1337Joined: 22 Jul 2005Posts: 6705Location: right over
so, if ben country taught us anything, it's that sub 24-hour overnight trips (or close to sub 24-hour) can be a shit ton of fun. i want to do more!
does anybody have good ideas of where we should go? i was thinking that fay bainbridge state park would be a good short one for folks who are maybe not so up for serious mileage, but would be easy to do leaving after work, and honestly you could be back in town for work the next day.
there are also a couple of state parks up on whidbey, and out towards the mountains there's plenty of stuff as well.
Joe
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:46 am
Joined: 15 Feb 2007Posts: 430
I'm totally down with this idea, in case you were worried.
langston
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:59 am
Joined: 25 Jul 2005Posts: 5547Location: Columbia City
Fort Ebey State Park, on Whidbey. Not all shitty & full of campers like Casey, and very nice. It's where my family goes to get the F out of town for a bit and I've bike camped there before.
I need to get a geared bike together asap, my knees are not having this level of fixed-ness.
TrikerTrev
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:01 am
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I second that i-der
maybe I can bring my better half...the one that thinks we're all fucking retarded for riding 100+.
pete jr
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:12 am
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i'd think it'd be cool to go somewhere that doesn't require a ferry trip to get to, in order to get more riding in. but i'm down with any and all of the above.
mork the delayer
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:32 am
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TrikerTrev wrote:
I second that i-der
maybe I can bring my better half...the one that thinks we're all fucking retarded for riding 100+.
100+? when was that?
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joeball
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:05 am
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pete jr wrote:
i'd think it'd be cool to go somewhere that doesn't require a ferry trip to get to, in order to get more riding in. but i'm down with any and all of the above.
I think the concept of the s24o is to make due with what you have and in most cases the limiting factor is time. Most of us get weekends off but there are typically some domestic responsibilities to be tended to during part of that time. The idea is to get out and get a ride in, a camp-cooked meal and sleep outside when otherwise you may not. The ferry rides help because the get you the heck out of dodge quickly.
Adding some riding is fine but I'd still opt for quality over quantity in many cases. Bypassing the suburbs is kind of nice. I wish there were more multiple bike capable mass-transit options to help with this, especially heading East. I'm looking into possibly using the Sounder to head north or south. That would require leaving a tad early on Friday to accommodate and would result in a longer ride home on Saturday (unless it was linked with a sporting event return train) I'll look into this for something around the solstice when there is still a lot of light to play with.
Fay Bainbridge just a 6 mile ride after the ferry, pretty cool. I think I need to find a Friday to do this on soon, not sure of the density of trees for hammock setups though.
dashap
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:49 am
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While you guys were riding west this weekend, I went north, to Arlington. Took about 5 hours, and a whole chunk of it was on the Centennial Trail, which is really nice, albeit very flat. Outside of Snohomish, there's a place called Flowing Lake State Park; it looks like it has camping. Anyone been there?
joeball
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 12:09 pm
Joined: 24 Jul 2005Posts: 6037Location: Ether
dashap wrote:
While you guys were riding west this weekend, I went north, to Arlington. Took about 5 hours, and a whole chunk of it was on the Centennial Trail, which is really nice, albeit very flat. Outside of Snohomish, there's a place called Flowing Lake State Park; it looks like it has camping. Anyone been there?
Dave or others, do you have a gmaps route that shows this trail and how one would get from the BG trail?
TrikerTrev
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 12:11 pm
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mork the delayer wrote:
TrikerTrev wrote:
I second that i-der
maybe I can bring my better half...the one that thinks we're all fucking retarded for riding 100+.
100+? when was that?
lets see...roughly 40 there, 40 back, and to and from my home (oh and thru BALLARD to get my shit).
gsbarnes
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 12:56 pm
Joined: 15 Aug 2006Posts: 2666Location: No Fun Town, USA
joeball wrote:
dashap wrote:
While you guys were riding west this weekend, I went north, to Arlington. Took about 5 hours, and a whole chunk of it was on the Centennial Trail, which is really nice, albeit very flat. Outside of Snohomish, there's a place called Flowing Lake State Park; it looks like it has camping. Anyone been there?
