Another good time! Was there any beer left at the 7/11? I heard that 99 sucked for those in the back of the pack.
See ya next month!!!!
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:28 am
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Oldmesenger82 wrote:
I heard that 99 sucked for those in the back of the pack.
99 was fun at the back of the pack, unless you had car fear. It would have been nice to have a one or two of more experienced riders to help pace the one asshole car that was being a jerk. I think the wise solution would be to have 6 people take up all three lanes and keep the traffic line orthoganal to the road.
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I know I complained a lot about it yesterday but.... here I go again!
Riding on 99 is totally counter productive! It does not get the point of Critial Mass across. WE DON'T BELONG THERE ANYWAY! All it does it piss off drivers (I know, that's the point) but we're pissing off the wrong drivers.
And we hit so many backroads!
The turn out was great, it would have been nice to make it more of a purposful ride. It was very disorganize (I know, that's the point) but I think there should be more people that have an inkling of what's going on reigning in that rodeo.
And I'm pretty sure we bought that 7-11's beer racks clean. Nice!
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:02 pm
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7-11 never runs out of beer. it pops up from the cooler floor like a pez dispenser after being brewed and packaged in the basement by genetically engineered opium slaves. taquitos, too.
i was near the end of the line, and the lady seemed pretty unfazed by the rush. she even decided to do the "oh, i'm from there, too!" thing after seeing on my passport that i was born in mississippi. if she had a job that society deemed tipworthy, i might've let her keep the fourteen cents.
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FieryIrie wrote:
Riding on 99 is totally counter productive! It does not get the point of Critial Mass across. WE DON'T BELONG THERE ANYWAY! All it does it piss off drivers (I know, that's the point) but we're pissing off the wrong drivers.
i agree with you that it's counterproductive, but on the other hand you're totally wrong. highway 99 north of downtown is NOT a limited access highway. there is no minimum speed limit enforced and bicycles are allowed to ride there legally. i've done it myself many times.
the one good argument about taking critical mass up there (as opposed to on i5 or on the viaduct) is that it is recognizing that highway 99 is a space that is legitimate for bicycles and designed in such a way that they are effectively banned by poor roadway design and driver behavior.
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:00 am
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Except that the aurora bridge -is- restricted to motor vehicles.
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john wrote:
Except that the aurora bridge -is- restricted to motor vehicles.
it is? i've never seen any signage?
probably the worst thing about highway 99 is that the speed limit is routinely broken. it's 40mph, but i usually see folks blasting along like it's i-5.
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:33 am
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My Highlights of CM/Greenlake race:
1. Grandma being pulled on the trailer
2. Good afterparty at Golden Gardens
3. Dumbass kid getting run over in the Greenlake race
4. Trevor cussing out the Jack in the Box employees for not letting us go through the drive thru on our bikes
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DJStroky wrote:
My Highlights of CM/Greenlake race:
1. Grandma being pulled on the trailer
2. Good afterparty at Golden Gardens
3. Dumbass kid getting run over in the Greenlake race
4. Trevor cussing out the Jack in the Box employees for not letting us go through the drive thru on our bikes
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jack can lick my sack!!!
i USED TO be able to go thru those and get a burger to soak up the booze, but they now (or at least that night) decided to enforce their "no walk-up/bike-up service" policy...after sitting there behind running cars (cough, cough) for what seemed like 15 or 20 minutes.
Dued came out of his drive thru cube to tell us they cant serve us. I 'splained ive done it dozens of times before, what changed. I asked for the policy that says this cause seems like they didnt WANT to serve us, instead of not being ALLOWED to. I asked for an explanation in what the damn difference was between two bikes in a drive thru as opposed to a car...cept were not stinking up the place.
all too much for a drive thru attendees mind to handle...he said they dont keep a list of the rules and whimpered something to me that the trike kept ringing the drive thru bell!!! HA-ha-ha!!!
as it turns out AT the pickup window theres a list of rules...one being no bikes allowed in the drive thru. Ya, good thinking Jack, you foam filled cumgargler...put the rules at the end of the line, Fukkuff! is it too much to ask that signs with rules and shit be placed at the beginning of a line, NOT THE END! gawd, our society is getting exponentially dumber as time progresses.
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liked this mass for the most part. GG was a great ending, lots of folks riding is AWESOME, but the start seemed 'kinda dupid (did people not want to ride?) I like doing north 99 cause bombing the bridge is fun!...but then hitting residential side streets? g'aie! Grandma in a trailer was the kewlest (i shoulda offered her a beer) and the carni music as we moved thru downtown was unusually fitting.
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john wrote:
Except that the aurora bridge -is- restricted to motor vehicles.
thats crazy talk! did you fall an bonk your head?
it IS mass afterall...since when we obey those pesky road rules?
