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Alastair
Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 7:18 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 475 Location: U-district/Ravenna

There's a bike in my work garage that needs liberating. It's been down there as long as I've had my job (approx 3 years). It's been sitting down there long enough that the tires are starting to look rotten and someone took the pedals last year. I'll let you guys discuss the ethics of liberation while I present the details.

Location: Century Square parking garage (accessible from Pike between 3rd & 4th)

Lock: 1 cable lock with 4-number combination

Bike:

Yeti full suspension frame (I don't know the size) yellow/green
Yeti handlebars, grips, and seatpost anodized blue
Raceface forged cranks anodized red
Chris King green anodized headset
Sun Ringle hubs on the wheelset
beat up avocet saddle
I forgot to check components but I seem to remember it being Shimano Deore XT

The Catch: There is a parking garage attendant working about 20 feet from the bike rack.
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ksep
Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 7:25 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 1879 Location: Westlake

It has two crankarms, right? Didn't some guy with one leg have a Yeti stolen from him at the UW?


I bet that parking booth dude is only there as long as it's a full service garage. What about after 9 or 10pm? Not like you were going to ride it out of there and past the attendant with the tires in that state and no pedals anyway.

Too bad you haven't casually been trying 15 combinations a work day for the last 3 years -- it'd be yours by now.

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Alastair
Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 1:48 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 475 Location: U-district/Ravenna

Yep, two crankarms. I might talk with the security guards and see if they'll let me liberate it with a pair of bolt cutters.
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Aaron
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:27 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 4645

there are those that will never forgive you if you steal a bike.
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ksep
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 10:59 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 1879 Location: Westlake

For the first time tonight I had to leave my bike in a garage until the morning because I didn't want to ride it home in the pouring rain.

/ nervously hopes she's still there in the morning
// would be very sad if it were gone
/// she's never been away from home on a sleepover for the night!

Anyone know how long lost metro transit bikes stay at bikestation or what happens to them after that time is up? At some point salvage laws must kick in, right?

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Aaron
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 12:04 am Reply with quote
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 4645

abamfici wrote:
For the first time tonight I had to leave my bike in a garage until the morning because I didn't want to ride it home in the pouring rain.

/ nervously hopes she's still there in the morning
// would be very sad if it were gone
/// she's never been away from home on a sleepover for the night!

Anyone know how long lost metro transit bikes stay at bikestation or what happens to them after that time is up? At some point salvage laws must kick in, right?


As former proprietor of Bikestation Seattle and the person in charge of the Metro Lost Bikes, I will give you the scoop:

Bikes left on busses are brought almost daily into the Bikestation. Then after 2 months the bus driver that found them may claim them. If no one or no bus driver claims them, then they are donated to chairity (Bike Works, Sharing Wheels, etc). Bikestation is not allowed to store them in the parking racks, but they do sometimes, because there are just so many left. 4 or 5 per day!

My favorite story is the day after Hempfest when we had 17 lost (er, forgotten) bikes come in the door!

Perhaps the Seattle Automobile parking/abandonment law should apply to bikes. No vehicle may be left (parked) in a public right of way for more than 72 hours without being moved.

Public spaces are for everyone to use, not store private property.

So, if you see a bike locked on a street for 3 days, and not move, on the fourth day, you can liberate it right? Maybe not....

Anyway, you get my point.

Bikes locked on private property can and should be able to be left, locked, or unlocked, indefinitely.
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ksep
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:21 am Reply with quote
Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 1879 Location: Westlake

Cool, thanks for the info Aaron.

I'd love to see what happens if I liberate a car just because it's been parked on a residential street in the same spot for 4 days. I'm sure I would soon be calling a lawyer to liberate me from jail, ha!

I'm not sure how I feel about salvaging bikes from public places yet (3 years certainly sounds long enough), but Aaron makes a good point about private property.

With a car sitting in public the police can contact the registered/licensed owner. No such luck with a bicycle, but if it's on private property you can contact the owner of the property and work something out.

Talking to the garage owners is probably the best option.

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Remington
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:38 am Reply with quote
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 457 Location: Remington Country

abamfici wrote:
Too bad you haven't casually been trying 15 combinations a work day for the last 3 years -- it'd be yours by now.
I think it would be more like 4 years, as a lot of those locks also include decimals in addition to the 10 digits. But that's besides the point.

Just steal it already! I know you want to. Do it. I dare you. I double dare you. What? You don't want to? Chicken! Chicken! Bu-bu-bu-bukaahhh! Bu-bu-bukah! Chicken... I knew you wouldn't do it.


Pussy.
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Joe
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:57 am Reply with quote
Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 430

Remington wrote:
abamfici wrote:
Too bad you haven't casually been trying 15 combinations a work day for the last 3 years -- it'd be yours by now.
I think it would be more like 4 years, as a lot of those locks also include decimals in addition to the 10 digits. But that's besides the point.

Just steal it already! I know you want to. Do it. I dare you. I double dare you. What? You don't want to? Chicken! Chicken! Bu-bu-bu-bukaahhh! Bu-bu-bukah! Chicken... I knew you wouldn't do it.


Pussy.


This forum has just gotten too nasty for any civilized person to bear. I've had it!!

ps-just kidding.
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the dreaded ben
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:13 am Reply with quote
Grumpy Greeb Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 5329 Location: flavor country

the only question is: is the owner coming back?
if not, just fucking steal it already.

do it completely straight forward in the middle of the day and if the security guard walks up and asks you wtf, just tell him it's you long forgotten bike. and you lost the key, or forgot the combo.

he won't bat an eye.

and stop all this bullshit about "liberation." you sound like word mincing republican trash.
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Aaron
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 10:30 am Reply with quote
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 4645

but bikes need to be free, man!
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TrikerTrev
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:37 am Reply with quote
Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 2303 Location: FOCO, MOFO!!!

the dreaded ben wrote:

do it completely straight forward in the middle of the day and if the security guard walks up and asks you wtf, just tell him it's you long forgotten bike. and you lost the key, or forgot the combo.



Thats what i'd do. How the fuck is dufus gonna know the difference? Same would be true if you were to liber...fuck it...steal a car!
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Remington
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:42 am Reply with quote
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 457 Location: Remington Country

TrikerTrev wrote:
Thats what i'd do. How the fuck is dufus gonna know the difference? Same would be true if you were to liber...fuck it...steal a car!
Cars don't need to be liberated, they need to be destroyed. Duh.
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