Dave or others, do you have a gmaps route that shows this trail and how one would get from the BG trail?
Once you're in Snohomish, getting to the Centennial Trail is cake. Or so I've been told. Bob Hall certainly knows, as he takes this trail when biking to Bellingham.
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A quick, albeit bland, ride to a state park mit camping und fishing.
MikeOD
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 1:42 pm
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I really like this idea of doing overnighters. Looks like Flowing Lake is a county park. There aren't many state parks that are feasible for "quick" overnighters where we're hauling all our stuff, but county or regional parks may provide more options. Preferrably parks which have a secluded group site, so we'll be welcome back.
I've biked to Wallace Falls state park for an overnighter. The ride is nice up through Monroe and then a short bit on Highway 2. It's more like 60-70 miles though. The sites are under power lines, there aren't many of them, and I don't know if there is a group site where we could get away from the main cluster of sites.
Actually bike camping at Fort Casey was pretty good the one time we went there. We camped in the day-use picnic area, which is what the ranger I talked with on the phone told us to do. It's up above the main hideous drive-in "camping" area. The picnic area is large and was totally deserted by the time we rolled in late in the afternoon. If we were allowed to camp there as a group we probably wouldn't bother anyone.
South Whidbey is ok too, but maybe not as good for a large group. There are hiker/biker sites in the woods a little ways away from the main camping area. It's a few miles closer than Fort Casey. Haven't been to Fort Ebey.
Riding straight up the highway on Whidbey is not exactly fun, but the shoulder is wide and hills are more friendly than the more scenic and longer route. Because of the mileage these are options for 30+ hour trips. If there is a park we could use on the very south end of Whidbey that might be better.
A quick, albeit bland, ride to a state park mit camping und fishing.
That looks promising.
langston
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:09 pm
Joined: 25 Jul 2005Posts: 5547Location: Columbia City
joeball wrote:
dashap wrote:
While you guys were riding west this weekend, I went north, to Arlington. Took about 5 hours, and a whole chunk of it was on the Centennial Trail, which is really nice, albeit very flat. Outside of Snohomish, there's a place called Flowing Lake State Park; it looks like it has camping. Anyone been there?
Dave or others, do you have a gmaps route that shows this trail and how one would get from the BG trail?
used to go there when I was a kid living in Monroe. The lake is warm and tastes(ed) somewhat like pee. The lake is also surrounded by private housing, so we would probably get a some noise issues.
Joe
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:13 pm
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langston wrote:
tastes(ed) somewhat like pee.
Ain't nothing like the real thing, huh Langston?
Alex
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:46 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006Posts: 3128Location: Roosevelt
pete jr wrote:
i'd think it'd be cool to go somewhere that doesn't require a ferry trip to get to, in order to get more riding in. but i'm down with any and all of the above.
The 30 minute ferry trip across to Bainbridge or Vashon Island is worth more than an hours worth of riding in terms of getting to rural areas.
I like the idea of a Friday night S24O, you can kick off the weekend nicely and have the rest of the weekend for weekend stuff. I think we can go more than 6 miles though. If we meet at 6 and start riding at 7 then we can do a good hour and a half of riding before setting up camp (especially between now and July). Thats 15-20 miles.
I think Whidbey or some of the other parks near Aldrich Lake are good options.
alex
MikeOD
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:13 pm
Joined: 04 Feb 2006Posts: 545
Anyone ever been to Possession Point park on the south tip of Whidbey? Can't find much about it. This page calls it a state park, but I think it's actually a county park. It says there are a few campsites.
lantius
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:07 pm
1337Joined: 22 Jul 2005Posts: 6705Location: right over
i've also been looking up on a bit of dispersed camping information. on most usfs and blm land there are areas where you can camp for free (legally!) as long as you stay less than 14 days and it's not an established campground. there's a good chunk of the mount baker-snoqualmie national forest within range of us, and if we're willing to use the sounder to everett on a friday afternoon and then hump it back we get even more range to the north.
as far as the bainbridge idea, of course i'm up for all kinds of plans with more miles, i'm just pondering that one with some folks who are not convinced at how cool it could be. plus, it's one that i could even do on a weeknight, if i'm willing to be a little smelly at work. (i am).
