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Rogelio
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:21 pm Reply with quote
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coupdegrace wrote:

Yesterday I noticed that 'sharrows' were installed on Beach Drive. For all the reasons that bike lanes are dangerous a) create the expectation that the cyclists are only allowed to ride in a bike lane, b) direct thru cyclists into conflict with right-turning motorists, c) diminish visibility of cyclists as they approach and continue thru intersections, and d) door zone danger, sharrows are not! Sharrows encourage shared use of our roadways and do not prohibit cyclists from practicing the 2 most important principles of vehicular travel and cycling 1) destination lane positioning and 2) speed positioning.

The thing that aggravates me about sharrows is that they are even necessary! We have to place a treatment on our streets to instruct motorists to share the road safely with cyclists?! Anyone who as earned the privilege to operate a motor vehicle should already know how to do this! And these sharrows are being placed on benign streets like Beach Drive (yes I have been intimidated on Beach Dr) and deleted from California Ave. Is it OK to run down or intimidate a cyclist on a road that is not marked with a sharrow?



Sharrows aren't necessary but are nice safety measure, besides not prohibiting destination lane positioning, encouraging bicyclist lane positioning. They are also there to discourage less experienced cyclists not to go the wrong way. They're a reminder to both parties, the bicyclists and the automobile drivers, of what is expected of them.


Now, if only this were Texas in that you could resort to deadly force when you felt threatened by that giant deadly weapon on wheels trying to run you down. A friendly shot to the radiator would keep that driver from doing it again, or escalate the issue to horrible proportions, because it's horrible idea. "Dateline presents: Bike Rage, a two part series on the two wheeled menace threatening America's roadways".

It's pleasant up here in Washington, btw. You guys have all these fancy bike lanes and shared lanes. Quite novel.
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coupdegrace
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:25 pm Reply with quote
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Rogelio wrote:

Sharrows aren't necessary but are nice safety measure, besides not prohibiting destination lane positioning, encouraging bicyclist lane positioning. They are also there to discourage less experienced cyclists not to go the wrong way. They're a reminder to both parties, the bicyclists and the automobile drivers, of what is expected of them.


YES sharrows are multi-instructional therefore encouraging shared or cooperative use of our roads. The shame is that here in auto-centric 'Merica we are not taught in middle-school how to use non-motorized vehicles (Bike ED) the foundation of mutual cooperation and respect as a pre-requiste to Drivers ED.

Isn't Texas where a bunch of drunken college students did a study of bike lanes and actually found the answers they were looking for?

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A friendly shot - my new favorite oxymoron!


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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:53 pm Reply with quote
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http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/08/lets_see_action

anybody feel like lighting a fire under this fellow? i am all about finishing my move this week.

i'm sorry to keep delegating, hopefully i'll have a chance to get further back in the game later on.

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vaticdart
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:41 pm Reply with quote
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From what I saw on 8/1, I think the effectiveness of future events (which I will be there for) could be enhanced by having multiple loops hitting Stone Way from multiple access points. I have no idea if the logistics behind such a thing would be possible, but we could achieve a more solid stream of bicycles effect if we had more than one street feeding us onto Stone. Like having bicyclists coming from both directions off of 34th, AND off of N Northlake. Maybe also off access points all along Stone (anyplace there is a light). That way we wouldn't get cut up some much by traffic lights. It would probably require more bicyclists than can be mustered, but I want to throw the idea out there.

Also, I'd really like to see people stop at stop signs next time. At the stop sign at 34th and Evanston (right by the PCC) I didn't see a single other bicycle stop; they just blew through while cars patiently waited. When you're riding for yourself, whatever, but as we're trying to create the friendly-neighborhood-bicyclists image, we really need to stop at stop signs and wait our turn. Maybe we could go through in groups of six or eight bicycles?

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snyd3282
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Just one more information source for the pile, the Wallingford Neighborhood Plan secton on Transportation.

http://council.iactivesite.com/iactivepublicdownload.aspx?filename=Section6.pdf

It also has prices associated with bike lane striping and major intersection signals. :)
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snyd3282
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:20 pm Reply with quote
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Flyers have been handed out at 9 different block parties in Wallingford and Fremont on either side of Stone Way. Everyone was quite interested and supportive.

The only danger at block parties is that every time I stopped, someone offered me food.
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snyd3282 wrote:
Flyers have been handed out at 9 different block parties in Wallingford and Fremont on either side of Stone Way. Everyone was quite interested and supportive.

The only danger at block parties is that every time I stopped, someone offered me food.


Great! Thanks Michael!

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ksep
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:47 am Reply with quote
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Where's the .pdf for the flyer -- is it that Section6.pdf link? Doesn't seem to load for me.

