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john
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i have 2 nice, etched Jager glasses i'll donate to tis function.

I'm using my 3 monkeys Saki server-ish glass for myself.

Who's bringing the sugar cubes? Cant drink Absinthe without sugar cubes!!!


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Perhaps tonight isn't the best night to bring the noob, lightweight housemate on the tandem for her first ride? Or is it just hills, no offroading?
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john
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theres offroad, I think you will have to push here and there, but I think you can do it...

it is going to be long...

the descent down one trail will be spooky....

the first 11 miles is an ideal girlfriend ride though... if you bailed and turned back... it would be nice and romantic.

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update... here's how toi explain it...

It's nothing I didn't do at 11 years old

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where abouts are you pulling us tonight john?
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derrickito wrote:
where abouts are you pulling us tonight john?


Is there Jetta parking?
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derrickito wrote:
where abouts are you pulling us tonight john?




(just kidding...

it's a surprise...

you'll like it...)

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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:59 am Reply with quote
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those are the important things that i need to know!

parking close?
proximity to a deli with fried foods
marlboro sales
etc etc.
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john
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derrickito wrote:
those are the important things that i need to know!

parking close?
proximity to a deli with fried foods
marlboro sales
etc etc.


patience grasshopper...

yes there will be a stop on the way to get tools to add to the benzopyrene in your lungs and get fried foods....


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you'r kidding right?

this night would be PERFECT for noobs!

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john wrote:


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It's nothing I didn't do at 11 years old

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John, knowing you that dosen't mean jacksquat!

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I want to kill the rest of my brain cells so people on this shitty planet can quit exspecting shit from me

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I'm going to laugh if it's the trail we did to Carkeek last tuesday. That shit was scary without a light. (Which I went out and bught the next day.)

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SKETCHY wrote:
I want to kill the rest of my brain cells so people on this shitty planet can quit exspecting shit from me


It's easier to act stupid than to be stupid; you get a better appreciation for life.
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acting this stupid is all natural

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the dreaded ben
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john, where are we going?

my brother & wife are in town, and we are going down to the golden gardens for a bonfire.

the ride should join us.
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if there isn't a TOS on this /\ /\ /\ , there should be!

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the dreaded ben wrote:
john, where are we going?

my brother & wife are in town, and we are going down to the golden gardens for a bonfire.

the ride should join us.


Your wife is in town?! What's Laura think of this?
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john
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the dreaded ben wrote:
john, where are we going?

my brother & wife are in town, and we are going down to the golden gardens for a bonfire.

the ride should join us.


Wish I could, but that is a different direction than I have pllotted...

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derrickito
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:32 am Reply with quote
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for the record, that stuff is nasty HARD to put down.
swimming at mathews beach though, fantastic.
hope everyone got home all righty, some of you were a mess :)
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koos42
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:32 am Reply with quote
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lotsa Burke-Gillman ---> more BGT
Rogellio falls (1)
Buy beer etc. at Albersons
more BGT ---> yet more BGT ---> EVEN MORE BGT!!!
tiny neighborhood ---> hill ---> bigger hill ---> long ass trail
religious university (semenary[sic] school)
long ass trail ---> water
beer/food/absolute (tastes so bad Paul pukes, I don't blame him)
Rogellio gets tanked (how, where, when ???)
up big dirt hill
group splits, some I-90, others BGT
bgt
rogellio falls (3 or 4, I missed some?)
rogellio falls in deep ass ditch w/ thorns (5)
swimming!!!!
pete_jr rides in floaty toy, socks, shoes, underwear, chrome bag, cast
BGT--->Sand Pt. Way --->BGT ---> Rogellio falls (6) ---x fremont
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pete jr
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:56 am Reply with quote
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that was a pretty choice spot on the water.

much respect, but old doc murphy's vitalic tincture was a little on the rough side for me.
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john
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:09 am Reply with quote
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hehehheh...

damn... I was shocked that y'all found it a tad strong... the bottle right disappears at my parties... but perhaps the eyeliner helps. I will tone down the next batch to be mega easy... and I will bring a LOT of sugar cubes... it heelps.

I will admit this batch was a bit bitter... I usually let it swish back andd forth over my tounge... however this I stufff I was fine with it just gliding straight down. I did like the reduction of Anise and the addition of the peppers...

