Joined: 24 Jul 2005Posts: 942Location: Little Addis Ababa
At my work, someone from facilities has decreed:
Quote:
FYI, effective immediately, please instruct your guards and rovers about these policies. No bikes allowed in the buildings. If someone ignores the policy, please let us know who it is and we can address it. No windshield repair companies etc allowed on campus.
So, my boss and some of the other bike commuters are trying to talk to them and either get us some decent facilities (indoor storage), some bike lockers, or relent and let us bring our bikes to our cubes.
I know Microsoft and Nintendo both let people bring their bikes to their cubes. What do other businesses in the area do?
Another thing, I know there is some sort of government program around alternate transportation planning. Does anyone have a link to where I should look for that?
Lastly: How much do the bike lockers cost (roughly)?
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applesauche
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:51 pm
Joined: 08 Oct 2006Posts: 337Location: Capitol Hill
none of the above!
this is how we do it:
my desk
we install hardware
what can i say, the executive director rides a bike
seth_seth
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:55 pm
Joined: 11 May 2007Posts: 92Location: Blard!
i work for fred hutch and they have a really great policies for bikes. there's sheltered outside racks all over the campus, bike cages in every garage, and i often see people wheeling their bikes into the buildings (presumably to there offices). they're also working on a new bike to work incentive program here. i'd say, in all, there's probably 300-500 people that bike in regularly.
applesauche
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:57 pm
Joined: 08 Oct 2006Posts: 337Location: Capitol Hill
oh, but i forgot to mention. i'm not a wage-slave, but worse! a salary-slave!
zuvembi
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:03 pm
Joined: 24 Jul 2005Posts: 942Location: Little Addis Ababa
applesauche wrote:
oh, but i forgot to mention. i'm not a wage-slave, but worse! a salary-slave!
Yes, yes, I'm a sarariman too. I don't have an office though. Nor a place to hang my bike.
Jealousy is an ugly emotion.
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TrikerTrev
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:10 pm
Joined: 23 Oct 2006Posts: 2303Location: FOCO, MOFO!!!
zuvembi wrote:
At my work, someone from facilities has decreed:
Quote:
FYI, effective immediately, please instruct your guards and rovers about these policies. No bikes allowed in the buildings. If someone ignores the policy, please let us know who it is and we can address it. No windshield repair companies etc allowed on campus.
So, my boss and some of the other bike commuters are trying to talk to them and either get us some decent facilities (indoor storage), some bike lockers, or relent and let us bring our bikes to our cubes.
I know Microsoft and Nintendo both let people bring their bikes to their cubes. What do other businesses in the area do?
I'll tell ya this;
After I got the trike I just started bringing it into the office and parking it next to a wall where there is plenty of room to get around it. I was told initially that I was not allowed to do this and I should lock it up outside (uncovered bike rack).
To which I told "them"..."you can kiss my ass, i'm not locking a 25 hundred dollar (not what I paid, but what it cost retail...don't get all fucking weird with me on that) bike in the rain. It's out of the way, does no harm and i'm saving you lazy bastards a parking place".
A year later my trike enjoys a dry, safe place about 20 feet from my cube-hell-space. Nobodies EVER bitched about it or touched it and nobodies EVER given me shit. Even better, I'm one of the buildings (hell, areas) disaster captains and someone ONCE mentioned that it could be in the way during an evacuation. To my response..."EVERYTHING is going to be in the way, use your damn eyes!"
Now it is true that bikes in an office environment can be a hazard (devils advocate here), but the reality is that a company that gives their employees VALID opportunities to reduce auto congestion, increase health, raise worker satisfaction will benefit in the long run financially. I'm surrounded by a thousand fat cows that cant take a single flight of stairs currently. Why do ya think med benefits are SO GAWDDAMNED high now? We're doing ourselves AND the company a favor by alt-commuting, why not kick back something...ANYTHING!
Funny thing here is that if I were to bus to work i'd get a yearly pass for FREE for whatever amount i deemed necessary for transfers...no questions asked. But for biking, I'd get a 10 (ten) dollar a month stipend and it would have to be approved (that I really rode) by my director (who has 0 time for that dumb shit). Whatever...i'm just happy to park the trike inside, bastards.
BTW I work for AT&T.
Joe
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:10 pm
Joined: 15 Feb 2007Posts: 430
applesauche wrote:
none of the above!
this is how we do it:
Your desk looks impressively messy. It would be as messy as mine, but it's not big enough.
I get to bring my bike inside, but only because I work off campus and don't have to abide the UWMC's absurd no bikes inside rule and outrageous lack of decent outdoor lockup space.
Alex
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:13 pm
Joined: 18 May 2006Posts: 3128Location: Roosevelt
zuvembi wrote:
I know Microsoft and Nintendo both let people bring their bikes to their cubes. What do other businesses in the area do?