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:29 am
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I'm just clarifying the point to Lee, I personally think we need to do the express lanes and the 520 bridge.
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highway 99 north of downtown is NOT a limited access highway.
Lee speaks the truth.
Here's a ghetto scan from the Washington State Department of Transportation Bicycle Map. Partial legend:
Red/Black = Bicycling Prohibited
Red = 1998 Average Daily Traffic over 20,000
Orange = Major Bridges Where Bikes Must Use Sidewalk Or Bike Path
I interpret this to mean riding a bike on 99 is allowed north of Mercer and South of S Nevada St.
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:03 pm
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For me it doesn't matter whether riding is allowed or not. I'd be thrilled if we took CM on I5.
What is this "counter-productive" thing people are talking about?
"What's holding up traffic?" the motorist asks.
"Bicycles" he is told.
"Hmm!" he says.
I don't care what emotion comes afterwards, that awareness is the point of critical mass, it doesn't matter what road we're on.
Plus - going on 99 this month seemed necessary to me. I think we needed to show the city that it takes a dedicated helicopter and 50 officers to control us. I don't think they can or want to put those resources into corralling a party every month, and it was important for us to remind them and ourselves of that fact.
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:02 pm
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so, the last three CMs I've been on went north through QA, cap hill or fremont, and ended at gasworks or GG. Is there a point in trying to ride rianier? go up jackson and bomb rainier to somewhere southend? go back up 23rd? or is it just that we like going through the downtown core and then places near where the majority of CM participants live.
PS there was a guy at the end going through ballard who was screaming profanities. It was pretty funny: "I'm a cyclist and you guys are ruining it for the rest of us FUCK YOU!" and then he sped off in impotent rage in his shitty car.
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:46 pm
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I think I remember that guy. He may have been the one we saw about halfway down Leary who kept trying to "nudge" his way into mass because he couldn't believe that everyone was running a red light. After all, he says, "don't they know that's still illegal?!?1" :)
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:50 pm
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The expansion joints on the 99 bridge look like they could catch a road bike wheel.
That would suck. The shart was messy but it was after 6. We need to ride around the park more so people know it's time to go. Kind of sucks when one person gets up front and starts yelling directions.
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:58 pm
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Furthermore, after 3 hours of mass and 20 more miles of in-town riding beforehand, it's probably a bad idea to start your trek down to Portland. Take my word for it. The "campsite" I found in Puyallup (at about 2 am) was comfortable, but it's difficult to sleep when you are waiting for the guy that actually owns the place to come knocking on your tent with the butt of his rifle. But, I wanted to make the trip, and it was the only weekend I could attempt the ride down. What was I gonna do, miss mass??? Obviously not. I could have *probably* done without a couple of the beers/bowls, though....
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:01 pm
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Oldmesenger82 wrote:
We need to ride around the park more so people know it's time to go.
Yeah, I think that once everyone finally started riding, after realizing that mass had already left, we were about a mile or so long. Heh.
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:58 am
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I agree that it sucked in the back and I apologize to those that were privy to my frustrations as I encountered you in Fremont and/or Freelard. My entire 99 experience was myself + 3 additional cyclists. The rest of CM was far, far, far ahead. How far you ask? Far enough that by the time we exited Aurora, we were able to travel that entire little exit road, all of Stone Way, and most of 34th until you guys were bottlenecked at Pete's/Costa Opa.
One .83er response to my irritation of being seperated from the pack and getting the ire of drivers without the benefit of the other cyclists around was, "well, ride faster." Excellent advice! However, in situations where that can't happen for whatever reason, CM becomes real shitty real fast.
On to other fun items from Friday - my first midnight race. I talked with Evan about my concern of coming in DFL and he started to survey the group to check out the competition. There were a couple moments of silence, after which he said, "Hmm. There's Lucia. She's fast ." That was all. I wasn't feeling confident.
Race starts! Wooweee! Go! go! go! Then I start thinking, "Jeez, the parks dept. should really replace these light bulbs when the burn out. Wait - there are no light posts in general. Fuck! I can't see anything! DAMN - There goes Lucia! Evan was right!" I ride alone for a while and then hear & pass the wreck. I keep tooling along and here comes Nygaard. "Hey Laura! You aren't going to be DFL!", since I had passed those in the crash. Moments later, those involved sped by. Ho hum. :D
Moon Temple was enticing, but I spent too much time at the safety meeting post-race. Wanted to ride in the quiet of the night with my perma-grin.
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:07 am
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laura wrote:
Moon Temple was enticing, but I spent too much time at the safety meeting post-race.
i was way too skeezed out by what sounded like relationship violence in the back room by the bathroom to want to spend any time there. Riding home in the peace of night was way more fun... as was ending the night with a round of cyclocross boot camp style training up the Howe stairs.