Are going to update seattlelikesbikes for the 15th or are we saving it for a more bike-focused ride e.g. west seattle?

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snyd3282
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:49 am Reply with quote
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abamfici wrote:
Where's the .pdf for the flyer -- is it that Section6.pdf link? Doesn't seem to load for me.

Are going to update seattlelikesbikes for the 15th or are we saving it for a more bike-focused ride e.g. west seattle?


Email me at msnyder at zserf dot com and I'll send you a copy.
Henry has been busy and hasn't had time to update the website yet...and nobody wants to see him missing rides for politics.

Hopefully we can get it updated in the next couple days.
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n_claw
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:21 am Reply with quote
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so...given that the topic title has changed and Henry hasn't had time to send out a mass email, i assume we're not doing the 'lil victory ride tonite, yeh?

i think it's better, anyhow, i have a meeting i didn't know about around 7:30 or 8.
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henry
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Tell me wtf you want on the site, i'll put it up.

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snyd3282
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:01 pm Reply with quote
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n_claw wrote:
so...given that the topic title has changed and Henry hasn't had time to send out a mass email, i assume we're not doing the 'lil victory ride tonite, yeh?

i think it's better, anyhow, i have a meeting i didn't know about around 7:30 or 8.
-N*


The next big ride will be on the 15th.
If anyone wants to show up around 5pm tonight, I told a few people that I'd be riding up and down Stone from 5:30-6:30, but I don't expect more than a handful of people to show up tonight.
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gsbarnes
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Quick update at the top, before I go to the mountains for the day. I'll try to craft it better tonight when I have more time (unless Lando beats me to it).

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snyd3282
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:27 am Reply with quote
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Anyone interested in doing some flyering around Fremont tonight or tomorrow for the Ride/Walk this Wednesday?

I can grab a corner from 5:00-6:45.
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vaticdart
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:29 am Reply with quote
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BikeSport in Ballard didn't finish the 30-day tune-up by last night. Argh! Unless I can get back to Ballard lickety-split tonight, I won't be able to join you guys for the ride. AND I can't hang out and shoot the event since I want to try and get back by 6, when they close, so I can pick it up and not have to ride the frigging bus tomorrow.

Best of luck if I can't make it. I might be able to if my gf can pick up my bike for me today, but she's a stagehand so her schedule is unpredictable.

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TrikerTrev
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:24 pm Reply with quote
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I got a response from the MAYOR!!!

okay, okay...it's not THAT exciting as the feeling of the email (which i will post later as I am not at work and will not type-copy it from my crackberry for you wankers!) was a response template,but none the less I did get a response...which is more than i can say for the city cunt-sol.

He made an interesting statement that is really worth repeating here, verbatim;

"I understand your concerns and desire to have bicycle-only lanes in all directions on Stone Way N. That is why I have instructed SDOT to monitor automobile and bicycle traffic for the next 6 months to see if the sharrow configuration is working as planned, or if we need to make changes. I want to ensure that all users of the road can travle safely."

He also says "...we plan on using the sharrow markings for a trial period on Stone Way N...engineers feel this is a safe way to accommodate increased bicycle traffic on this road."

So I think our message is getting thru!

I'd offer the suggestion that we NOT lighten up on our demonstrations, but also include Stone Way as a part of your daily commute (if possible, duh) to help insure bikes get good representation there for the next 6 months...which will put us in the dead of winter and not so much the best time to bike that strip (which I will point out to him in my response).

see you bonerchokers at GWP!

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gsbarnes
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:35 pm Reply with quote
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Speaking of our elected city leaders, I have a dream!

No, not that kind of dream.

As Seattle Likes Bikes' crackpot visionary, my dream is that the mayor and the city council form a 'Ride in the Rain' team for January 2008.

And they win the 'most trips' prize! And Richie Sexson is named MVP! And the Huskies win a national championship in Gymnastics!

Well, scratch that last paragraph.

Anyway, City Council + Mayor: Ride in the Rain '08. If the rest of the SLB crew agrees, I shall outline some steps we can take to make this glorious future come to pass. Or at least, have a good time trying.

See everyone in a few hours.

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gsbarnes wrote:
Speaking of our elected city leaders, I have a dream!

No, not that kind of dream.

As Seattle Likes Bikes' crackpot visionary, my dream is that the mayor and the city council form a 'Ride in the Rain' team for January 2008.

And they win the 'most trips' prize! And Richie Sexson is named MVP! And the Huskies win a national championship in Gymnastics!

Well, scratch that last paragraph.

Anyway, City Council + Mayor: Ride in the Rain '08. If the rest of the SLB crew agrees, I shall outline some steps we can take to make this glorious future come to pass. Or at least, have a good time trying.

See everyone in a few hours.


i second that notion...as long as its done in the nude!!!

