Alright, the events of the past few days have made me want to go to a freeway overpass and start chucking cinderblocks.
So in the interests of giving my self a chill-pill, getting started on making the bike signage the DOT seems incapable of doing itself and actually jumping bikes into Greenlake rather than just jawboning about it, let me present the following modest proposal:
Wednesday evening, anytime after about 6PM, my house. Let's make a bike ramp and signs.
I've got a full-sized truck with which to pick up supplies and plenty of tools with which to drill, cut and otherwise mangle stuff.
For the signs, let's just look at figuring out the stencils and testing them on various materials, etc to see what works well and is durable.
As for the ramp, I've got scrap lumber that we can use and a pair of bikes that need to be floation-ified.
I'll get some beer but knowing how all you inebriates drink, people will have to B at least some YOB or we'll be running as dry as prohibition in 10 minutes.
I'm at 4817 Greenwood Ave N which is up on Phinney Ridge just off the SW corner of Woodland Park. The house is on the SW corner of the intersection of 49th and Greenwood. My number is 2063537765.
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gsbarnes
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:45 am
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Properly speaking, this is all on Seattle, unless you're talking about State and Federal Highways. So SDOT can kiss our asses.
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Foo
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:47 am
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Duly noted!
J
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:19 pm
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Word up.
I'll bother my dad and see if there's any sign plywood, reflective goodness, &c at the yard that we can reuse.
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Finn
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:45 pm
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Have exacto.
Will travel.
J
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:51 pm
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dyou have spray paint at the homestead, foo? if not, yea, i shalt bringeth some.
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Foo
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:58 pm
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The homestead haveth lots of spray paint but a little extra never hurts. Any scrap construction material you can get would be great, too.
Foo
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:22 am
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Update:
Rogelio, Finn and J came by last night and in true .83 fashion, Finn did all the work while the rest of us sat around, drank and watched Finn work.
TEAMWORK!
So, Finn made a truly fabulous sharrow informational sign stencil and we've got plans for material/paint tinkering going.
If anyone out there has any knowledge of how the 'pros' do traffic sign construction and placement, it would be much appreciated.
Incidentally, for the build team - I was rubbernecking at signs on the way in this morning and a lot of them seem to be made out of some sort of fiberboard. That may be our best bet as it would be very easy to cut and router to spec as well as having a good, smooth painting surface.
The big question for me is how to mount them. Official steel band hangers run >$15 per sign which is way too much for this project. Ideas? I'd just as soon avoid any attachment technique that require drilling into utility and elec poles - that may get us a little *too* much attention from SDOT.
jeff
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:26 am
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You are awre that any sign you hang will be deamed illegal by SDOT and quickly removed.
SDOT even went so far as removing orange flags in Wallingford. Residents had been using them to make several intersections safer to cross.
Foo
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:38 am
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Yes, we're aiming for making the signs as official-looking and up to code as possible so that the SDOT takes a while to catch on. As long as the signs are cheap and quick to produce, it should be possible to make sure that at least some are always up.
The ultimate goal is not to be responsible for the signage - that's the SDOT's job - but rather to generate enough publicity in a positive way that it forces the city to act.
langston
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:49 am
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Foo wrote:
The ultimate goal is not to be responsible for the signage - that's the SDOT's job - but rather to generate enough publicity in a positive way that it forces the city to act.
pardon me for not being up to speed, but what exactly is it that you want the city to do? Things like bicycle transportation systems take a little time to implement what with union-labor rates and all.
SeattleLikesBikes needs it's own forum.
TrikerTrev
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:59 am
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langston wrote:
Foo wrote:
The ultimate goal is not to be responsible for the signage - that's the SDOT's job - but rather to generate enough publicity in a positive way that it forces the city to act.
pardon me for not being up to speed, but what exactly is it that you want the city to do? Things like bicycle transportation systems take a little time to implement what with union-labor rates and all.
SeattleLikesBikes needs it's own forum.
and a TOS!!!
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ksep
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:52 pm
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Foo wrote:
If anyone out there has any knowledge of how the 'pros' do traffic sign construction and placement, it would be much appreciated.
If the plan is the paint on the pavement, I've noticed that there are two distinct steps.
Step 1: Paint with a spray gun
Step 2: Sprinkle on sparkly reflective stuff while paint is still wet.
I'm not sure what's in the paint to make it thick and receptive to the reflective material they throw into it immediately afterwards.
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Finn
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:14 pm
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Dear friends, only so much about this project can or should be discussed on the internet. We are making road signs (for recreational home use only) and need cheap, official looking ways to attach them to the utility poles in our homes and offices. We may also create sharrows,non-skid colored bike crossings, and other faux infrastructure for use on our driveways and garage floors. I also recommend we edit our posts down to vegetable matter once this all goes into action.
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the dreaded ben
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:18 pm
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after this, can we do the south end of the ballard bridge that's in my home or office?
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:20 pm
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the dreaded ben wrote:
after this, can we do the south end of the ballard bridge that's in my home or office?
I'm working on a bike powered hydrolic ram for that one.
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