Alex
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:57 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006Posts: 3128Location: Roosevelt
The harder part about free camping on USFS land is finding good spots. It's nice to at least have access to a creek (for water) and some open land to pitch tents.
MikeOD -- Possession Point sounds interesting. It looks like the campground might be part of the Cascade Marine Trail. I don't know if that makes it open to anyone or only those in kayaks.
A quick, albeit bland, ride to a state park mit camping und fishing.
Is anybody interested in doing this tomorrow?
Alex
Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:37 am
Joined: 18 May 2006Posts: 3128Location: Roosevelt
Is that to Kanasket Palmer State Park?
I can't go tomorrow (or next weekend), but I'm interested in doing this on a Friday. I could ride down from work (probably around 40 miles) and then ride the same distance home in the morning.
alex
the dreaded ben
Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 12:02 pm
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on a totally non related thought, anyone want to climb st helen's this weekend?
it's the last weekend you can before having to get one of those nonfuckingexistant, plan 6 years in advance, give the ranger a blowjob kind of climbing passes.
A quick, albeit bland, ride to a state park mit camping und fishing.
Is anybody interested in doing this tomorrow?
Oh well, perhaps sometime later.
dennyt
Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 11:45 pm
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the dreaded ben wrote:
on a totally non related thought, anyone want to climb st helen's this weekend?
Damn, I should read this forum some time. Good to see ya for... 5 minutes.
Alex
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:50 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006Posts: 3128Location: Roosevelt
Okay Lee, why are both BBCode and HTML not working even though it says they are on?)
A couple of other S24O ideas.
Andre should like this one. I don't know if it's legal to camp there, but if we aren't too loud (who, point83?) and use hammocks I bet it wouldn't be a big deal. Banner Forest, not too far from the Southworth Ferry:
Banner Forest
Nearby is Manchester State Park ... this one is legit but not free:
Manchester State Park
I've been trying to find more places like the DNR land that Ben found, but without much luck. There are a number of similar locations in the same area around Tahuya, but it would be nice to have more variations in routes.
I haven't started looking east yet, even though it is probably the easiest option for me if I start from work.
alex
lantius
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:57 pm
1337Joined: 22 Jul 2005Posts: 6705Location: right over
the snoqualmie middle fork is probably one of the best places in the east, i've hiked up there a bit. plenty of miles on forest service road and dispersed camping.
right now i'm kind of looking at tolt macdonald park as an option this weekend. not the furthest out in the wilderness but it looks cool. campground camping is expensive though, gosh!
joeball
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 2:29 pm
Joined: 24 Jul 2005Posts: 6037Location: Ether
[quote="Alex"]
Banner Forest, not too far from the Southworth Ferry:
Banner Forest
I have a co-worker that lives over there, I'll ask if he knows what the goings on are in this DNR square are, its about a square mile. The access from all 4 sides makes me guess the local trails are pretty well used and a camp would be easily stumbled upon. Not that would really matter I suppose. There are handful of perma-tents in the Duwamish Greenbelt but I just give them space and keep on my way. A smaller group will definitely be more low profile.
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lantius wrote:
the snoqualmie middle fork is probably one of the best places in the east, i've hiked up there a bit. plenty of miles on forest service road and dispersed camping.
right now i'm kind of looking at tolt macdonald park as an option this weekend. not the furthest out in the wilderness but it looks cool. campground camping is expensive though, gosh!
This place gets full super quick on the weekends so make sure you get there early. It is kind of neat, that's where we had all our church picnics when i was a kid. The suspension bridge is pretty awesome.
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Joe wrote:
Anybody up for one of these next weekend (6/9)?