I work at Microsoft.
For the almost 11 years that I've been here the rule on paper has been that you can't bring your bike into your office. You are supposed to lock it downstairs.
Most people do bring them into their offices. I have a little stub of hallway outside my office and park my bike there. My next door office neighbor does the same thing.
Luckily we don't have cubes here (in most parts of the company, some do).
mcrawfor
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:27 pm
Joined: 09 May 2006Posts: 1039Location: Ballard
Here at the UW a while ago we were told to stop bringing bikes inside. We just kept doing it, putting them in various places even when directly told to quit. Eventually, they put bikerack space for 15 bikes in the locked loading dock. Rad.
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MikeOD
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:35 pm
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I'm at the hutch too, very nice facilities. I lock to the indoor bike racks right next to the parking attendant's booth. We also have locker rooms with showers and towel service.
jeff
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:52 pm
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My company is actually really good about bikes. We have a bike cage with lights and a security code to get access.
They also provide two seperate shower facilities and locker rooms.
However, they don't exactly pay me in gold nuggets and baby pandas.
Bonus: we also have two ping pong tables.
UPDATE: They also provide discount bus passes for the year.
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bobhall
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:52 pm
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My work used to give me shit for bringing my bike into my office. Totally dumb. I get away with it now. Hell, I even ride around the office:
Trevor: Yeah, my work buys me a bus pass (I could also opt to have them subsidize a parking space, lol) and I never use it. There is no perk for riding your bike. The bus pass and parking space are worth $55, paid monthly. Non-bikers at work get that compensation put towards something they use. Bikers are fucked. I should get that $55 per month to donate to bike-promoting organizations such as .83 to spend as they see fit (ie, beer).
zuvembi
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:54 pm
Joined: 24 Jul 2005Posts: 942Location: Little Addis Ababa
Jeff and bobhall, where do you work?
jeff wrote:
Bonus: we also have two ping pong tables.
I officially loathe you now.
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derrickito
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:11 pm
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when i ride in, i carry mine up the steps, and plop it down in my spacious window office. then i stare at it longingly all day. only 3 people in my work though. one other guy here rides and he locks his to a tree.
seth_seth
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:15 pm
Joined: 11 May 2007Posts: 92Location: Blard!
MikeOD wrote:
I'm at the hutch too, very nice facilities. I lock to the indoor bike racks right next to the parking attendant's booth. We also have locker rooms with showers and towel service.
that's usually where i park, too. have we met yet? i'm still trying to match .83 names with .83 faces.
ksep
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:28 pm
Joined: 27 Jan 2007Posts: 1879Location: Westlake
* During odd hours I just take my bike thru the main doors, up the elevator, thru another door, and into my cube space. Security doesn't complain. In some ways this is annoying (open door w/ one hand, try not to hit anything w/ pedals, etc.) thus...
* During busy hours I lock up at Bikestation (4 blocks away). The short walk is a nice warm up / cool down.
* Work reimburses bicycle parking up to $80 a month, the same amount they reimburse for car parking. w00t!
* There's a locked bike cage in the parking garage (2 blocks away) within eyesight of the attendant, but stuff gets stolen from there so I avoid it entirely.
* Also some racks just outside the office, but I avoid them unless I'm running into work and back because I forgot something and I'll be away < 5 minutes.
/amazon international district offices
// likes trevor's "there's stuff everywhere, use your eyes!" logic
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mississippi
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:07 pm
Joined: 02 Feb 2007Posts: 258Location: cap hill
eh, when i ride my bike to work i hide it in the storage area. we house cars for people who buy them to say that they own something expensive and since nobody goes in there and it's covered it makes for good parking for me.
i only work 3 blocks from home, and the only bike i ride here is my bmx. can't see the sense in putting on the shoes and such to ride my allez 3 blocks.
since i started "riding in" i have 2 techs who do the same now too. one lives in lynwood and one in west seattle, so it's more of an accomplishment for them.
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applesauche
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:17 pm
Joined: 08 Oct 2006Posts: 337Location: Capitol Hill
derrickito wrote:
when i ride in, i carry mine up the steps, and plop it down in my spacious window office. then i stare at it longingly all day. only 3 people in my work though. one other guy here rides and he locks his to a tree.
Derrick, everyone knows you drive your car to work.
dennyt
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:15 pm
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Bike parking at rocketwerks:
rlotz
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:00 pm
Joined: 23 Jan 2006Posts: 311Location: Capitol Hill
Currently I wheel mine into my office, I used to park it in the secure indoor bike rack but stopped last summer when the rack started to get full.
I'm not sure what will happen when we become cubed in the new UW tower. It'd be sweet if the UW would give an entire floor over to bike parking and small repair. Like a UW specific bike station!
