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joeball

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:32 pm

Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 6037 Location: Ether

What: Camping
When: Sat September 8th, 8:00 Am
Where: Meet on West Side of I-90 Bike Tunnel Lid
Where To: Middle Fork Snoqualmie River via Seattle, MI, Issaquah, Preston, Fall City Snoqualmie, NorthBend...
Who: You and your gear.

More fend for yourself style than some other trips, we will stop in NorthBend for supplies, we may eat lunch along the way.

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Concluding one bike camping trip means it is time to plan another. I find that the weekend before or following Labor day (and Memorial Day) are good times to minimize crowds since the hoards are usually concentrated on the actual long weekend.

Based on our group dynamic

Scenic ride is good
Proximity to Water is good
Proximity to neighbors is not so good
Ability to have a campfire and collect wood is good.
Large camping area is good.

Mt Rainier? Back to the peninsula? Whidbey island?

Any ideas on locations and what are peoples availability in September, specifically the 8th and 9th?

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henry

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:36 pm

somewhat piggish Joined: 05 Aug 2005 Posts: 5415 Location: on porch with shotgun

Already on my calendar. Now i just need location. ;)

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surlykat

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:46 pm

Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 658 Location: in the CD

I'm down, that weekend seems to work for me. I was bummed about missing the Monte Cristo trip so count me in for this one. Mt. Rainier could be good, I went backpacking up the Carbon River valley about a month or so ago and it was awesome. Only problem is that bikes aren't allowed past the end of the road... but then, if we got there entirely by bike it could be a nice long challenging trip, but not too insane.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:48 pm

Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 317

Weekend after Labor day good Sept 8th and 9th.
Teanaway Road is good, usually dry and sunny, lots of good uncontroled camping places on the river, lots of hiking.

laura

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:51 pm

Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 1050 Location: wherever the dance party is

I follow Ro, provided he is reading poetry in the a.m.

And will rearrange September to accomodate more camping! 8th & 9th work! Yes! Yes! Yes!

14th-16th does not work. No! No! No!

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lantius

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:00 pm

1337 Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 6705 Location: right over

i trust ro!

of course, cle elum /teanaway could almost be yet one more trip, since the late summer/early fall over there is fairly mild. we could probably even pull that off in october.

what about something over in the olympics? it's the dry season!

joeball

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:11 pm

Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 6037 Location: Ether

Heading east sounds like a reasonable option, but I do concur that we could almost stretch that into an October expedition, would fire risk drop off then too?

i'm penciling in the 8th and 9th.

Having the group leave together would be nice, since we were out of phase by a 1/2 day this last time it kind of had our two partitions out of sync. An early Saturday departure and late Sunday return could probably work for people no?

langston

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:20 pm

Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 5547 Location: Columbia City

I'd like to come on this trip.
It would be great if we could go somewhere that had direct car support, so we could bring more supplies, travel lighter, farther, faster and more inclusively. There is tons of DNR land out 'round Hood Canal, and heck, the coast is only a (long, ferry-shortened) day long ride.

I can think of multiple great places to hike, enough hikes for a lifetime of sunny weekends, but haven't done much bike camping that had to accommodate a large group.

I promise only to complain about Lee's elitist attitude and deficient cycling stamina.

dennyt

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:43 pm

rocket mechanic Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 2708

Teanaway!

Let's climb Stuart.

ripper

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:21 pm

evilmike Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 640 Location: Capitalist Hill

I'm in for sure this time. I'm already kicking myself for missing monte cristo

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Lutella

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:29 pm

Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 206 Location: all dressed in yella

I want more camping! Sept 8-9 works for me.

lantius

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:29 pm

1337 Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 6705 Location: right over

dennyt wrote:

Let's climb Stuart.

aw man, i miss riding with stu.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:04 pm

Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 317

It is true Teneaway can be pushed latter in the season. When things get dry on the east side they shut down having a fire. Does anybody know of any uncontroled Olympic areas?
There is also the Salmon La Sac area. Park in Rosyln and bicycle toward Mt Daniel.

john

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:12 pm

AAAARRRRRGGGGbllll pppphtt! Joined: 26 Aug 2006 Posts: 725 Location: In the lab.

I'm game to climb Stuart if I am not on the beach in Rio, Fiji or Athens...

speaking of hat... does anyone have a suggestion of where o go in september that I can stay in a grass hut fr a week and be way the fuck away from people? Need to go on one of those "get away from people" type o' vacations to prevent "brainspray".

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TrikerTrev

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:28 pm

Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 2303 Location: FOCO, MOFO!!!

great idea, timing iffy

you DO remember what September in Washington means right???

RAIN

now don't get me wrong, but how about a ride up the John Wayne Trail to some place that has a better chance of being dry?

