But that fellow looks so pittiful. He couldn't be a bad guy! Fucker!
Any douch that would speed away should NEVER get a license again. WTF! It touches home hard for me after my wife got hit by a hit and run driver. They ALWAYS are wanted for other shit.
Get well soon Gerry. Not sure if we have met. I hope you bike is OK.
My cousin is a St. Helens cop. At least they caught the fucker.
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:25 am
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another fucking cherokee, too. i'm starting to form a few prejudices here.
the dreaded ben
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:58 am
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pete jr wrote:
another fucking cherokee, too. i'm starting to form a few prejudices here.
yeah, i hate indians too.
gsbarnes
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:53 am
Joined: 15 Aug 2006Posts: 2666Location: No Fun Town, USA
I rode with Andrew at the beginning on LWB. He said he was supposed to meet Henry at 5:55 in Renton. Since it was already 6:15, I figured Henry was way ahead, but instead Henry passed my wife and I somewhere between Spanaway and Centralia.
Then again Henry passed by when I was waiting at the top of the Napavine hill for my wife, then we passed his group a few blocks later and never saw him again.
Just after we pulled into the finish line, there was Joe, who finished at exactly the same time. He said he saw Henry between Winlock and Vader with a mechanical difficulty that might have kept him from finishing. I gather it did not.
Funniest sight of the STP was the 11 year old near the end, standing up on his mountain bike pedals and passing a bunch of adults on the uphills of Highway 30.
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:21 am
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I knew that I was doing the STP. I assumed *since there was a good amount of talk* there would be more .83 people to tag along, camp with and find a way home.
So it was a bit of a shock when I found myself standing alone at the starting point at six in the morning with no idea where I was camping or how I was getting home. All I knew was that I had planned on riding, so I was going to effing ride.
I pretty much zoned into ride mode immediately and just rolled. It was a beautiful morning and a pretty awesome experience. When I got to Spanaway I kinda kept my eyes out for people, didn't see anyone and was about to roll back out when someone mentioned my pirate bib. We got to talking and *blaow!* ride and camp partner accomplished. He's rode with .83 a couple times, and was riding pirate. His name's Chelsy, some of you may know him.
Anywho, what a badass experience. I learned to paceline, who not to paceline with. Almost got sucked into a wipeout at the end of one. Nearly got heat stroke. Camping was fun. I've never eaten so much sugar food in my life. The pirate bib started lots of conversations.
One of the things I loved the most was watching all the insanely resciliant people who rode. Paralyzed, knee replacements, old, young, diseased. We are amazing creatures.
And Derrikito had quite the indirect effect on my ride. Besides the pirate bib, which saved my ride, he gave me three tidbits of wisdom that helped me avoid a lot of pain. 'Drink before you're thirst, eat before you're hungry and travel light.' Cheers to that!
Joe
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:42 pm
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I'm tanned all funny thanks to the STP.
That was a good ride. No mechanicals, only one angry driver that I saw, and nice scenery once we were far south enough. Saw Aden (glad you found a ride partner), Henry on a, uh, break, and Greg for the finish.
We did it in two days, but I now feel that one is definitely possible.
the dreaded ben
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:01 pm
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all i'm saying is the pirate ride seems to be organized about as well as the iraq war.
i blame henry.
Eric_s
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:08 pm
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FieryIrie wrote:
His name's Chelsy, some of you may know him.
!
I lost a drunken terrible picture contest to that guy after playing urban golf. Good kid.
henry
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:20 pm
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I had fun, but i hate riding with that many people (many of whom i hated).
I was with my squiddy brother and my dad.
Last time i did the STP i hadn't been riding bikes for long, the longest i'd ever ridden was like 50 miles, and i had that shitty white hybrid. I was so motivated to prove to myself that I could make it to portland that i hammered myself to a pulp and arrived there on the second day pretty much destoyed.