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gsbarnes
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My visions are things of beauty, Trevor. Yours are just icky.

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So what exactly is the route for today's ride? What all does "riding the cooridor [sic] entail"? Are we making U turns and going up and down Stone Way or ???
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gsbarnes wrote:
My visions are things of beauty, Trevor. Yours are just icky.


hey, don't sweat the petty things, pet the sweaty things, I always say!

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n_claw
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:08 pm Reply with quote
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stinkbug wrote:
So what exactly is the route for today's ride? What all does "riding the cooridor [sic] entail"? Are we making U turns and going up and down Stone Way or ???


oh look, it's a route map!

http://seattlelikesbikes.org/resources/SLBII-2.pdf

clicky-clicky.
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stinkbug
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Ah, ok, thanks.

For the record, I did view a couple of the flyers, but not that one. And that's the only one that has a route map. Wish it wasn't so buried :(
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n_claw
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stinkbug wrote:
Ah, ok, thanks.

For the record, I did view a couple of the flyers, but not that one. And that's the only one that has a route map. Wish it wasn't so buried :(


no no it's okay, i know. hopefully some day Henry will time out from his REAL job and work for us instead and the site will be easier to navigate and things like that will be clearly labelled. as is he does what he can when he can and we all appreciate his web-admin-ness greatly.

i am all lo-tech, all the time.

but i hear there's this bike ride tonite that's all about that kinda thing or something...
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MyNameIsJeff
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:24 pm Reply with quote
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You guys still want me to come with the dv cam yes? Anyone who wants a speaking part start thinking about it now!

I'm not going to be able to ride and record so where will be the best spot for me to hang out and record?

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n_claw wrote:
stinkbug wrote:
So what exactly is the route for today's ride? What all does "riding the cooridor [sic] entail"? Are we making U turns and going up and down Stone Way or ???


oh look, it's a route map!

http://seattlelikesbikes.org/resources/SLBII-2.pdf

clicky-clicky.


wow...cute and subtle to boot!

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MyNameIsJeff wrote:
You guys still want me to come with the dv cam yes? Anyone who wants a speaking part start thinking about it now!

I'm not going to be able to ride and record so where will be the best spot for me to hang out and record?


if you could suspend yourself about 12 feet off the ground, mid-street, that should provide the perfect up and down hill visual advantage.

and if that dosent work, im sure RIGHT IN FRONT of the mail place...ya know, the dude that thinks we're all bullies?!?

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TrikerTrev wrote:
MyNameIsJeff wrote:
You guys still want me to come with the dv cam yes? Anyone who wants a speaking part start thinking about it now!

I'm not going to be able to ride and record so where will be the best spot for me to hang out and record?


if you could suspend yourself about 12 feet off the ground, mid-street, that should provide the perfect up and down hill visual advantage.

and if that dosent work, im sure RIGHT IN FRONT of the mail place...ya know, the dude that thinks we're all bullies?!?


I dunno, seems like you could probly ride in Aarons lap instead, given your delicate condition and all.
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MyNameIsJeff wrote:
You guys still want me to come with the dv cam yes? Anyone who wants a speaking part start thinking about it now!

I'm not going to be able to ride and record so where will be the best spot for me to hang out and record?


Yes, we still want you.

If you could walk and record, that would be great. If you need to camp out, I'd pick an uncontrolled intersection (no stoplight) north of 35th and south of 40th. I believe you have 3 to choose from. The Episcopal Bookstore people were supportive last time, so maybe you want to hang out near them.

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Ok, I will float up and down the street then.

If you see me doing this then that means I need help defending from an angry locals.

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MyNameIsJeff wrote:
If you see me doing this then that means I need help defending from an angry locals.


FUCK YEAH!!!

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Well I got a lot of footage of people on bikes.


What kind of feel should I put on this? I'm no super editor by the way, but I'm pretty sure I can pull of something interesting.

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I saw Suzie Burke getting off the duck. If I had Ben's brain I would have shouted something insulting.
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Wow. Regardless of my cycling fanaticism, crossing the lower part of Stoneway on foot is DANGEROUS. The upper part with only two major traffic lanes, marked crosswalks, and fluorescent yellow school crossings signs looks way better.

At the intersection of 38th and stone where I stopped to cross a few times, I was in a near accident almost every time. On the south-east corner I noticed there was an SDOT sign on a phone pole saying it'd be a marked intersection soon.

206-615-1608

That's the number from the sign for more info. It had a little box on it for flyers but it as all out of them.

Some lady called the feet first guy a retard while crossing after almost hitting him. Great.

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abamfici wrote:
Wow. Regardless of my cycling fanaticism, crossing the lower part of Stoneway on foot is DANGEROUS. The upper part with only two major traffic lanes, marked crosswalks, and fluorescent yellow school crossings signs looks way better.

