conditions. Can't he just be happy that people are riding bikes, even if it is just to be part of a scene? If that is what it takes to ween someone off of the petrol tit, than it can not be considered bad in the slightest bit.
That is it for my rant, sorry if I offended anyone out there that was hoping to someday be a messanger.
Finn
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:52 pm
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jeff wrote:
Cranked re-opens the argument of who invented rolled up jeans and shoulder bags.
My money's on these guys. At the latest.
Note to self: Get tri-corner helmet and piss-off Paul Revere.
Happy Stick Person
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:08 pm
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can't find an old timey pic but i'm going with the scotts!!!
obviously the kilt was designed to not get caught in chainrings.
Stanglor
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:28 pm
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A.) Quit caring what a bunch of 'dishwashers on wheels' have to say about what kind of bike you ride or how you dress. Why do you give a shit?
B.) Quit calling them dishwashers on wheels, it just makes you look like a jerk.
-the guy that rides around in enough lycra to choke a donkey.
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:47 pm
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donkey choker!
ps, did you say something to my new flatmate? she looks at me funny when she sees me in the hall :)
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ive been looking for that video!
Aaron
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:38 pm
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Before you know it, these messengers will have wings.
jeff
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:08 am
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I have nothing but respect for messengers. Their's is a rough job, very little pay and lots of room for getting hurt, but this whole "I'm holier than thou" because of where I work is retarded. Thus, the dishwasher comment.
Are you defined by your job? If so, you need to spend more time away from it.
Aaron
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:01 pm
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jeff wrote:
Are you defined by your job? If so, you need to spend more time away from it.
What did you call me?
jeff
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:08 pm
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Aaron wrote:
jeff wrote:
Are you defined by your job? If so, you need to spend more time away from it.
What did you call me?
Snuggle buddy.
badhill
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:37 pm
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Finn wrote:
jeff wrote:
Cranked re-opens the argument of who invented rolled up jeans and shoulder bags.
My money's on these guys. At the latest.
Note to self: Get tri-corner helmet and piss-off Paul Revere.
currently wins the LOLz award.
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joeball
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 5:03 pm
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I was thinking it would be fine with me if messengers drove Escalades. I'd be OK with that, so long as everyone else road bikes and the messengers drove to be different.
Besides wannabe Porteurs are the new thing.
huckerjesse
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:47 pm
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I ride a fixed gear bike for FUN! not to be someone im not... I have a messenger bag (chrome-mini metro) to haul my day 2 day thing from work and back... i also have a ortlieb messenger pack cuz it was a blem on sale for $20! I dont like the attitude i get from messengers in town, they act as if im less of a person than them. yet i am on a similer bike with a similer pack and doing the same thing... running around town from one place to another to do my every day tasks. yet i dont get paid shit money for doing it, and i do take showers everyday, unlike the seattle messenger croud i have been around that stink like shit. I do courier jobs around renton (where i work) few and far between, just to make my days go by faster. I also was a messenger in bellingham where i use to live before moving to seattle. so my impressions of the seattle messenger croud come from a "profesional" point of view. I lived in the bay area prior to B-ham and can tell you that seattle messengers arnt fast. they are lazy compared to S.F. messengers also seattle messengers, well to me, look hella Emo minus the makeup. if this wasent clear... I am bashing on "real" seattle messengers and telling other fixed gear riders "we are the last of a dieing breed, ride fixed for whatever reason you have!"
~Jesse
ripper
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:17 pm
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I'll be the one to come out and defend the messengers, I guess. I hate that attitude, but it's part of any subcultural identity that comes along. As a metalhead, I know what the difference is between mallcore and being "true" (I'm undoubtedly true). But I'm not going to shit talk the messengers. They do a shit job for shit pay, and while for a lot of them it may be a job to do while going through a transition, I think we'd be surprised how many live and love the job they do.
I wear a shoulder bag. I ride a fixed gear. I'll admit, I ape that style. But I also have the intense pleasure of riding every day, rain or shine. Of being a part of a greater cultural movement that exists outside of the messenger clique.
Whenever I meet somebody who wants to listen to metal, or look or live that life, my first instinct is to look down the nose and say "you'd never understand." Then, my enthusiasm takes over, and I say "Shit, you've never heard At The Gates? CARCASS? Man, do I have some albums to share with YOU!" I feel that same sort of enthusiasm for cycling, and I'll say that the scene/look/attitude had something to do with drawing me in. The best thing is that it increased my acceptance in cycling as a way of life, as a political statement, and as one of the most fun and rewarding things I can do.
When Metallica became the band du jour, I resented the shit out of everybody suddenly thinking they could like my music. When that sense of ownership is diminished, the resentment comes with it. When riding a fixed gear falls out of fashion, then everybody will chill out, we'll still be riding every day, and the messengers will still be riding hard day in and day out. Let them have their resentment for now, and in a few years, let the guys with dynahubs and racks get all bummed out because their "thing" is being totally ripped off.
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