Point83.com Forum Index  »  Westlake Center  »  OT Image Extraction (Librarians, CE/CS folks)
 Post new topic   Reply to topic
Page 1 of 1    
 
joeball
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:51 am Reply with quote
Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 6037 Location: Ether

I want to retrieve an entire digital image from UW. I can find the image here
http://content.lib.washington.edu/cgi-bin/viewer.exe?CISOROOT=/pioneerlife&CISOPTR=2424&CISOMODE=thumb
and they have a pan and zoom feature but that gives a 500x500pixel popup window. But this only allows you to view a portion of the entire image at full resolution. I looked at the properties and see that there are coordinates. I was able to change "DMWIDTH" and "DMHEIGHT" to get more of the picture (1500x2336) but when I try to change the extents to the full size (2000x2836) I get an error.

http://content.lib.washington.edu/cgi-bin/getimage.exe?CISOROOT=/pioneerlife&CISOPTR=2424&DMSCALE=100&DMWIDTH=1500&DMHEIGHT=2336&DMX=0&DMY=0&DMTEXT=
Can anyone help? I'm going to keep iterating and see if I can get something to work but I'm sure there is a simpler solution.
View user's profile Send private message
 
derrickito
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:07 am Reply with quote
now with 50 percent more EVIL Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 10566

i pulled a few variables off the end of the url string and managed to get a zoomed in version, but only of the top left quadrant

http://content.lib.washington.edu/cgi-bin/getimage.exe?CISOROOT=/pioneerlife&CISOPTR=2424

if you can guess the cisoptr quandrants you might be able to get it all.
or hell, why dont you use the viewer to look at them all individually, then screenshot them and lay them back together with photoshop?
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
 
Torch
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:13 am Reply with quote
Terrance Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 1637 Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands

ito's going about it much the same way that i am. i tried hunting through the source code of the main page and the resultant zoom page, but to no avail.

you could also just contact them and see if they can provide you with the full-size, since the bottom of the main page lists where they store it.

_________________
"the only difference between me and a madman is that i am not mad."

- Salvador Dali
View user's profile Send private message
 
zuvembi
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:13 am Reply with quote
Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 942 Location: Little Addis Ababa

I pulled them all off, one minute while I stitch them together.

_________________
When the revolution comes, we're going to need a longer wall
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
 
lantius
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:13 am Reply with quote
1337 Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 6705 Location: right over

i was able to set it at 93% and take 10px of each dimension for this url that worked.

i think the full resolution file size is just bigger than their script can actually handle, given that the file i generated is almost 1mb in size.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
 
Hayduke
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:28 am Reply with quote
Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 677 Location: Seattle, WA

PHI = 1.6180339887
I think what we have here is a violation of the Golden Ratio.
View user's profile Send private message
 
zuvembi
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:54 am Reply with quote
Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 942 Location: Little Addis Ababa

Sorry it took so long, I haven't used montage to stitch images together before and the options are not as well documented as one would like.

Full map - 1.5 Megs

_________________
When the revolution comes, we're going to need a longer wall
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
 
lantius
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:07 pm Reply with quote
1337 Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 6705 Location: right over

we're gonna need a montaaagge!
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
 
gsbarnes
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:12 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 2666 Location: No Fun Town, USA

zuvembi wrote:
Sorry it took so long, I haven't used montage to stitch images together before and the options are not as well documented as one would like.

Full map - 1.5 Megs


Oh, look, there's my house!

_________________
I have always thought in the back of my mind: Cheese and Onions
View user's profile Send private message
 
pete jr
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:30 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 1930 Location: balls deepx

look, the latona neighborhood!
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
 
joeball
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:00 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 6037 Location: Ether

Thanks, yeah I wished I could have just grabbed the full res tiff but I couldn't find it online. I ended up grabbing about 80% of the map area at 100% resolution which contained the area of interest for me as well as the scale bar at the bottom. I'll try that 93% full plot as well lee. Now to georeference in GIS. Thanks for monatging Dane. Greg, your house was built prior to 1903?
View user's profile Send private message
 
gsbarnes
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:50 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 2666 Location: No Fun Town, USA

joeball wrote:
Greg, your house was built prior to 1903?


No, I was joking. My house was built in 1963, circa the 2nd Seattle World's Fair, this map is circa the 1st Seattle World's Fair (AYP). But I spent a goodly number of minutes looking at that map trying to figure out where my house must be. Pinpointing it E-W is pretty easy, as it's on 39th, which corresponds to where the Burke-Gilman Railroad Line bends east for a stretch (north of the word 'Yesler'). N-S is determined by the somewhat long E-W road that runs east of Green Lake, which roughly corresponds to NE 65th, as well as the short streets just off the NE edge of Green Lake, which roughly correspond to NE 70th, my cross-street. This puts the site of my house just NW of the '300' contour mark.

What threw me off is that I think they're missing some contour lines to the east of my house (the rise east of the View Ridge PCC). But I'm not surprised they didn't get everything right, as apparently it was all just a forested backwater at the time.

Oh, and did you notice that back then, there was a road down to (present-day) Carkeek Park, but not Golden Gardens (Meadow Point on the map)? I'm a bit of a map nerd.

_________________
I have always thought in the back of my mind: Cheese and Onions
View user's profile Send private message
 
Aaron
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:55 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 4645

That map will come in handly in 10 or 20 years as sea level rises. My house will be closer to the beach!
View user's profile Send private message
 
gsbarnes
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:04 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 2666 Location: No Fun Town, USA

Aaron wrote:
That map will come in handly in 10 or 20 years as sea level rises. My house will be closer to the beach!