Highpoints... watching the sky turn solid and seeing everything in the horizon sorta freeze for a minute in an rainbow indigo flash.... flying south down Juanita Drive with Miles and Kat.... going down st. edwards trail in the dark... going up the st. edwards trail (that was way fun)... getting lost in bellvue.

BTW:
Hey Trev, Nyyyyygaaaaaarrrrrd, Alex, Ripper and Hayduke... the group couldn't handle the stuff... I have halff the bottle left for Nyyyyyyyyyygaaaaaard's birfday ride.

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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:09 am Reply with quote
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koos42 wrote:
lotsa Burke-Gillman ---> more BGT
Rogellio falls (1)
Buy beer etc. at Albersons
more BGT ---> yet more BGT ---> EVEN MORE BGT!!!
tiny neighborhood ---> hill ---> bigger hill ---> long ass trail
religious university (semenary[sic] school)
long ass trail ---> water
beer/food/absolute (tastes so bad Paul pukes, I don't blame him)
Rogellio gets tanked (how, where, when ???)
up big dirt hill
group splits, some I-90, others BGT
bgt
rogellio falls (3 or 4, I missed some?)
rogellio falls in deep ass ditch w/ thorns (5)
swimming!!!!
pete_jr rides in floaty toy, socks, shoes, underwear, chrome bag, cast
BGT--->Sand Pt. Way --->BGT ---> Rogellio falls (6) ---x fremont


It was my first day riding around on clipless, which led me to the conclusion that I need to work on getting my left cleat to release; it does release, but by that time I laughing and on the floor. I do like that push/pull thing they do though.

Thanks to whoever pulled me out of the shrubbery ditch, that went down further than what I, briefly, thought it would.

The cherry on top of the evening though, was watching pete_jr try seduce the lady drivers of the evening with the gyrating thrust of his floaty toy clad hips.
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:23 am Reply with quote
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john wrote:
hehehheh...

damn... I was shocked that y'all found it a tad strong... the bottle right disappears at my parties... but perhaps the eyeliner helps. I will tone down the next batch to be mega easy... and I will bring a LOT of sugar cubes... it heelps.

I will admit this batch was a bit bitter... I usually let it swish back andd forth over my tounge... however this I stufff I was fine with it just gliding straight down. I did like the reduction of Anise and the addition of the peppers...

Highpoints... watching the sky turn solid and seeing everything in the horizon sorta freeze for a minute in an rainbow indigo flash.... flying south down Juanita Drive with Miles and Kat.... going down st. edwards trail in the dark... going up the st. edwards trail (that was way fun)... getting lost in bellvue.

BTW:
Hey Trev, Nyyyyygaaaaaarrrrrd, Alex, Ripper and Hayduke... the group couldn't handle the stuff... I have halff the bottle left for Nyyyyyyyyyygaaaaaard's birfday ride.


for the record, Absinthe, to the uninitiated, probably tastes like horses ass soaked in MEK.

I was one really pissed of panda not being able to make this trip. The new frame took longer to come together than i expected (one headset was binding and i had to take the whole steering assembly apart a few times to get it to seat correctly).

John...i will be there to help finish whats left!!! Maybe this winter i'll even get some imported to return the favior. I hear the restrictions may have been lifted.

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koos42 wrote:

Rogellio falls (1)
rogellio falls (3 or 4, I missed some?)
rogellio falls in deep ass ditch w/ thorns (5)
Rogellio falls (6)


:D good job with the clipless pedals. ;) They'll get easier, I promise...

the long way home was hard and fast... flying down juanita drive in a tight paceline, couple of hard-ass hillls to push through on the way, then bellevue to I-90. not terribly sorry i missed the naked-pete, to tell the truth... but i am going to be sore tomorrow.

ok... my ass needs to get to work... ugh.
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also: next time, someone will remember to bring some sugar... really makes the absinthe more palatable.
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surlykat wrote:
koos42 wrote:

Rogellio falls (1)
rogellio falls (3 or 4, I missed some?)
rogellio falls in deep ass ditch w/ thorns (5)
Rogellio falls (6)


:D good job with the clipless pedals. ;) They'll get easier, I promise...


#5 dealt more with the compromised status of my steering abilities, than the pedals.
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surlykat wrote:
also: next time, someone will remember to bring some sugar... really makes the absinthe more palatable.


i did toss up a reminder.

thats what you fuckers get for ignoring me!