This year we had a hotel room in Kelso, but at about 110 miles my squiddy brother got tired and called our PSV (which was travelling on I-5) to come get him. After losing the only thing i had left to prove (that 25lbs of steel is just as good as 17lbs of carbon), and then having a series of unfortunate flat related problems, i bailed at about 120.
It's funny how when you lose the psychological motivation it's a lot harder to keep pedaling.
The ride from Kelso to Portland sucks. In fact most of the route sucks with the exception of the area between Chehalis and Castle Rock.
Me and andrew had fun riding the Fat Tire crazy bike contraptions.
If I were to do it next year i'd do it on this thing, which we saw on the trip home:
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henry wrote:
This year we had a hotel room in Kelso, but at about 110 miles my squiddy brother got tired and called our PSV (which was travelling on I-5) to come get him. After losing the only thing i had left to prove (that 25lbs of steel is just as good as 17lbs of carbon), and then having a series of unfortunate flat related problems, i bailed at about 120.
Heh. My wife made it to Castle Rock, before I suggested we give up for the day (we also had a PSV to take us to Kelso). She could have made it to Kelso if we wanted, but I thought it would be better if we had our group dinner at 8pm instead of 10pm. Or if I had half a brain I could have suggested she start drafting me in Chehalis.
We got a ride back to Castle Rock on Sunday and finished the whole course. We slept in until 8 and didn't start rolling until 9:50. A much better idea would have been to try to get rolling by 8, as the crowds were just horrendous. Last year I left Vader at 7:30 and everything was peachy.
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Alex
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:42 pm
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henry wrote:
\The ride from Kelso to Portland sucks. In fact most of the route sucks with the exception of the area between Chehalis and Castle Rock.
So why do it? There are much nicer routes to Portland, and you don't have to ride them with 9,000 of your closest enemies.
That is why I haven't done STP yet. Leaving this Saturday to go riding around the mountains and Columbia River Gorge for a week though.
The crowd wasn't nearly as bad for the one day. I grabbed a hotel in Portland and stuck around the next day to meet friends rolling in. It was way more crowded the second day. I highly recommend the 1 day if you want to avoid that crowds.
I thought I saw Henry in the beer garden. Confirmed.
henry
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:01 pm
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Alex wrote:
So why do it?
because my father has been hearing about the STP for many years and decided to do it, and being his offspring i'm expected to do things like that with him.
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Alex wrote:
henry wrote:
\The ride from Kelso to Portland sucks. In fact most of the route sucks with the exception of the area between Chehalis and Castle Rock.
So why do it? There are much nicer routes to Portland, and you don't have to ride them with 9,000 of your closest enemies.
The crowds are avoidable if, as I wrote, you leave early both days. Helps to go past Centralia the first day as well.
What isn't avoidable is that you blow every weekend in the spring and early summer training for the damn thing. That's why I don't want to do the STP anymore. I'm guessing I'll get roped into it again eventually, but the next time at least, I'm going to suggest we just volunteer to hand out Clif Bars or something.
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:03 pm
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gsbarnes wrote:
Alex wrote:
henry wrote:
\The ride from Kelso to Portland sucks. In fact most of the route sucks with the exception of the area between Chehalis and Castle Rock.
So why do it? There are much nicer routes to Portland, and you don't have to ride them with 9,000 of your closest enemies.
The crowds are avoidable if, as I wrote, you leave early both days. Helps to go past Centralia the first day as well.
What isn't avoidable is that you blow every weekend in the spring and early summer training for the damn thing. That's why I don't want to do the STP anymore. I'm guessing I'll get roped into it again eventually, but the next time at least, I'm going to suggest we just volunteer to hand out Clif Bars or something.
screw Clif Bars...i say a tequila shooter bar would be more fun
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Joe
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:36 am
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TrikerTrev wrote:
screw Clif Bars...i say a tequila shooter bar would be more fun
I say your mom would be more fun.
Joe
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:43 am
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Alex wrote:
So why do it? There are much nicer routes to Portland, and you don't have to ride them with 9,000 of your closest enemies.
