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How do you want people to react?

Point and laugh  
20%
  [ 6 ]  20%
 
Ask if you're okay  
20%
  [ 6 ]  20%
 
Act like nothing happened  
23%
  [ 7 ]  23%
 
Offer buttsex and taco truck Mexican food in the morning  
20%
  [ 6 ]  20%
 
Swayze!  
16%
  [ 5 ]  16%
 

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zuvembi
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:23 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 942 Location: Little Addis Ababa

Last week on my way home from work crossing Mercer Island, I stopped at a light next to another cyclist. He proceeded to topple over while trying to clip out of his Look pedals.

After watching to make sure he hadn't injured anything other than his pride, I proceeded to act like nothing happened.

I got to thinking about the times I had had clipless prat falls, and how I wish people had reacted.

When you fall over and make an ass of yourself in public, how do you want people to act?

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langston
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:27 pm Reply with quote
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Usually people just laugh at me, but then again it's usually .83'ers and I only fell over because of extensive intoxication.

I'm remebering back to a state pooper-trooper harassing me from his bullhorn when I fell over by Safeco a few weeks back. that was good times.
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lantius
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:28 pm Reply with quote
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i had the best slomo fall a while back when out riding with andre, he watched the guys across the intersections as their heads tilted over to watch me fall. it was pretty embarassing.
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henry
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:35 pm Reply with quote
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A proud tradition!

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joeball
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:36 pm Reply with quote
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langston wrote:
I only fell over because of extensive intoxication.


*cough* bullshit *cough*
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joeball
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:39 pm Reply with quote
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lantius wrote:
i had the best slomo fall a while back when out riding with andre, he watched the guys across the intersections as their heads tilted over to watch me fall. it was pretty embarassing.


to be fair that was the time your seatpost failed though right? so you kind of fell off the bike but your feet were still attached. I really did miss it since you were just behind me. The two guys across the street moved their heads in unison then both winced when you landed. I looked back and say you pinned by your bike.
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alyson
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 2:37 pm Reply with quote
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langston wrote:

I'm remebering back to a state pooper-trooper harassing me from his bullhorn when I fell over by Safeco a few weeks back. that was good times.


Sure was.

Pooper-trooper: "DID YOU KNOW THAT'S A DUI? YOU BEEN DRINKING?"

Langston and about eight other .83ers: "Nah! It's the clips! It's the clips!"

That kind of shit always happens to us in SoDo...

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zuvembi
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 2:56 pm Reply with quote
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henry wrote:
http://blogs.citypages.com/jwalsh/images/PatrickSwayze-799672%5B1%5D.jpg

A proud tradition!

/me takes his 40 of Rainer and pours some for his dead homies Scotty.

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lantius
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 4:10 pm Reply with quote
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alyson wrote:
Pooper-trooper: "DID YOU KNOW THAT'S A DUI? YOU BEEN DRINKING?"

ha, it is not a DUI though.
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derrickito
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 4:12 pm Reply with quote
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ive talked to some copper friends of mine while they were off duty... they think that they can give bikes DUI's, they didnt have a clue. not many people know about that WA state law that gives us a loophole.
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joeball
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 4:32 pm Reply with quote
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Yeah like we have noted before it varies by state and in some places it is a DUI. The cop is not the one to argue that with though, save it for a judge. I've pretty much made up my mind that whatever assumptions driver, peds, cops, cyclists have about rules of the road or laws when they go out are not going to change on the road.
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Aaron
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:20 pm Reply with quote
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joeball wrote:
Yeah like we have noted before it varies by state and in some places it is a DUI. The cop is not the one to argue that with though, save it for a judge. I've pretty much made up my mind that whatever assumptions driver, peds, cops, cyclists have about rules of the road or laws when they go out are not going to change on the road.


Actually, the cop has to list an RCW or KCHC, etc. when they ticket you, otherwise the ticket is null and void and you can ignore it.

As for riding drunk, well it is not illegal.

Please everyone, STOP, guessing the law and just look it up. RCW, hello!


RCW 46.61.790
Intoxicated bicyclists.

(1) A law enforcement officer may offer to transport a bicycle rider who appears to be under the influence of alcohol or any drug and who is walking or moving along or within the right of way of a public roadway, unless the bicycle rider is to be taken into protective custody under RCW 70.96A.120. The law enforcement officer offering to transport an intoxicated bicycle rider under this section shall:

(a) Transport the intoxicated bicycle rider to a safe place; or

(b) Release the intoxicated bicycle rider to a competent person.

