Curious if anyone had a recomendation for better, or more relaxed courier/messanger services. Im fully sleeved as Ive been a tattoo artist for the last three and a half years. Also, a rather loose and sloppy resume considering Ive been a tattoo artist for the last three and a half years, and the three prior businesses I worked for all have gone under since and dont have much contact info :) From my point of view it looks like I am fucked, or at least rather bleak in finding something that will fully suit me, but any comments can be usefull.
Thanks
Patrick
derrickito
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:17 am
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i dont think sleeves, or a spotty work history will get you looked down upon in the messenger community.
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:17 am
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Edit: That wasn't helpful was it. Dude, that other thread you posted had a large list of places. I would start at the top. (Or get crazy and start at the bottom.)
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esolcos
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:26 am
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Yeah i posted the other day, but haveing a list of names and numbers with no background info on companies doesnt do a lot of good but calling numbers and writing letters.
People who may have worked for or know anything about a particular business could help me surely. Could save quiet a bit of time as well, especially knowing that sleeves and a spotty work history probably wont slow me down. Thanks ITO for all of your help. Couldnt appreciate it more.
Patrick
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:34 am
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esolcos wrote:
Yeah i posted the other day, but haveing a list of names and numbers with no background info on companies doesnt do a lot of good but calling numbers and writing letters.
People who may have worked for or know anything about a particular business could help me surely. Could save quiet a bit of time as well, especially knowing that sleeves and a spotty work history probably wont slow me down. Thanks ITO for all of your help. Couldnt appreciate it more.
Patrick
This would be a helpful destination in theory, but currently while some of us know messengers casually, no one on this list currently rides exempting Daniel Featherhead, and he delivers Pizza I heard.
You could wash dishes or check out the labor/trades and probably make more money, in working with your tats. Once kids start back in school, you'll be more likely to find work, in bad weather.
esolcos
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:54 am
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Fuck washing dishes. Im just looking for something differnet to do rather than sitting in a tattoo shop all day. I dont care if I have to ride in bad weather, or ride for bad money.... I just want to be outside... on my bicycle... doing something.
TrikerTrev
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:00 pm
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if you REALLY want a job I can get you work at at&t.
spotty work history, tattoos, peg leg be damned...if you can be professional on the phone and answer peoples cell phone questions and keep your wits (not to mention be able to use a computer...but i think thats been established), PM me and i'll see what i can do to get you in the door.
then again if it's bikey-work only you're only lookin for then i'd work Derricks links somethin fierce.
either way you're gonna need to get yer resume in order...period
<edit>
didnt see your above post...obviously NOT an outside job.
your call...the offer is on the table.
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henry
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:02 pm
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You do realize that it's not really 'cool' to be a messenger anymore? I mean, for fucks sake, they're making a movie about it where JESSICA FUCKING SIMPSON is the messenger.
I saw a pack of fixie kids on really shiny bikes riding around in a parking lot in bellevue a couple weeks ago.
Never listen to Trevor. Just don't do it. Most of us just skim over his posts all glassy eyed.
I tried to read one of his posts once, and I punched the moniter.
Just dont do it. Its for your own good.
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:03 pm
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esolcos wrote:
haveing a list of names and numbers with no background info on companies doesnt do a lot of good but calling numbers and writing letters.
That does tend to be part of looking for a job.
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:11 pm
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Cassnasty wrote:
esolcos,
Never listen to Trevor. Just don't do it. Most of us just skim over his posts all glassy eyed.
I tried to read one of his posts once, and I punched the moniter.
Just dont do it. Its for your own good.
may your boat become infested with termites!
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esolcos
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:20 pm
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Well no shit buddy. But reasonable deduction says filtering out the impossible is more logical than wasting my time applying to all. Maybe someone might know if Im fucked applying at certain businesses etc., due to my resume and tattoos. Is this making any kind of logical sense? The logical sense that tells you to scan message boards and add useless (and downright obvious) replies? Ive got plenty of time anyway to research because im still in a god damn wheel chair for a bit. May as well ask questions while Ive got the time.
I want a messanger job because I want to be able to ride everyday, and get paid for it, no matter how shitty the pay, or weather. Im tired of sitting around indoors listentening to people. on the street I dont have to listen to shit.