At the intersection of 38th and stone where I stopped to cross a few times, I was in a near accident almost every time. On the south-east corner I noticed there was an SDOT sign on a phone pole saying it'd be a marked intersection soon.

206-615-1608

That's the number from the sign for more info. It had a little box on it for flyers but it as all out of them.

Some lady called the feet first guy a retard while crossing after almost hitting him. Great.


Classic. Yes yes those intersections are damned nightmarish for pedestrians.

Thank you, all of you, for coming out and riding/walking with us!

Our next ride is September 5th and we'll be bringing letters to the Seattle City Council as well as Mayor Nickels. No route yet, we're trying to make this ride significantly bigger and better than the last, but we'll keep you posted.

Ride/walk safe!
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Thanks for coming out everyone!

I too was amazed at how bad the pedestrian situation is, even with cyclists who are trying to watch out for them. I even missed twice and didn't get stopped in time for the pedestrian.

I hope everyone had fun too.
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abamfici wrote:

At the intersection of 38th and stone where I stopped to cross a few times, I was in a near accident almost every time. On the south-east corner I noticed there was an SDOT sign on a phone pole saying it'd be a marked intersection soon.

206-615-1608

That's the number from the sign for more info. It had a little box on it for flyers but it as all out of them.


No, you misinterpreted that sign. There used to be a marked crosswalk there, and they took it out. The sign references 'this marked crosswalk' and was meant to inform people that they would be taking the crosswalk away (which happened when they repaved/restriped the street). There were no flyers because the sign has been there forever.

Anyone who has an opinion about ped safety on Stone Way, write a letter to the mayor and Jan Drago (same letter is probably fine). I will be doing so today, and will post what I wrote here.

FieryIrie mentioned getting yelled at by employees in a King County motor pool vehicle. Please, please, write Ron Sims and tell him what happened. I'm guessing Ron will give a verbal smackdown to County employees road raging in County vehicles (he bikes, if you didn't know).

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MyNameIsJeff wrote:
Well I got a lot of footage of people on bikes.


What kind of feel should I put on this? I'm no super editor by the way, but I'm pretty sure I can pull of something interesting.


Thanks, Jeff.

We want something that (a) can be linked to from the SeattleLikesBikes website (b) shows what happened (c) makes it look like fun.

Is that enough guidance?

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also: footage that makes us look organized and legal (twoxtwo, stoppin for pedestrians, what-not) and diverse. i know, i know, we ARE diverse, but i did not see as much riding twoxtwo as i'd hoped.
next time we will have people directing, me-thinks.
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gsbarnes wrote:
There used to be a marked crosswalk there, and they took it out. The sign references 'this marked crosswalk' and was meant to inform people that they would be taking the crosswalk away (which happened when they repaved/restriped the street). There were no flyers because the sign has been there forever.

Anyone who has an opinion about ped safety on Stone Way, write a letter to the mayor and Jan Drago (same letter is probably fine). I will be doing so today, and will post what I wrote here.

FieryIrie mentioned getting yelled at by employees in a King County motor pool vehicle. Please, please, write Ron Sims and tell him what happened. I'm guessing Ron will give a verbal smackdown to County employees road raging in County vehicles (he bikes, if you didn't know).


funny thing about peds and crosswalks...the RCW (which i dont have at my fingertips) states that ANY intersection, MARKED or UNMARKED is considered a crosswalk and cars in both directions MUST stop for them.

RIIIIIIght...when polkadotted pandas do the can-can out or my ass!

This state is seriously lacking in its driver education regarding how to deal with pedestrains. Scary puts it lightly. I'm dissapointed the ped groups that said they were going to show didn't. Lame!

Then there was tha old lady riding on the sidewalk. I asked her to join us and shes was like "i don't wanna die!" Dum cow...i wasn't gonna tell her it's illeagal to ride on the side walk (not to mention MORE dangerous), but i'll let her find that out on her own.

I was talking to the kite shop owner before the ride (as i HAD to get a new kite) and she expressed her appreciation and support for what were trying to do. She has had more than a few customers almost buy the farm leaving her shop and collide into bikes coming up or down the sidewalk. Shes really scared that one day it's going to be more that a close call (as her door opens OUT and is half glass...yuck!)

Also, the big CBC guy that was handling the petition was getting on my fucking nerves. We have made it clear that we are trying to show how the sharrows work (or dont) by riding legally in them, and this asshat is just riding where ever he wanted to. Granted I wouldnt give two squirts or pee about this normally, but for this it's counter productive...and when i told him to ride in the sharrow he looked at me like i was crazy (..er, than normal).

sure glad he's on our side...ugg!

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