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henry wrote:
I sent the guy an email a couple weeks ago when i first saw this story, oddly enough he never replied ...
He's probably got a backlog of texting that he needs to do the next time he goes for a drive.
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TrikerTrev
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 12:08 pm
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looks like his defense is a poorly designed road, not his shitty driving habits.
I bet the choadchewer gets a few years and a bullshit fine...for KILLING a PERSON with his car.
Bet!
I love the quote "I didn't see him in the roadway at any time prior to seeing him lying in the street.". No kidding? Is ignorance defendable?
oh, and this...
"Court records show that he was driving on the wrong side of the road when he hit a bicyclist in May 2005.
The head-on crash on Interlaken Drive East caused Ilsa Govan, of Seattle, to fly over his vehicle and land about 20 feet from the road.
She required stitches and needed physical therapy.
"I was very lucky I didn't hit any trees on the way down," she said."
rlotz
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 12:11 pm
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The closest I've come to being hit by a car was on Interlaken. Some jack off in a taxi was going around a blind corner on the wrong side of the road. Lucky for me we were both going slow and saw me in time to move back to his side. How do we get tougher driver laws enacted /and/ enforced?
henry
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 12:17 pm
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I got hit by an aged cow driving a minivan while i was walking to work.
She was doing the look left and creep forward at the stop sign bit, rolled in to me at approx .75 mph.
I slammed two fists on her hood and i think she needed a change of depends.
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Cabs and people pulling out of parking spaces are the bane of most of my rides (unless I'm on the Burke, then it's people with chaotic dogs and OTHER CYCLISTS). I haven't had to yet, but I'm prepared for the day when I must punch and/or kick a cab to let them know they're about to kill me.
Also, people who swerve suddenly (like there's a gradual swerve) to the right - into the turn lane - to entertain their whimsical turning urges at intersections. They just assume that there's nobody there.
Anyway, enough of my nonconstructive babbling. Sounds like somebody should have their license revoked and/or some jail time. I'm constantly blown away by how many people listen to their walkmans or iPods or whatever while driving, highly dangerous and almost definitely illegal. Then the people who talk on their phones while driving, then the ones who talk on their phones and drive ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD.
I heard somebody at the DMV say once, "The City will give a license to anybody. I expect to see dogs and monkeys and shit behind the wheel any time now."
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dennyt
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 8:52 pm
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Update - yeah, that's the same Ilsa (1st lady at the FHR this year).
Aaron
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:07 pm
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cell phones are a right, right?
I really am bothered by the folks that walk around with a phone in their ear.
Are we really that important?!
Those crazy fools at Myth Busters are, of course TV fools, but none the less:
Talking on a cell phone in Washington will be illegal as of next July. However, it is a secondary offence. Like if you get pulled over for running a red light. I am sure they will be able to prove you were on the phone, right! Hands-free devices are not applicable, even though it is the conversation on the phone that pulls your mind away, NOT the use of a handheld phone.
Shaun
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:45 pm
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TrikerTrev wrote:
looks like his defense is a poorly designed road, not his shitty driving habits.
I bet the choadchewer gets a few years and a bullshit fine...for KILLING a PERSON with his car.
Unfortunately, the most this fucker *can* get under the bullshit negligent driving laws we have is 1 year and a $5000 fine.
alyson
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:35 am
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dennyt wrote:
Update - yeah, that's the same Ilsa (1st lady at the FHR this year).
Yeah, Same Ilsa.
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:42 am
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Aaron wrote:
Hands-free devices are not applicable, even though it is the conversation on the phone that pulls your mind away, NOT the use of a handheld phone.
I haven't looked up the law since I'm about to run out the door, but I thought the bill which passed allowed the use of a hands free device.
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joeball
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:44 am
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SeditiousCanary wrote:
Aaron wrote:
Hands-free devices are not applicable, even though it is the conversation on the phone that pulls your mind away, NOT the use of a handheld phone.
I haven't looked up the law since I'm about to run out the door, but I thought the bill which passed allowed the use of a hands free device.
not applicable in terms of being illegal
Aaron
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:08 am
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joeball wrote:
SeditiousCanary wrote:
Aaron wrote:
Hands-free devices are not applicable, even though it is the conversation on the phone that pulls your mind away, NOT the use of a handheld phone.
I haven't looked up the law since I'm about to run out the door, but I thought the bill which passed allowed the use of a hands free device.
not applicable in terms of being illegal
Right, but it isn't the holding of the phone that is the problem. It is silly that they are making laws that do not address the problem. For some reason, talking via telephone to someone, while driving takes your mind away from your present situation. You literally "go there" in your mind. The same does not happen when you are talking to someone in the passenger seat. You may "go there" too, but you are still in the car!
The impairment is not physical it is mental.
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:06 pm
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Aaron wrote:
The impairment is not physical it is mental.
You are suggesting that it is not possible for the human brain to multitask without some loss of efficiency that could prevent one from operating heavy machinery safely. A simple phone conversation with a client, family member or friend could cause this impairment but listening to music, news or sports on the radio would not?
I don't necessarily disagree with this concept but what level of mental impairment would constitute an illegal use of too little of the old gray matter? .08 BAC, cell phone calls, Ozzy Osbourne...
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:18 pm
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:12 pm
Joined: 15 Aug 2006Posts: 2666Location: No Fun Town, USA
Aaron wrote:
joeball wrote:
SeditiousCanary wrote:
Aaron wrote:
Hands-free devices are not applicable, even though it is the conversation on the phone that pulls your mind away, NOT the use of a handheld phone.
I haven't looked up the law since I'm about to run out the door, but I thought the bill which passed allowed the use of a hands free device.
not applicable in terms of being illegal
Right, but it isn't the holding of the phone that is the problem. It is silly that they are making laws that do not address the problem. For some reason, talking via telephone to someone, while driving takes your mind away from your present situation. You literally "go there" in your mind. The same does not happen when you are talking to someone in the passenger seat. You may "go there" too, but you are still in the car!
The impairment is not physical it is mental.
I think a lot of the problem also depends on the other person on the line not knowing what's going on. When I'm a passenger in a car, and the driving gets hairy, I know to shut up. The person at the other end of the phone does not.
Similarly, if you're ever driven with young kids, they are in the car, but they don't understand what's going on, and it's really, really, really distracting to have them keep asking you where you're going or whatnot when the traffic gets hairy. You'd think you could tune them out, but you just can't.
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Stanglor
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:17 pm
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gsbarnes wrote:
You'd think you could tune them out, but you just can't.
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TrikerTrev
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:19 pm
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Stanglor wrote:
gsbarnes wrote:
You'd think you could tune them out, but you just can't.
Something tells me that does not come in toddler sizes...
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