Im just asking questions (with prefferably unbiased answers) and looking for help. Not tryign to 'be cool.' Who said anythign about being cool? asshole.
Not looking for opinions, other than those I asked for. everythign is relative and although I want to do somethign you may not want to do thats the point... I want to, and its all relative.
otherwise, to those who offer there help and respect.... peace and respect for you as well.
jeff
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:25 pm
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I have a job opening for drainage supervisor, are you good with balls?
esolcos
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:29 pm
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thats actually rather clever... but now im getting the feeling that most cyclists, or messengers are cynics and assholes. Still funny however Jeff........
I thought this was a community... im ending this shit fest. thanks for the help everyone.
Stanglor
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:34 pm
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You could try PM-ing Leah. She's a messenger who used to ride with us but got sick of people referring to her as a "dish-washer on wheels"
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TrikerTrev
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:39 pm
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esolcos wrote:
thats actually rather clever... but now im getting the feeling that most cyclists, or messengers are cynics and assholes. Still funny however Jeff........
I thought this was a community... im ending this shit fest. thanks for the help everyone.
yeah, good idea...doesnt look like your cut from the cloth
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jeff
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:40 pm
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esolcos wrote:
thats actually rather clever... but now im getting the feeling that most cyclists, or messengers are cynics and assholes. Still funny however Jeff........
I thought this was a community... im ending this shit fest. thanks for the help everyone.
Dude, relax. It is a community, which is why Derrick took the time to compile a list of every single courrier company in Seattle and exactly why we are prone to give each other (especially people who have never ridden with us) a raft of shit.
Joe
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:36 pm
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esolcos wrote:
Ive got plenty of time anyway to research because im still in a god damn wheel chair for a bit. May as well ask questions while Ive got the time.
Watch what you say about wheelchairs or you might piss off trevor.
Tacoma Dude
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:52 pm
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esolcos wrote:
thats actually rather clever... but now im getting the feeling that most cyclists, or messengers are cynics and assholes. Still funny however Jeff........
I thought this was a community... im ending this shit fest. thanks for the help everyone.
i am totally excited to ahve you part of our community would you like for a ride in my van with me?
are you over18?
henry
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:52 pm
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Joe wrote:
Watch what you say about wheelchairs or you might piss off trevor.
point!
btw, dear sir. I'm sorry you think i'm an asshole. Did you really post on here and expect to NOT get made fun of? You should have looked around a bit. This forum is generally populated by a group of people who know eachother and see eachother a couple times a week. Some random douchetrooper will always get made fun of.
So ... I'm sorry you're broken: shouldn't have ate shit.
You want to be a messenger? Do it on a segway, they have COMPUTORZ that keep even a dumbass like you upright.
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esolcos wrote:
thats actually rather clever... but now im getting the feeling that most cyclists, or messengers are cynics and assholes. Still funny however Jeff........
I thought this was a community... im ending this shit fest. thanks for the help everyone.
If this is the limit of crap you can take, then don't bother trying for a courier job. You won't last as long on the streets as you did here. The mess kids give each other way more crap than we do.
Stay in the tattoo shop.
henry
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:16 pm
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I'd like to get tears tattooed down my chin. Can anyone make this happen?
lmao. this just reinforces rule #1 about segways: you cannot look cool while riding a segway.
john
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:08 pm
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So dude, go down to spokane and east marginal and see about being a longshormen. Way fucking hipper, Jessica Simpson will never portray you in a movie, and you will make 6-7 times what a messenger makes.
I would try it for awhile.... but I work in the stage union and I get pissed when I make less than $30-$40 an hour. It's fun, I hang people in the air and I blow things up all day. And on good days you get to do things like practice Tai Chi with Lou Reed and have barbecues with people like Kim Gordon. Actually.. we may be looking for people soon if you can demonstrate a skill in stagecraft... it's not difficult to get a foot in.
Anyway, being a bike messenger in Manhattan might be kinda fun for a summer, but as a regular job I dunnknow, seems irritating and bad for the muscle tissue. Especially in Seattle.
Take a look at the longshormen, you can be outside all day and they make bank, take a look at IATSE.. they are kinda cool also... Longshormen make a LOT more.
neither could care less about yer tat's.
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john wrote:
So dude, go down to spokane and east marginal and see about being a longshormen. Way fucking hipper, Jessica Simpson will never portray you in a movie, and you will make 6-7 times what a messenger makes.