TrikerTrev
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:20 pm
Joined: 23 Oct 2006Posts: 2303Location: FOCO, MOFO!!!
abamfici wrote:
* Work reimburses bicycle parking up to $80 a month, the same amount they reimburse for car parking. w00t!
That's the point i'm driving (riding/triking...fuc whatever) at. If "my" company will shell out what amounts to a damn fine chunk of change to let someone say they commute by bus everyday, up hills, both ways, without looking (and NOT require some kind of proof)...then why the hell would they offer me what amounts to a bag of chips and require the proof I actually DO IT?
...sorry, it just pisses me off a c-hair
Abamfici...lucky sod...I'd love that near GRAND to ride in!
lantius
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:46 pm
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now that my assistants are gone i think i'm going to start parking it in my cube again. technically a violation of state law but i don't really care that much. i guess if i piss the wrong person off they could come into my office and impound it.
miles, where's your loading dock parking? i've never really been down in that section of odegaard.
ksep
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:03 pm
Joined: 27 Jan 2007Posts: 1879Location: Westlake
I have to submit receipts for my $13 a month parking, I don't just get to pocket $80.
Be nice if I could, though. Carbon offset the drivers. :)
You've just reminded me that I need to talk to bikestation about somehow charging me more per month for super-delux-mega-ultra parking so I could give in effect give a $67 donation every month.
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joby
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:58 pm
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In Kirkland, I put my bike next to my desk in my office.
In San Jose, I leave it in the dead-end walkway outside my cubicle.
In India there is some sort of general extreme hostility to bikes ever coming inside, so I leave it outside with the motorcycles. I tip the guy with the shotgun Rs200.
My Commute to Redmond used end with a trip right by Derrick's Jetta.
pyörä
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:38 pm
Joined: 09 Jan 2006Posts: 69Location: bicycle
I keep my nice-by-my-standards track bike in my cube and my spent-time-in-an-Ellensburg-irrigation-canal bike locked up in the stairwell. unless I forget my lock, in which case they're both in the cube. everybody else keeps their bikes in their offices, because they have offices. RAF Technology is the place. at my other job, I lean my bike against the fence. it's a farm.
derrickito
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:55 pm
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joby wrote:
My Commute to Redmond used end with a trip right by Derrick's Jetta.
it's true, im a total asshole
sekai
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:35 am
Joined: 25 Jul 2005Posts: 1466Location: on the lake
Up until a few weeks ago, I kept my race bike in my office unless I was riding it, and brought my track bike in each morning.
My boss rides a bike too and a few weeks ago, her boss said no more bikes inside. Apparently there was a tire mark on the carpet, OMG!
My race bike still sleeps in my office. I’m using (until things die down) a locked cage in the garage. We had to buy a key for $5. I keep two bikes there full time as well.
Work will pay me $55 to not drive, this is basically what a bus pass would cost. I wish we got more, If I drove they’d cough up $300+ each month.
The big group around here is Transportation Choices Coalition. They do good things.
joeball
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:32 am
Joined: 24 Jul 2005Posts: 6037Location: Ether
Apparently we are lucky to have the one little bike rack out front that holds maybe 6 bikes, it wasn't there until a few years ago. It is uncovered, by the front door, low public traffic and thus lowered bike theft risk i suppose. During bike to work month there was a sign in the lobby from building management advertising the fact there are showers and bike racks the only bikes I have seen this year are from my company with about one exception. My company is small and leases from a building management. I have brought my bike into my cube before but it gets almost so many comments that I view it as a distraction, I'd rather not bring that much attention to it. If I get in before 8 the building isn't too busy and I might bring it in and put it in our back storage room.
The parking lot is huge out front and never gets full even though everyone drives. I'd love if they put in some bike lockers, or let my company have one parking spot to do so. Dane did you figure out what they cost. There are no bus/parking/biking compensation programs through my work.
The main time I might want to bring my bike in would be to keep it out of the rain but at the same time this would be the worst for carpets as it road and brake grime drips off.
mcrawfor
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:12 am
Joined: 09 May 2006Posts: 1039Location: Ballard
lantius wrote:
miles, where's your loading dock parking? i've never really been down in that section of odegaard.
It's the library's loading dock, to the right of cafeteria's delivery driveway. They're on the back/west side of the building, facing the Henry Art gallery. You have to have a staff key to get into it from both the outside and inside. It's a good spot for bikes.
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MikeOD
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:21 am
Joined: 04 Feb 2006Posts: 545
seth_seth wrote:
MikeOD wrote:
I'm at the hutch too, very nice facilities. I lock to the indoor bike racks right next to the parking attendant's booth. We also have locker rooms with showers and towel service.
that's usually where i park, too. have we met yet? i'm still trying to match .83 names with .83 faces.