BTW, who keeps the official standings on the greenlake race? it was too chaotic at the finish (thanks, guys, for blocking off the finish line with a line of bikes, that was cute) and i never found out who won (or who won the ladies' division).
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:08 am
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don't sweat the DFL. I get beat by mini bikes... I also stop to have a smoke halfway through.
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laura
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:21 am
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Happy Stick Person wrote:
don't sweat the DFL. I get beat by mini bikes... I also stop that have a smoke halfway through.
my hero! :)
Joe
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:29 am
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As long as we're complaining about what did/didn't happen at CM, I guess I should say that I was disappointed that we spent so little time riding around downtown and instead basically made a beeline for 99. I more or less have no problem with riding on 99, as long as it's not because the folks leading us there are doing it because they think it's the bad-boy verboten thing to do.
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laura wrote:
"well, ride faster."
i commonly give bad advice :)
we dont have a place where we keep the greenlake race stats written down. all generally in my head
first, Denny (dennyt on forums)
second, captain america new guy
first lady, Alexis
DFL, heidi (heidib) on a hop-a-long just got here i dont know how to ride a fixed gear bike
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:13 am
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That Capt America guy won it last month. It seemed like he didn't know he can't win twice in a year, so I was going to try to draft of him and come in 1st, but Denny was too frickin fast, so I ended up tying someone for 3rd. Oh and whoever threw those waterballoons, you have terrible aim ;)
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abamfici wrote:
lantius wrote:
highway 99 north of downtown is NOT a limited access highway.
Lee speaks the truth.
Here's a ghetto scan from the Washington State Department of Transportation Bicycle Map. Partial legend:
Red/Black = Bicycling Prohibited
Red = 1998 Average Daily Traffic over 20,000
Orange = Major Bridges Where Bikes Must Use Sidewalk Or Bike Path
I interpret this to mean riding a bike on 99 is allowed north of Mercer and South of S Nevada St.
Not to derail, but where can I pickup on of those nifty maps?
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:52 am
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Random FYI about the Aurora Bridge - There is a group of folks at Cutter & Buck, Impinj, and a couple other busineses in and near the Adobe building in Fremont that are trying to get the sidewalks on the Aurora Bridge closed in hopes that closing the sidewalk will stop the suicide jumpers.
They are motivated by seeing several dead bodies, but so far they don't seem to have the political wherewithall to force any real changes.
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:57 am
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derrickito wrote:
first, Denny (dennyt on forums)
second, captain america new guy
first lady, Alexis
DFL, heidi (heidib) on a hop-a-long just got here i dont know how to ride a fixed gear bike
I think I e-mailed the guy to have one sent via snail mail but it was taking forever so I just went to REI. They have a pile of them (and the seattle bike map, which also takes forever to be snail mailed).
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laura
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:21 pm
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derrickito wrote:
laura wrote:
"well, ride faster."
i commonly give bad advice :)
This may be true ... but I wasn't referring to you!
TrikerTrev
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:47 pm
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snyd3282 wrote:
Random FYI about the Aurora Bridge - There is a group of folks at Cutter & Buck, Impinj, and a couple other busineses in and near the Adobe building in Fremont that are trying to get the sidewalks on the Aurora Bridge closed in hopes that closing the sidewalk will stop the suicide jumpers.
They are motivated by seeing several dead bodies, but so far they don't seem to have the political wherewithall to force any real changes.
if the city would string up a big assed net a few feet down from the bridge they they could catch those poor bastards.
even better, just keep a loaded gun next the suicide hotline phone (or maybe some cyanide pills...less splatter to clean up)
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Joe
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:49 pm
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TrikerTrev wrote:
snyd3282 wrote:
Random FYI about the Aurora Bridge - There is a group of folks at Cutter & Buck, Impinj, and a couple other busineses in and near the Adobe building in Fremont that are trying to get the sidewalks on the Aurora Bridge closed in hopes that closing the sidewalk will stop the suicide jumpers.
They are motivated by seeing several dead bodies, but so far they don't seem to have the political wherewithall to force any real changes.
if the city would string up a big assed net a few feet down from the bridge they they could catch those poor bastards.
even better, just keep a loaded gun next the suicide hotline phone (or maybe some cyanide pills...less splatter to clean up)
Better yet, why don't they just put one of those hurricane fence arches over the entire walkway like they have on highway ped overpasses?
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:57 pm
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cause they try to climb over it and if the fall in the process, the city is liable. ..duh!
i say some high powered mircowave lazers with movement sensors and drop tracking to cook their asses on the way down. ZZZZZZAPPP!!!
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:17 pm
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i hate that shit.
if people want to kill themselves they're going to do it somehow. don't close down a fucking transportation corridor just to keep a couple bodies out of a parking lot.
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