I would try it for awhile.... but I work in the stage union and I get pissed when I make less than $30-$40 an hour. It's fun, I hang people in the air and I blow things up all day. And on good days you get to do things like practice Tai Chi with Lou Reed and have barbecues with people like Kim Gordon. Actually.. we may be looking for people soon if you can demonstrate a skill in stagecraft... it's not difficult to get a foot in.
Anyway, being a bike messenger in Manhattan might be kinda fun for a summer, but as a regular job I dunnknow, seems irritating and bad for the muscle tissue. Especially in Seattle.
Take a look at the longshormen, you can be outside all day and they make bank, take a look at IATSE.. they are kinda cool also... Longshormen make a LOT more.
neither could care less about yer tat's.
longshoremen get free seafood and the girls LOOOOVE 'em
(been there...done that)
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J
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:53 pm
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flaggers get to be outside all the time too... plus you're in about as much danger of getting run the fuck over as being a messenger...and construction companies don't give a red fuck about tattoos.
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gsbarnes
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:55 pm
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If you really like the outdoors, I hear City Light could use some people. Nothing like getting back to nature while handling live wires 30 feet in the air in the middle of a windstorm.
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:57 pm
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Do you like to be told what to do? Because there ain't a hell of a lot of bike messenger spots open, so don't expect to get hired. I see a FAM a day coming in to fill out an application, and most of them don't get hired.
You have to start at the bottom and work your way up. But you don't can't work your way up because you are scum, the scum of the city.
If you still want to be a bike messenger, watch every you tube video tagged bike messenger, study real hard, and go work at Jimmy Johns so I can make fun of you all day.
derrickito
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hell, if jace can beat out all those applicants for a job, i think you're golden.
sans wheelchair and all.
:)
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:56 pm
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gsbarnes wrote:
If you really like the outdoors, I hear City Light could use some people. Nothing like getting back to nature while handling live wires 30 feet in the air in the middle of a windstorm.
Good fooking point...
I actually thought about the city light thing... when we have poweroutages it apparently can be really fun as you are caught in the middle of drama...
they are also pretty good riggers...
I think this is a key point...
Kid... do you really want to work outside... or are you searching for a hipster job...
being a city light employee is way more money... way more skill, and you will move up as you get older...
Bike messenger is shit with no future...
You just can say that you were in a career they made a jessica simpson movie out of...
<thingfish voice>
dat beech looking like she be'n ready fer da dead baby downhill an sheet... lohdy me tweest my knackin!
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ixne the ikebey essengerrmey...
but those lips make the think she needsum....
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Jace wrote:
But you don't can't work your way up because you are scum, the scum of the city.
I've missed Jace's unique approach to the English language.
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Stanglor wrote:
Jace wrote:
But you don't can't work your way up because you are scum, the scum of the city.
I've missed Jace's unique approach to the English language.
I'm just ecstatic his spelling has improved.
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esolcos
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:24 pm
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I just want to work outdoors and ride my bike. maybe now it sounds like just haveing a job that I can work outdoors and ride my bike to would be tops. Fuck hipster shit.. anyway...
Well i wasnt my intention to piss anyone off.. and im npt sure I actually specified anyone as an asshole. Just the possibility that things arent as they seem. I was actually invited to join by a fellow cyclist who is a member of point83 from whom I purchased a bicycle to restore for my girlfriend. i understand getting shit. And I can take plenty of it. Furthermore I am not broken, and havent wrecked a cycle since i was 11. I had corrective surgery to make my feet work properly, and as soon as i am healed Ill be on the next ride out, or race. I meant no offense henry... and I specify you as I feel you took what I said not to heart, but at least as though it was directed towards you, and if I did write it in that context I apologize. I am the noobie here or douchetrooper as you put it. Also rather clever I might add... id love to shake your hand.
I understand that most people here know eachother or have meet in some form. I just thought I could ask for a bit of help and only receive a bit of shit. Wich I did. So I am completely satisfied. Once again, thanks for anyones help. Peace and respect.
Patrick
derrickito
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:35 pm
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we're not as big of asshats in real life as we are online. or maybe it's easier to deal with in real life because we're smiling and handing you booze as we heckle you.
either way. get better, then come out for a spin and introduce yourself :)
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esolcos wrote:
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