Remember that they're talking about rises to the ocean level, so it won't be as noticeable on Puget Sound, which is slightly above sea level, or Lake Washington, which is even more so.

But yeah, I wonder when they'll have to abandon University Village.

_________________
I have always thought in the back of my mind: Cheese and Onions
View user's profile Send private message
 
lantius
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:13 pm Reply with quote
1337 Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 6705 Location: right over

gsbarnes wrote:
But yeah, I wonder when they'll have to abandon University Village.


u village is at least 20 feet above puget sound. there's a ways to go yet before we have to work on building the locks to go the other direction.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
 
henry
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:14 pm Reply with quote
somewhat piggish Joined: 05 Aug 2005 Posts: 5415 Location: on porch with shotgun

gsbarnes wrote:
University Village.


Just the name inspires my rage. But i was able to leverage the "we'll do pretty much anything to make a buck" attitude of that place this weekend while getting my "do not duplicate" keys duplicated.

_________________
winter men
View user's profile Send private message
 
joeball
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:26 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 6037 Location: Ether

Not for a while, The locks keep lake washington about 20 feet higher than mean low tide for the sound and lake washington was lowered about 9 feet when the ship canal/locks were completed. Montlake Parking was wetland but U-Village was probably just soggy, not underwater.

Also just before Puget Sound-Lake Union-Lake Washington were connected Lake Washington was at a high natural elevation. It used to outlet into the Black River near Renton (which flowed into the Duwamish the Elliot Bay) but that outlet had been naturally filling with debris and damming itself, thus the lake level had been rising in recent decades prior to the locks becoming the outlet.

Sea level rise is on the order of inches right now, not a big deal for us, now if we lived in Florida where the highest elevation is 345 feet (i heard it is a freeway overpass at that) it is more of an issue. I don't think they could host a FHR there.
View user's profile Send private message
 
lantius
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:29 pm Reply with quote
1337 Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 6705 Location: right over

conveniently, six-meter (20') rise in florda:
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
 
gsbarnes
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:39 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 2666 Location: No Fun Town, USA

lantius wrote:
gsbarnes wrote:
But yeah, I wonder when they'll have to abandon University Village.


u village is at least 20 feet above puget sound. there's a ways to go yet before we have to work on building the locks to go the other direction.


Apparently sections of it are less than 20 feet above sea level. Try this:
http://flood.firetree.net/?ll=47.6585,-122.2989&z=2&m=6. One section is less than 6m above sea level. At 9m (around 29 feet), the whole place is basically underwater, whereas, for example, Husky Stadium is untouched.

My point is that U Village is among the first structures that I can see in NE Seattle that would be affected by a rise in water levels (the other obvious ones: the art studio over by Mary Gates Drive, all the Boat Street and Northlake businesses like Agua Verde, Recycled Cycles, and Ivar's, and some structures in Magnuson Park).

U Village has trouble growing trees because the water table is so close to the 'ground'. And did you see the pumps they had to put in when they were building the parking garage (which, incidentally, is on their highest ground)?

_________________
I have always thought in the back of my mind: Cheese and Onions
View user's profile Send private message
 
rlotz
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:43 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 311 Location: Capitol Hill

lantius wrote:
conveniently, six-meter (20') rise in florda:


And that is why I'm going to put several more tons of CO2 into the atmosphere next month to go visit my birthplace and the damn everglades before its underwater.

Humorously I did find a few listings for "mountain" bike trails around my Mom's house. One even said it featured a climb!
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
 
gsbarnes
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:45 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 2666 Location: No Fun Town, USA

joeball wrote:
Not for a while, The locks keep lake washington about 20 feet higher than mean low tide for the sound and lake washington was lowered about 9 feet when the ship canal/locks were completed. Montlake Parking was wetland but U-Village was probably just soggy, not underwater.


This may have been true at some point, but now, Montlake (the parking lot) is higher than U Village (probably due to all the accumulated garbage from its life as a dump). As is most of the Husky Sports complex. The flood would come up the Union Bay Natural Area (east of the Montlake Parking Lot) and straight into University Village via the slough.

_________________
I have always thought in the back of my mind: Cheese and Onions
View user's profile Send private message
 
gsbarnes
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:47 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 2666 Location: No Fun Town, USA

joeball wrote:

Sea level rise is on the order of inches right now, not a big deal for us, now if we lived in Florida where the highest elevation is 345 feet (i heard it is a freeway overpass at that) it is more of an issue. I don't think they could host a FHR there.


Back when I was in grad school, one of my housemates' sister visited from Florida. Man, did she whine about the hills.

_________________
I have always thought in the back of my mind: Cheese and Onions
View user's profile Send private message
 
joeball
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:54 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 6037 Location: Ether

I saw this when I visited the Everglades in Florida, next time I need to take a bike and camera so I can do some pass hunting.

View user's profile Send private message
 
lantius
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 5:42 pm Reply with quote
1337 Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 6705 Location: right over

man if we do get a 6m sea level rise it's going to be a lot tougher to ride over to abr.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
 
gsbarnes
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:41 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 2666 Location: No Fun Town, USA

lantius wrote:
man if we do get a 6m sea level rise it's going to be a lot tougher to ride over to abr.


I sense another viaduct vote!

_________________
I have always thought in the back of my mind: Cheese and Onions
View user's profile Send private message
 
Reply to topic
Page 1 of 1    
Point83.com Forum Index  »  Westlake Center  »  OT Image Extraction (Librarians, CE/CS folks)
All times are GMT - 8 Hours
The time now is Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:11 am
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
 


Forums | Calendar | TOS | Tapirs

© 2004-2015 Point83
Point83 is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Joby Lafky Corporation