There must be a route with lower traffic. We were riding down some pretty busy highways and I both saw and experienced some near-misses with cars. Plus it's not much fun to ride a bike 30 miles in noisy traffic.
It would also be nice to have the option to avoid pashtun america, aka small rural towns. My favorite was McKenna, which featured such sights as a gun shop housed in an old church and a sign outside of a general store that read "Welcome to the USA, now learn to speak friggin english," in englsish, no less.
derrickito
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:43 am
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i graduated high school the next town over from mckenna/yelm. glorious town of eatonville. i have a little gun toting, big engine driving, clearcutting spot that is close to my heart.
mattm
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:46 am
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i agree the STP needs to skip hwy 30 completely, anyone know a good alternate route? i'm not surprised the hit-n-run happened near goble, it probably happens all the time around there.
gsbarnes
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:50 am
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Joe wrote:
There must be a route with lower traffic. We were riding down some pretty busy highways and I both saw and experienced some near-misses with cars. Plus it's not much fun to ride a bike 30 miles in noisy traffic.
It would also be nice to have the option to avoid pashtun america, aka small rural towns. My favorite was McKenna, which featured such sights as a gun shop housed in an old church and a sign outside of a general store that read "Welcome to the USA, now learn to speak friggin english," in englsish, no less.
How are you going to both get lower traffic and avoid small towns?
Also, I'm dubious there is a good route with lower traffic for most of the route. You can't even ride directly to Olympia without using I-5.
In particular, I see no good alternatives to the Westside Highway or Highway 30 (which was your basic route on day 2 up until Portland). Assuming you don't want I-5, you have to take 507 through Fort Lewis (unless you continue on the atrocious Highway 7).
Besides, if you avoid McKenna, you avoid Roy and the chocolate milk.
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the dreaded ben
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:50 am
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derrickito wrote:
i have a little gun toting, big engine driving, clearcutting spot that is close to my heart.
you don't say.
gsbarnes
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:56 am
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mattm wrote:
i agree the STP needs to skip hwy 30 completely, anyone know a good alternate route? i'm not surprised the hit-n-run happened near goble, it probably happens all the time around there.
The only through routes between the Cascades and the Coast Range that don't involve lots of hills are Highway 30, I-5, the BNSF line, and the Columbia River.
If you take I-5 south of Kalama, remember those big rock walls you drive next to for miles? That's your basic problem.
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Hayduke
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:56 am
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There must be a route with lower traffic. We were riding down some pretty busy highways and I both saw and experienced some near-misses with cars. Plus it's not much fun to ride a bike 30 miles in noisy traffic.
It would also be nice to have the option to avoid pashtun america, aka small rural towns. My favorite was McKenna, which featured such sights as a gun shop housed in an old church and a sign outside of a general store that read "Welcome to the USA, now learn to speak friggin english," in englsish, no less.
How are you going to both get lower traffic and avoid small towns?
Also, I'm dubious there is a good route with lower traffic for most of the route. You can't even ride directly to Olympia without using I-5.
In particular, I see no good alternatives to the Westside Highway or Highway 30 (which was your basic route on day 2 up until Portland). Assuming you don't want I-5, you have to take 507 through Fort Lewis (unless you continue on the atrocious Highway 7).
Besides, if you avoid McKenna, you avoid Roy and the chocolate milk.
My route for Seattle to Portland is much lower traffic. It is also a lot more miles and has a lot more climbing and took me 4 (edit: 5) days.
Here goes:
* Bremerton Ferry
* Ride to Shelton
* Stop in Olympia to meet your touring buddy
* Mud Bay Road to Delphi Road to Mima road to Gate Road to Oakville
* Oakville to Raymond via Oakville/Raymond road (dirt)
* 101 and 4 to Cathlamet/Puget Island
* Puget Island ferry to Clatskanie, OR
* 47(Clatskanie Highway) to 202 to Scappoose Veronica Highway.