I think I have a wedding to go to 6/9, but we pick a place sufficiently close then I'm game. I've even cleaned out my water filter, re-packed the tent, and found the other random bits of gear I had scattered across the house. All I need now is to borrow/buy some panniers.
lantius
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 4:12 pm
1337Joined: 22 Jul 2005Posts: 6705Location: right over
rlotz wrote:
I think I have a wedding to go to 6/9, but we pick a place sufficiently close then I'm game. I've even cleaned out my water filter, re-packed the tent, and found the other random bits of gear I had scattered across the house. All I need now is to borrow/buy some panniers.
bucket panniers!
rlotz
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 4:15 pm
Joined: 23 Jan 2006Posts: 311Location: Capitol Hill
lantius wrote:
bucket panniers!
That's what I was thinking. I should stop being lazy and build some like you did. They would go well with my eventual plan to build the perfect (for me) grocery hauling bike.
lantius
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 4:50 pm
1337Joined: 22 Jul 2005Posts: 6705Location: right over
rlotz wrote:
That's what I was thinking. I should stop being lazy and build some like you did. They would go well with my eventual plan to build the perfect (for me) grocery hauling bike.
i wish i would have taken photos of the last pair i assembled but i was in a rush. it's pretty easy to figure out but pictures always help.
if anybody else is curious as to my recipe, the panniers i've made were based on this design.
four gallon square bucket ($2.50) from hardwicks.
2x tarp/rope hooks ($1.29 ea) from stone way. i bent them in my vice to make the radius a little smaller.
4x 7mm x 10mm metric cap bolts, nuts, and washer. ($0.56 ea)
two-pack 12" bungee cords ($1.34) from hardwicks. one for hooking to the bottom of the rack and one for holding the lid down.
total cost: $8.66 per pannier. plus about 15-20 minutes to assemble.
assembly is pretty much like he describes. the buckets from hardwicks have a bigger flange that you have to cut a hole through to put the hooks on, but the end result is nice and lets the top of the bucket sit flush with the rack making a nice platform.
Joe
Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 7:02 pm
Joined: 15 Feb 2007Posts: 430
lantius wrote:
rlotz wrote:
That's what I was thinking. I should stop being lazy and build some like you did. They would go well with my eventual plan to build the perfect (for me) grocery hauling bike.
i wish i would have taken photos of the last pair i assembled but i was in a rush. it's pretty easy to figure out but pictures always help.
if anybody else is curious as to my recipe, the panniers i've made were based on this design.
four gallon square bucket ($2.50) from hardwicks.
2x tarp/rope hooks ($1.29 ea) from stone way. i bent them in my vice to make the radius a little smaller.
4x 7mm x 10mm metric cap bolts, nuts, and washer. ($0.56 ea)
two-pack 12" bungee cords ($1.34) from hardwicks. one for hooking to the bottom of the rack and one for holding the lid down.
total cost: $8.66 per pannier. plus about 15-20 minutes to assemble.
assembly is pretty much like he describes. the buckets from hardwicks have a bigger flange that you have to cut a hole through to put the hooks on, but the end result is nice and lets the top of the bucket sit flush with the rack making a nice platform.
That's cool, Lee. In fact, you've inspired me to throw a couple of these together this weekend. Now, are you game for next weekend or not?
Alex
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:27 am
Joined: 18 May 2006Posts: 3128Location: Roosevelt
Joe wrote:
Anybody up for one of these next weekend (6/9)?
I might, where are you thinking about going?
alex
Alex
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:29 am
Joined: 18 May 2006Posts: 3128Location: Roosevelt
lantius wrote:
four gallon square bucket ($2.50) from hardwicks.
Tweedy and Pop's (the hardware store on 45th in Wallingford) normally sells these for closer to $1.
The ideal ones are slightly translucent, not the opaque white ones. They are made of a different plastic that is a little less brittle. They are harder to find.
alex
Joe
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:24 am
Joined: 15 Feb 2007Posts: 430
Alex wrote:
Joe wrote:
Anybody up for one of these next weekend (6/9)?
I might, where are you thinking about going?
alex
I don't have anyplace in particular in mind. To be honest, I was hoping someone else would suggest a destination.
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