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wingedc0w
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:26 pm Reply with quote
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So, Fairview/Valley street, railroad tracks, heavy traffic. Two pinch flats in a month, safety issue. Who/where the fuck do I complain?

Thanks.
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ksep
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:05 pm Reply with quote
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206-386-1218 for street cleaning and repair

edit: erm 206-684-7508 for north of denny way. the other number was what i had on file and how i found the webpage.

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rlotz
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:26 pm Reply with quote
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Unless it is a road debris or pot-hole issue I doubt you'll get much of a response from standard SDOT complaint channels like the Pot Hole Rangers or street cleaning. Valley/Fairview is a known hazard area with the tracks and traffic. I got the impression from May's SBAB meeting that it won't be addressed until the trolly is done and the mercer project begins. There are changes scheduled, but we're probably years away. One of the changes will be the extension of a MUP along valley. As I recall the master plan does not immediately address the area either.

If you want to raise a stink you could try the next SBAB meeting, or attempt to drum up a strong letter campaign. The best advice is to probably not ride it if the route isn't safe for you and your bike.

side note: The SDOT pot-hole rangers are great. They seem to respond to most reports within 48 hours!
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TrikerTrev
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:11 pm Reply with quote
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wingedc0w wrote:
So, Fairview/Valley street, railroad tracks, heavy traffic. Two pinch flats in a month, safety issue. Who/where the fuck do I complain?

Thanks.


You CANT be friggen serious? A whole whopping 2...in a month?

Wow!

Maybe you need to reconsider this whole bike thingy. Aarons throwin a wrench party tonight, maybe he could show ya the fine are of tire changing (like he did to my iimported friend at CM).
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TrikerTrev
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:14 pm Reply with quote
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BTW...

that is joking/sarcasm...just to make sure folks reading this (cough, aaron, cough-cough) don't get confused as me being a serious asshole.

Do tell us how the Mr. Complainy-Pants does.
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ksep
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:46 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 1879 Location: Westlake

Oh and what PSI do you inflate your tires to? Maximum pressure on the tire for the win!

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pete jr
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:59 pm Reply with quote
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i learned the above on the side of the highway on the way to poulsbo last week- not the best place to learn!
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Aaron
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:52 pm Reply with quote
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Our Seattle city government is so fucked up. I called SDOT to request street sweeping before Bike to Work Day at the west end of the lower west Seattle bridge, I called 3 times! Finally I was told that the Storm Water department, or some such dept. was responsible since it was a sidewalk and the problem was the "drainage ditches" along the path were clogged and flooding the sidewalk. Well, BTWD came and went, and nothing happend. Gregg, hand swept the entire path from the lower bridge to Delridge. Now who do we call for brush trimming?


What really gets me is that the city doesn't have any maintenance schedule for streets, sidewalks, public stair cases, bike lanes, bike trails, bike paths, multi-use paths, side streets, bridge sidewalks, etc. All of these facilities need sweeping and brush trimming and repair, much more than the streets. The benefit is much geater than actually sweeping the streets or repairing pot holes in the drive lane. Those are important too, but the city is basically doing nothing! The Pot Hole Rangers are nothing more than a publicity stunt! I once saw them repair a pot hole right next to some others, but the others were not reported, so they did not fix them!
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TrikerTrev
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:00 am Reply with quote
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Aaron wrote:
Our Seattle city government is so fucked up. I called SDOT to request street sweeping before Bike to Work Day at the west end of the lower west Seattle bridge, I called 3 times! Finally I was told that the Storm Water department, or some such dept. was responsible since it was a sidewalk and the problem was the "drainage ditches" along the path were clogged and flooding the sidewalk. Well, BTWD came and went, and nothing happend. Gregg, hand swept the entire path from the lower bridge to Delridge. Now who do we call for brush trimming?


What really gets me is that the city doesn't have any maintenance schedule for streets, sidewalks, public stair cases, bike lanes, bike trails, bike paths, multi-use paths, side streets, bridge sidewalks, etc. All of these facilities need sweeping and brush trimming and repair, much more than the streets. The benefit is much geater than actually sweeping the streets or repairing pot holes in the drive lane. Those are important too, but the city is basically doing nothing! The Pot Hole Rangers are nothing more than a publicity stunt! I once saw them repair a pot hole right next to some others, but the others were not reported, so they did not fix them!


you're supprised by this?

i'm supprised when they acctually DO anything!
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wingedc0w
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:47 am Reply with quote
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The MUP is a joke, at least the way it's going in now. You still have to cut across 4 lanes/wait for the crosswalk to get up 9th Ave. Lame.

Rear Wheel - Continental Gatorskin* - 700 x 25C ~120 - 125 PSI ( 8.27 - 8.62 BAR )

*With tuffy tire liner

South Lake Union Eats Balls Coming From Eastlake.
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Eric_s
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:52 am Reply with quote
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wingedc0w wrote:
The MUP is a joke, at least the way it's going in now. You still have to cut across 4 lanes/wait for the crosswalk to get up 9th Ave. Lame.

Rear Wheel - Continental Gatorskin* - 700 x 25C ~120 - 125 PSI ( 8.27 - 8.62 BAR )

*With tuffy tire liner

South Lake Union Eats Balls Coming From Eastlake.


Are you coming up from westlake or eastlake? You might be able to skip the mountain bike obstacle course which passes for roads in that area by cutting off westlake at 8th avenue and then jogging up to dexter at valley, which is what I do because I live on QA and I bomb the sidewalk on mercer.

I have cheap-o conti touring tires running 700Cx28, and I haven't got any pinch flats, though I've picked up nails.
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wingedc0w
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:07 am Reply with quote
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Heading Into Downtown

Ride it everyday... why am I bitching. Shit ain't going to get done about it.
Oh well.
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wingedc0w
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:13 am Reply with quote
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The blow out spot.