Not sure if we've met or not but I'll be out tonight. I ride a black touring bike with a bunch of racks and other junk on it.
zuvembi
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:29 am
Joined: 24 Jul 2005Posts: 942Location: Little Addis Ababa
joeball wrote:
The parking lot is huge out front and never gets full even though everyone drives. I'd love if they put in some bike lockers, or let my company have one parking spot to do so. Dane did you figure out what they cost. There are no bus/parking/biking compensation programs through my work.
I've seen costs from $1000 (2 bike locker) - $6000 (I think that's for multi-bike lockers - at least I hope so). I'm planning on calling around for quotes if I have time this morning.
Quote:
The main time I might want to bring my bike in would be to keep it out of the rain but at the same time this would be the worst for carpets as it road and brake grime drips off.
I usually bounce my bike just outside the door a couple times, wheel it into the lobby, bounce it a few times on the mats they put out for people to wipe their feet, then roll it in. It really doesn't drip too much after that.
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3dw
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:39 am
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We have a rack outside for four bikes that is used by a couple people w/ old MT bikes a couple times a month when it's nice.
Another guy and I that ride every day and have a bit more money in our bikes park them inside of a locked shipping/garage area. There's only 65 employees and only two of us ride every day, so no one complains.
WE also get subsidised $21 a month to ride, or bus, carpool, etc...
Oh yeah, we have ping pong, foosball, and air hockey too.
zuvembi
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:59 am
Joined: 24 Jul 2005Posts: 942Location: Little Addis Ababa
Update: We talked to the facilities fellow and he was fairly understanding. It sounds like this was dropped by Legal on the whole company as a de facto policy.
He basically told us that he's looking into bike lockers or just securing a first floor room. For now, he told us they won't be enforcing it until they have some better solutions for us.
So, not a happy ending, but not the worst outcome. He said to talk to him after the July 4th holiday.
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Aaron
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:47 pm
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I make my employees park their bikes outside. Locked to the bike rack!
Bikes should be locked up outside. It makes me happy when in PDX to see all the bikes locked up. When I am riding there, it is sometimes hard to find an available bike rack!
TrikerTrev
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:35 pm
Joined: 23 Oct 2006Posts: 2303Location: FOCO, MOFO!!!
Aaron wrote:
Bikes should be locked up outside
WHY? Thats like sayin children should be seen not heard (shut up Ben...)!
Different solutions for different situations, not blanket statements for all.
wait...you were kidding, right? ; )
lantius
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:15 pm
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Haha, that's where I work. The black bike with the tube cover and pink grip tape you can see in the second photo? That's mine. And we are hiring. In fact, we are hiring for my job since I'm moving to Sweden.
pete jr
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:53 am
Joined: 13 Dec 2005Posts: 1930Location: balls deepx
i covet your job.
Aaron
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:23 am
Joined: 25 Jul 2005Posts: 4645
TrikerTrev wrote:
Aaron wrote:
Bikes should be locked up outside
WHY? Thats like sayin children should be seen not heard (shut up Ben...)!
Different solutions for different situations, not blanket statements for all.
wait...you were kidding, right? ; )
My employer doesn't provide car parking, wah!
Trevor.....YOUR MOM!
Ya know what I mean, you Euro-lovin' Kilt-wearing Trike-riding, dude.... Men in America don't wear dresses! Ya, I'm a Kilter too......
Srsly,
I just find it odd, that we Americans are so attached to our bikes. In Amsterdam, for example, no one takes their bike inside. They do not consider themselves cyclists. No more than Joe/Mary American considers themselves drivers.
Then again, it is our love of bikes that makes us argue on the internet, I mean love each other.
I always ring my bell at other bikers. Some do not even notiice or respond. Car drivers in small towns all wave at eachother. Perhaps as more and more folks pick up a bike and ride, our solidarity will be broken. Then again perhaps not. CM is getting pretty big.
See you Thursday. Kilt Nite, right?
nick
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:02 am
Joined: 04 Sep 2005Posts: 99Location: Stockholm, Sverige
Aaron wrote:
I just find it odd, that we Americans are so attached to our bikes. In Amsterdam, for example, no one takes their bike inside. They do not consider themselves cyclists. No more than Joe/Mary American considers themselves drivers.
I'm not all about locking my bike up outside of work, because it'd get fucking stolen. I'm attached to my bikes because I've spent a bunch of time and money on them. I have a friend who has a car he really cares about and didn't want to leave it parked out on the street in some neighborhoods for the same reason: he doesn't want to risk someone busting it up and stealing his shit. Leaving something valuable that you care about some place where it's likely to get stolen is just stupid if you have the option to bring it some place safer.
Aaron wrote:
I always ring my bell at other bikers. Some do not even notiice or respond. Car drivers in small towns all wave at eachother. Perhaps as more and more folks pick up a bike and ride, our solidarity will be broken. Then again perhaps not. CM is getting pretty big.
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