Maybe Lake Kacheese, or Lake Cle Elum?

it has all the requirements:
Scenic ride
Proximity to Water
not much Proximity to neighbors
Ability to have a campfire and collect wood
Large camping area

Folks can meet at the trail head in North Bend by Rattlesnake Lake. The trail is long, maintained and has cool things like long assed tunnels thru mountains...

Come on...we've been talking and talking about this route since spring...lets do this!

Theres Roslyn and Salmon La Sac (as mentioned) close by, easy access for cars (as requested), stores and bars (obvious necassity) so food and h2o can be got there instead fo hauling it...hell, theres a load of shitty restaurants that are in need of a good Pointeethreeing...

Or I almost forgot...there is...THE BRICK!!!

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laura

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:43 am

Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 1050 Location: wherever the dance party is

joeball wrote:

Having the group leave together would be nice, since we were out of phase by a 1/2 day this last time it kind of had our two partitions out of sync. An early Saturday departure and late Sunday return could probably work for people no?

I concur on that point and was thinking this time around I would prefer to just commit fully and take Friday off for a Friday am departure?

surlykat

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:28 am

Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 658 Location: in the CD

laura wrote:

joeball wrote:

I concur on that point and was thinking this time around I would prefer to just commit fully and take Friday off for a Friday am departure?

That would be nice, but can everyone get Friday off? I might be able to, especially if I work labor day, but who knows if everyone can.

joeball

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:42 am

Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 6037 Location: Ether

surlykat wrote:

laura wrote:

joeball wrote:

I concur on that point and was thinking this time around I would prefer to just commit fully and take Friday off for a Friday am departure?

That would be nice, but can everyone get Friday off? I might be able to, especially if I work labor day, but who knows if everyone can.

Two departure groups will still work but if they are both a.m. departures then the timing will not be out of phase, one group just has a whole extra day rather than half. I'll decide closer to the date about if I will be taking friday off. It depends where we are headed and what hiking is there (and if I want to haul my boots again).

gsbarnes

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:05 am

Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 2666 Location: No Fun Town, USA

TrikerTrev wrote:

great idea, timing iffy

you DO remember what September in Washington means right???

RAIN

Late September, yes, but early September is historically about as rainy as August. That is to say, not. Seattle historical monthly rain totals.

Then again, this looks like the kind of year when I'd bet on a higher-than-average September rain total.

Speaking of September rain, did you know that the first Lollapalooza added Seattle at the end of the tour? End of September, King County Fairgrounds (Enumclaw). It rained constantly. My friend and I got really, really wet.

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sekai

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:05 am

Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1466 Location: on the lake

Might I suggest Lost Lake just east of Snoqualmie Pass.
I’ve spent some nights here. I believe the John Wayne trail would get you close.

It is a bit of uphill gravel road to the lake itself. There are a few fishers that are up there in the day. But I’ve never had company overnight (maybe a bear or deer)
There is room for a car or two.

6+ tents would fit just fine.

I think it could be a nice unsupported ride.

http://www.washingtonlakes.com/ReportList.aspx?id=311

http://maps.google.com/maps/mm?ie=UTF8&q=Keechelus+Lake,+washington&hl=en&ll=47.33446,-121.406994&spn=0.025013,0.05785&t=h&z=14&om=1

The lake is listed on the Gazetteer(?) maps.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:11 am

Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 317

Trevor memtioned the John Wayne trail. We could park at the rattlesnake lake entrance and ride through the tunnel(something I have always wanted to do). The tunnel closes at the end of Oct. Then there is Lake Easton which is about 30+ miles from rattlesnake. I'm sure we could find some camping. And Mt Burgers(hmmm).
More options.
I am not sure I can do a Friday departure this time but can leave early Sat. What does early mean? Not meet at Dicks at 8:30 lv town at 9am.
Early means, old man early, lv town between 5-6am, early. When the bears are just waking up.
Did I tell you I say a bear this last weekend. Crossed the road about 200 feet ahead of me. Must have been a teenager, was tall and gangly and had a surly sort of attitude(surly bike joke here).

the dreaded ben

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:33 am

Grumpy Greeb Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 5329 Location: flavor country

www.fs.fed.us/r6/olympic/recreation-nu/maps/camps-map_1.shtml

or there is always olympic hot springs...
www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=1228201

TrikerTrev

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:49 pm

Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 2303 Location: FOCO, MOFO!!!

ro wrote:

Did I tell you I say a bear this last weekend. Crossed the road about 200 feet ahead of me. Must have been a teenager, was tall and gangly and had a surly sort of attitude(surly bike joke here).

are ya SHURE that was'nt Henry?

Question/discussion:

is the group set on the 9/10 camp date, or can we discuss maybe the weekend after? I really wanna go camp with you dorks before the weather goes to shit, but that thats a bad weekend for me.

Maybe y'all need some extra time to heal your taints after this weekends adventure?