* Descend to 30 and realize that it sucks
* Climb back up Rocky Point Road(crazy steep!) then take Skyline Blvd to Forest Park
* Descend into Portland
* Wake up the next morning and do the Bridge Pedal
It's a much nicer route than the STP ride. It's longer, but more scenic, more challenging, much less traffic.
alex
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Joe
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:22 am
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gsbarnes wrote:
How are you going to both get lower traffic and avoid small towns?
By living in a fantasy world where both these conditions exist.
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Besides, if you avoid McKenna, you avoid Roy and the chocolate milk.
Exactly.
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:25 am
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i bought acid in mckenna a few times. cant be all bad eh?
gsbarnes
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:10 am
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Maybe next year we can get Derrick to stand outside the gunshop/church selling acid.
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gsbarnes
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:14 am
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Joe wrote:
gsbarnes wrote:
Besides, if you avoid McKenna, you avoid Roy and the chocolate milk.
Exactly.
I pity the fool who doesn't like some fresh milk!
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Joe
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gsbarnes wrote:
Joe wrote:
gsbarnes wrote:
Besides, if you avoid McKenna, you avoid Roy and the chocolate milk.
Exactly.
I pity the fool who doesn't like some fresh milk!
Fresh milk: good.
Fresh chocolate milk: sometimes even better
Fresh chocolate milk in 90+ heat in the middle of a 120 mile bike ride:
gsbarnes
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:39 pm
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Joe wrote:
Fresh chocolate milk in 90+ heat in the middle of a 120 mile bike ride:
As always, YMMV, but I was skeptical last year, and I'm mildly lactose-intolerant, but I tried it anyway, and I'd say it was pretty much the best damned refreshment I had the whole ride.
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:29 pm
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back to the guy that got taken out. anybody heard how he's doing? i dont quite remember the name gerry, but i'd probably remember a face. anyone remember who he is?
jeff
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:35 pm
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derrickito wrote:
back to the guy that got taken out. anybody heard how he's doing? i dont quite remember the name gerry, but i'd probably remember a face. anyone remember who he is?
That is a nasty cut on his forehead. Hope he's doing better.
PORTLAND — The cyclist struck by a hit-and-run driver in this year's Seattle-to-Portland ride suffered two fractured vertebrae, nine stitches in his head and a partially collapsed lung.
But Gerald Marvin, 24, of Seattle, said his helmet saved him from a much worse fate."
The point: If riding without a helmet makes sense to you then you already don't have many brains to spare, so keep them under cover, dumbass.
henry
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:24 pm
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Joe wrote:
The point: If riding without a helmet makes sense to you then you already don't have many brains to spare, so keep them under cover, dumbass.
How am I going to pick up hott ladies at the Cha? oh wait ... i mean Pony! and uh... hott dudez!
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who gives a shit what other people do with their own goddamn heads?
john
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the dreaded ben wrote:
who gives a shit what other people do with their own goddamn heads?
Well... just girls... girls should be required to wear helmets...
at least the cute ones...
it's the whole barbie hypothesis...
cause head injuries... well... like in the case of my friend Kevin who had a head injury and my sisters friend Marcus for that matter... well, they both reverted to about a 3rd grade mentality...
now for most guys I know who don't wear helmets... that's no big deal... they're already there... big deal...
but for girls...
well... that's all fucked up...
cause that means they will want to play with barbies...
so... like...
it comes along to bed time, and you are horny... and you have to be all creepy like and tell your significant other...
"Honey... time to put the barbies away... it's time to do that thing again..."
then they start to cry as you pull the barbies out of their hand...
awrgh...yuk...
so I dunnknow about yer preferences in bed... but my wife wears a helmet...period!
Know helmet, no barbies
No helmet, know barbies!
ew.
The dark side of head trauma that people just don't talk about...
Kevin's wife was... amazingly patient... Marcus's girlfriend left him.
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