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Quick question on that absinthe.

You say you "further purify" Everclear. How? doesn't look like that's possible to me.

Everclear is 190 proof, 95% alcohol, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol#Purification

Looks like you need industrial, poison-producing processes to increase it much past that.

Everclear is basically already an "azeotrope" which means it cannot be distilled further. Azeotrope in greek means "no change from boiling."

So I'd skip that first step and just get on to the soaking of the herbs and wormwood.

Looks like some distillation after the herbs/wormwood are in there might do us better, because: "The simple maceration of wormwood in alcohol without [subsequent] distillation produces an extremely bitter drink because of the presence of the water-soluble absinthine, one of the most bitter substances known to man."

That, sir, is a substance I assure you we tasted last night.

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surlykat wrote:
also: next time, someone will remember to bring some sugar... really makes the absinthe more palatable.


making the absinthe louche also works wonders. the thought of shooting absinthe makes me want to throw up in my mouth...
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mcrawfor wrote:
Looks like some distillation after the herbs/wormwood are in there might do us better, because: "The simple maceration of wormwood in alcohol without [subsequent] distillation produces an extremely bitter drink because of the presence of the water-soluble absinthine, one of the most bitter substances known to man."

That, sir, is a substance I assure you we tasted last night.


But operating a still is ... illegal ... ( !!! )
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nick.carter wrote:
mcrawfor wrote:
Looks like some distillation after the herbs/wormwood are in there might do us better, because: "The simple maceration of wormwood in alcohol without [subsequent] distillation produces an extremely bitter drink because of the presence of the water-soluble absinthine, one of the most bitter substances known to man."

That, sir, is a substance I assure you we tasted last night.


But operating a still is ... illegal ... ( !!! )



I was surprised, I have been making this for 10 years and this was the first collection of people that have ever complained. Usually it goes like koolaide at a grateful dead show.

Fermenting didn;t occur in old factory absinthe, it was just a purification procees... relatively resource intensive and also for this purpose unnecessary. If this has been cut 1-1 with water and dripped over a sugar cube it would have been indistinguishable from hungarian absinthe. I may have had the thujone content a little strong, but I like it that was as you feel the thujone more than the alchohol.

As for the distillation, it is not a purification of the ethanol, it is a filtering of the rough solutes from the artemisia absinthium. From the 1908 directions that are prominent on erowid (which is all we have of the historical process), it is apparent that you may steep and filter with equal success.

I am more than interested for someone to run a full distillation, I tend to not want to boil ethanol as the heat of Hv and Hc are rather close and in my experience what I have had commercially is not so different from what I make.

Anyway, it is a nice batch, the pepper flavoring is fairly good and I cut the anise down. I liked it. But Scotch is like water to me so I have a different sense of what is an easy sip.

It was a tad stronger than usual... I did reduce the flavoring portion and increase the wormwood portion... that is just my own personal bias as when I do have a bunch of absinthe drinkers together... it accelerates the path to madness.

Good stuff. Fun night!

Let's do it again!

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TrikerTrev wrote:
John...i will be there to help finish whats left!!! Maybe this winter i'll even get some imported to return the favior. I hear the restrictions may have been lifted.


What's left? hell... there's still a 5th left. It will be fun.

We need a longer ride though... more wooids... think of someplace... the woods out by monroe?

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bring it on thursday. im sure we'll find a way to finish it. and hey, i have friday off
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So after all the yammering and bullshit you guys didn't even drink the stuff?

I am not happy with the direction this group is moving in.

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henry wrote:
So after all the yammering and bullshit you guys didn't even drink the stuff?

I am not happy with the direction this group is moving in.


They were all to self concious to wear eyeliner too.

(no go on thursday, I have to rig off the top of safeco fielld at 8am friday... hangovers not allowecd)


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Look, I may be a giant pussy, and yes it's true I am, but I ain't drinking anything that tastes like starter fluid.

I did like the mini-coors light cans peter bought. Those were cute!
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jeff wrote:
Look, I may be a giant pussy, and yes it's true I am, but I ain't drinking anything that tastes like starter fluid.

I did like the mini-coors light cans peter bought. Those were cute!


Most off the girls drank it just fine.....

but they had eyeliner on...

it helps...

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i hope this thread gets hit by a car.
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