(2) The law enforcement officer shall not provide the assistance offered if the bicycle rider refuses to accept it. No suit or action may be commenced or prosecuted against the law enforcement officer, law enforcement agency, the state of Washington, or any political subdivision of the state for any act resulting from the refusal of the bicycle rider to accept this assistance.

(3) The law enforcement officer may impound the bicycle operated by an intoxicated bicycle rider if the officer determines that impoundment is necessary to reduce a threat to public safety, and there are no reasonable alternatives to impoundment. The bicyclist will be given a written notice of when and where the impounded bicycle may be reclaimed. The bicycle may be reclaimed by the bicycle rider when the bicycle rider no longer appears to be intoxicated, or by an individual who can establish ownership of the bicycle. The bicycle must be returned without payment of a fee. If the bicycle is not reclaimed within thirty days, it will be subject to sale or disposal consistent with agency procedures.
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rlotz
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:40 pm Reply with quote
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Aaron wrote:
Please everyone, STOP, guessing the law and just look it up. RCW, hello!


I've read that, however I don't see where it explicitly states that the cop MUST NOT issue you a DUI. It says an officer MAY do a bunch of nice stuff for you, which I read as "optional". Of course, I don't know if the RCWs follow RFC 2119 style key words. Has anyone actually tried to test this is court?
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dennyt
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:52 pm Reply with quote
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This Article says a conviction was overturned, which set precedent:
Quote:
In summary, the appellate court's interpretations of the intent of the legislature, of statute wording, and of public policy did not support the trial court's conclusion that RCW 46.60.502 was meant to include bicyclists. Consequently, the appeals court reversed Wells' DUI conviction.
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Joe
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:32 am Reply with quote
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rlotz wrote:
Aaron wrote:
Please everyone, STOP, guessing the law and just look it up. RCW, hello!


I've read that, however I don't see where it explicitly states that the cop MUST NOT issue you a DUI. It says an officer MAY do a bunch of nice stuff for you, which I read as "optional". Of course, I don't know if the RCWs follow RFC 2119 style key words. Has anyone actually tried to test this is court?


The list describes things that the officer may do instead of nothing at all when dealing with a drunk cyclist. If the officer doesn't do one of them, then they can't legally do anything else, provided that the cyclist isn't doing something other than just riding around drunk. The law couldn't possibly spell out all of the things an officer must not do in every circumstance, only what they can do.

In any case, it's irrelevant, because if they want to ticket you, they're going to, no matter what the law says.
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Aaron
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:13 am Reply with quote
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 4645

Joe wrote:
In any case, it's irrelevant, because if they want to ticket you, they're going to, no matter what the law says.


Now that is true! My friend Val (Bikesmith) got a ticket in Renton. The cops there seem to want to pull him over for riding in the road. He once got a ticket and the cop made up an RCW! MADE IT UP! The judge did throw it out, but still!
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pete jr
Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 11:45 am Reply with quote
Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 1930 Location: balls deepx

i distinctly remember a conversation with a drunk ass outside of the mustard seed (who was a cop) involving him telling us all that if he was on duty, we'd all get DUIs. then we left. good times.
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chunts
Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 12:49 am Reply with quote
Joined: 18 May 2007 Posts: 85 Location: Cappy

rlotz wrote:
Aaron wrote:
Please everyone, STOP, guessing the law and just look it up. RCW, hello!


I've read that, however I don't see where it explicitly states that the cop MUST NOT issue you a DUI. It says an officer MAY do a bunch of nice stuff for you, which I read as "optional". Of course, I don't know if the RCWs follow RFC 2119 style key words. Has anyone actually tried to test this is court?


my roomate is an EMT, and had a conversation with a city prosecuter and a sheriff, because he was convinced cyclists could get DUIs. both of the other guys told him he was wrong.
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TrikerTrev
Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 7:36 am Reply with quote
Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 2303 Location: FOCO, MOFO!!!

maybe the point being missed here is this little technicality called "probable cause".

This opens the door for all sorts of trouble, whether justified or not.

I'm not caffeinated enough to go into details, but those of you who have intimate dealings with the police KNOW that once they can justify a reason to stop you then it's all over but the cryin!
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