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joeball

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:04 pm

Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 6037 Location: Ether

For myself the Sept 8-9 is what works for me, the 15-16 is booked.

TrikerTrev

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:07 pm

Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 2303 Location: FOCO, MOFO!!!

joeball wrote:

For myself the Sept 8-9 is what works for me, the 15-16 is booked.

damn...and you started it!

dam, damn, damn!

the 22/23 is pushin it i bet huh?

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joeball

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:19 pm

Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 6037 Location: Ether

TrikerTrev wrote:

joeball wrote:

For myself the Sept 8-9 is what works for me, the 15-16 is booked.

damn...and you started it!

dam, damn, damn!

the 22/23 is pushin it i bet huh?

well we tend to me semi-democratic in this regard, but as the discussion has suggested if we still go the 2nd weekend in september we may be able to extend summer by heading east of the cascades in the 1st or 2nd weekend of october for yet another trip.

pete jr

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:25 pm

Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 1930 Location: balls deepx

i might even have my cast off by then

TrikerTrev

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:40 pm

Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 2303 Location: FOCO, MOFO!!!

joeball wrote:

TrikerTrev wrote:

joeball wrote:

For myself the Sept 8-9 is what works for me, the 15-16 is booked.

damn...and you started it!

dam, damn, damn!

the 22/23 is pushin it i bet huh?

semi democratic...in a GWB sorta way?

i'm bummed i had to miss this last trip, but fam damily requires my attendance...as would this proposed thought train. My iders out there...i guess i'll just havta see which way it blows.

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lantius

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:50 pm

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i think we should firm this trip down to september 8-9, and if anyone wants a further trip i'd love to go out again as many more times as possible this summer.

derrickito

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:00 pm

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ill invite kelly again.

henry

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:00 pm

somewhat piggish Joined: 05 Aug 2005 Posts: 5415 Location: on porch with shotgun

lantius wrote:

i think we should firm this trip down to september 8-9, and if anyone wants a further trip i'd love to go out again as many more times as possible this summer.

yes

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joeball

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:07 pm

Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 6037 Location: Ether

derrickito wrote:

ill invite kelly again.

ha, did she update her myspace yet?

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:25 pm

Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 317

Sept 8 and 9 I vote. And Trevor start another ride for first weekend in Oct, if we go east I have found very nice weather and trees in fall color.
And if Derrick invites Keli I say we duck tape them together and drag them behind the bikes for awhile.

jeff

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:27 pm

SOC pussy Joined: 05 May 2006 Posts: 4501

ro wrote:

And they will know us by our trail of meth-addicted teens ...

That's a pretty good band name!

TrikerTrev

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:47 pm

Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 2303 Location: FOCO, MOFO!!!

jeff wrote:

ro wrote:

And they will know us by our trail of meth-addicted teens ...

That's a pretty good band name!

i'll make the meth if you supply the teens

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FieryIrie

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:36 pm

Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 554 Location: Wallingford

I'll complain a little more... My stupid ankle won't heal. If I'm really really good to it for the next three weeks and do everything the physical therapist says, I might be able to make it on this trip that I really really want to go on!
Sooo, if I'm physically able to make it on this bike riding, camping extravaganza then you can count me in.
If not I'll cry in my soup or beer or whatever all weekend.
*pout*

SeditiousCanary

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:59 pm

sorry, can't make it! Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 2315 Location: Fremont Troll

I'm so not going on any of these until there in one on a weekday.

FieryIrie

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:43 am

Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 554 Location: Wallingford

Mmk. Chatted with Laura R about this last camping trip and heard there was car support! Or... potential car support. I don't think riding out would be smart, but I'm down to do car support soooo if someone else wants to drive... See, I don't have a car.
But like I said, I want to come camping. So the word is now out. Anyone want to drive?

Alex

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:40 pm

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 3128 Location: Roosevelt

joeball wrote:

Any ideas on locations and what are peoples availability in September, specifically the 8th and 9th?

You have an excellent knack at picking weekends that I'll be out of town! I was in Philadelphia for Monte Cristo and I'll be in Portland/Vancouver that weekend for another wedding.

My vote would be for
http://kentsbike.blogspot.com/2007/06/calligan-lake-s24o.html

Note, it is not legal to camp there. It would just be a long ride with a little resting by the lake.

alex

Alex

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:44 pm

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 3128 Location: Roosevelt

the dreaded ben wrote:

www.fs.fed.us/r6/olympic/recreation-nu/maps/camps-map_1.shtml

or there is always olympic hot springs...
www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=1228201

There is a lot of camping up there and the "trail" up is just an old road that would be easy to bike.

I think the hot springs kinda suck though. I love good hot springs, but the only time that I was at Olympic Hot Springs the pools were lined with floor mats from old cars. Gross!

Maybe it's normally better...

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