The semi-safe assertive route, where you get spit on and yelled at.
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joeball
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:14 am Reply with quote
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I concure Garth, that section bites and it is by design or lack there of, granted it is under construction but I don't know what the final design is suppose to look like. It is not about tire selection. I had an asshat encounter there recently. I was in the right lane of fairview, merging on to valley, slowly picking my way across that spagetti mess of tracks, Mr Jetta was impatiant hanked at my wf eand I for being in the lane and then intentionally came close to side swiping me as he passed, uhg. Humping up the eastlake hill past REI to Stewart seems like the route for now.
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derrickito
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:27 am Reply with quote
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joeball wrote:
Mr Jetta


*resembles*
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TrikerTrev
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:30 am Reply with quote
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joeball wrote:
I concure Garth, that section bites and it is by design or lack there of, granted it is under construction but I don't know what the final design is suppose to look like. It is not about tire selection. I had an asshat encounter there recently. I was in the right lane of fairview, merging on to valley, slowly picking my way across that spagetti mess of tracks, Mr Jetta was impatiant hanked at my wf eand I for being in the lane and then intentionally came close to side swiping me as he passed, uhg. Humping up the eastlake hill past REI to Stewart seems like the route for now.


easy fix...



nice piece of maple for asshats!
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joby
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:31 am Reply with quote
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joeball wrote:
I concure Garth, that section bites and it is by design or lack there of, granted it is under construction but I don't know what the final design is suppose to look like. It is not about tire selection. I had an asshat encounter there recently. I was in the right lane of fairview, merging on to valley, slowly picking my way across that spagetti mess of tracks, Mr Jetta was impatiant hanked at my wf eand I for being in the lane and then intentionally came close to side swiping me as he passed, uhg. Humping up the eastlake hill past REI to Stewart seems like the route for now.


Horns are for emergencies. When a car honks, the safest thing to do is come to a complete stop, so you can figure out what the emergency is.
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Eric_s
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:35 am Reply with quote
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wingedc0w wrote:
Heading Into Downtown

Ride it everyday... why am I bitching. Shit ain't going to get done about it.
Oh well.


Yeah, that whole stretch is awful. I try to avoid it even though it's often the easiest way for me to get from east to west or vice-versa.

another way I've gone:
brutal hill, then stewart st

I just wonder what the city will do about the terrible traffic in that stretch. It was fun riding with CM through that area just because all the eastsiders driving into the city stared at bikers like we had 4 heads and were breathing fire.
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TrikerTrev
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:38 am Reply with quote
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Eric_s wrote:
It was fun riding with CM through that area just because all the eastsiders driving into the city stared at bikers like we had 4 heads and were breathing fire.


yeah...sorry about that...my bad!

(evil grin)
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Eric_s
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:40 am Reply with quote
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TrikerTrev wrote:
Eric_s wrote:
...were breathing fire.


yeah...sorry about that...my bad!

(evil grin)


At least your ass leads, so you get your beer farts first hand.
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john
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:00 pm Reply with quote
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Eric_s wrote:

another way I've gone:
brutal hill, then stewart st


Definitely Eric,
that's the *only* way I go...
I would go bonkers if I didn't get that hill in.
It really isn't that big of a hill though. A better hill route is up and around lakeview.
But going montlake up 23rd and then madison is the best hill route.

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Eric_s
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:19 pm Reply with quote
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john wrote:

Definitely Eric,
that's the *only* way I go...
I would go bonkers if I didn't get that hill in.
It really isn't that big of a hill though. A better hill route is up and around lakeview.
But going montlake up 23rd and then madison is the best hill route.


I see the up and around lakeview as more of a scenic route, especially if you take that trail that eventually hooks up to melrose...

I've "enjoyed" several variations on the montlake/24th/madison route, too, but those are good for the weekend, and not going to work. I'm lucky enough to ride down QA in the morning and up in the evening.
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MikeOD
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:39 pm Reply with quote
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I ride that stretch home every day from work, but I come down Fairview, around the lake, and up Westlake. Going around that bend is one of the few spots where I regularly ride on the sidewalk. There's construction and pedestrians and driveways to look out for, so I have to go slow, but it beats that deathtrap of an intersection. I'm usually pretty comfortable playing in traffic, but that area just blows.

Cutting across traffic to turn left on 9th (which I do on Thursdays if I'm not taking the Eastlake/Stewart route) can be hairy, I almost never make a legit left turn on 9th. I either cut straight across to the other sidewalk if there's an opening in traffic, or I stay to the right until I get to 9th and then wait with the 9th ave traffic for the light to change.
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adpowers
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:50 pm Reply with quote
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Hmm. I get in the left most lane while approaching that shitty section (aka, the bus/bike turn lane). Then I stay in the left most lane the whole time (the third lane from the right). The tracks aren't nearly as bad there (compared to the far right lane where I have to almost stop to cross the tracks).
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Aaron
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:11 pm Reply with quote
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joby wrote:
joeball wrote:
I concure Garth, that section bites and it is by design or lack there of, granted it is under construction but I don't know what the final design is suppose to look like. It is not about tire selection. I had an asshat encounter there recently. I was in the right lane of fairview, merging on to valley, slowly picking my way across that spagetti mess of tracks, Mr Jetta was impatiant hanked at my wf eand I for being in the lane and then intentionally came close to side swiping me as he passed, uhg. Humping up the eastlake hill past REI to Stewart seems like the route for now.


Horns are for emergencies. When a car honks, the safest thing to do is come to a complete stop, so you can figure out what the emergency is.


I totally agree! But you might get rear ended!
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