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jeff
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:34 pm Reply with quote
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"death machines in a hilly city like Seattle"

http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/09/making_biking_safer
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Seven
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:46 pm Reply with quote
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no one ever seems to realize that since you can't stop pedaling, it's physically impossible to reach speeds as high as on a free wheel, and even if you're surprised, a single brake should never be under any excessive duress.
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dennyt
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:53 pm Reply with quote
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Erica better not make me bust out the graph paper... grrrrrr
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wakingjonas
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:53 pm Reply with quote
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Seven wrote:
no one ever seems to realize that since you can't stop pedaling, it's physically impossible to reach speeds as high as on a free wheel


for real
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henry
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:57 pm Reply with quote
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Riding a fixed gear is absolutely more dangerous than a similarly maintained and setup freewheel bike. This is particularly the case of inexperienced riders whose muscle memory still gives them the stop pedaling and pull the brake levers response to an emergency stop.

That being said, i think i'm going to take REO Speedwagon (my fixed gear) for a spin tonight, because it's fun as hell to ride.

The very idea of the Stranger being anti-fixed gear cracks me up.

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Seven
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:00 pm Reply with quote
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henry wrote:
This is particularly the case of inexperienced riders whose muscle memory still gives them the stop pedaling and pull the brake levers response to an emergency stop.


I definitely agree with this, though, it's definitely the key. Relaxing your legs and trusting that one brake to do that trick is pretty much the most retarded thing you can do when trying to stop your fixie fast, it's all about resistance, but you guys know that.
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koos42
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:05 pm Reply with quote
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I think she just made coined the central theme to a new hipster clothing line...

"Death Machine" the response to all those "give hipsters a brake" tees.

I liked the article a lot. She gave bikers enough crap such that drivers won't totally disregard the article, but she faulted drivers enough to get the point across. She should have bolded "Without brakes", as her bolding makes it seem like all fixies are death machines, as opposed to those without brakes.

Lube is love,
Tire pressure supreme,
I love riding my fixie,
It's my dream machine.
— C. Hadrann
from here
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pete jr
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:43 am Reply with quote
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i think this argument of fixed vs. free is precisely as retarded as snowboard vs. skis. just because they're different people assume that one is inherently less safe, when the truth is there are idiots and assholes on both sides of the fence. i don't think the average dude that rides fixed with a brake is any less safe than the average dude that rides free with a brake. look at all the fucking idiots on the BGT every day.

i know i probably shouldn't even be posting in a thread about bicycle safety, but hell ass damn, this kind of stars-vs-stripes nonsense really sticks in my craw. though, what else is the slog (maybe even the internet) for?
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the dreaded ben
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:34 am Reply with quote
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this just in:

the stranger defines irony.
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SeditiousCanary
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:37 am Reply with quote
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pete jr wrote:
i think this argument of fixed vs. free is precisely as retarded as snowboard vs. skis.

Seriously. I mean what's next? Tyres versus no tyres?

Sheesh.
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keyholefish
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:21 am Reply with quote
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tyres are a death trap. ride on tires.
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jeff
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:24 am Reply with quote
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Geared bikes spread disease.
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rob
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:31 am Reply with quote
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I hear that tricycles will give you a severe case of butt-rot.
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joeball
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:50 am Reply with quote
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rob wrote:
I hear that tricycles will give you a severe case of butt-rot.


SKETCHY rides a trike?
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the dreaded ben
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:53 am Reply with quote
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joeball wrote:
SKETCHY rides a trike?

nope, just my nerves.
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brandonallamerican
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:55 pm Reply with quote
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Seven wrote:
henry wrote:
This is particularly the case of inexperienced riders whose muscle memory still gives them the stop pedaling and pull the brake levers response to an emergency stop.


I definitely agree with this, though, it's definitely the key. Relaxing your legs and trusting that one brake to do that trick is pretty much the most retarded thing you can do when trying to stop your fixie fast, it's all about resistance, but you guys know that.



i want a fixie now so i can defy death even more

woah my first post
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henry
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:03 pm Reply with quote
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brandonallamerican wrote:

woah my first post


And WOW, was it a doozy!


We're not mean enough to noobs on this forum.

ALSO: I need to take a shit, but can't decide which of the 4 toilets in my house I should poop in.

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derrickito
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:10 pm Reply with quote
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why are toilets the only places up for consideration?
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Eric_s
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:42 pm Reply with quote
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derrickito wrote:
why are toilets the only places up for consideration?


Yeah henry, how many bathtubs/sinks do you have?

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henry
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:47 pm Reply with quote
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Eric_s wrote:
derrickito wrote:
why are toilets the only places up for consideration?


Yeah henry, how many bathtubs/sinks do you have?


3 bathtubs, 5 sinks.

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Eric_s
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:51 pm Reply with quote
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henry wrote:
Eric_s wrote:
derrickito wrote:
why are toilets the only places up for consideration?


Yeah henry, how many bathtubs/sinks do you have?


3 bathtubs, 5 sinks.


Perfect, a plethora of pooping places!

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Foo
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:54 pm Reply with quote
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henry wrote:
3 bathtubs, 5 sinks.

How many easy chairs?
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TrikerTrev
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:55 pm Reply with quote
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even better...blindfold yourself and wander around till you can turtle no more.

keep the blindfold on and find a way away from the stench.

it will be surprise for everybody

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wingedc0w
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:11 pm Reply with quote
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I read all the mumbo jumbo, and made a cartoon.
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Matthew
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:56 pm Reply with quote
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henry wrote:
brandonallamerican wrote:

woah my first post


And WOW, was it a doozy!


We're not mean enough to noobs on this forum.
.


I concur. We need a .83 hazing and initiation ritual subcommittee. I nominate myself to be head of the nomination and member selection group. If you think you've got what it takes, then abuse me and I'll forward your name to the selection caucus.
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surlykat
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:04 pm Reply with quote
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Matthew wrote:
I concur. We need a .83 hazing and initiation ritual subcommittee. I nominate myself to be head of the nomination and member selection group. If you think you've got what it takes, then abuse me and I'll forward your name to the selection caucus.


good on ya for taking the lead. sounds to me like no one in this club knows hazing like you do, so you should teach us all a lesson.

...

why am i posting on point eight three while i'm in hawaii? i should be drinking.
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patr0ck
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:12 pm Reply with quote
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surlykat wrote:
why am i posting on point eight three while i'm in hawaii? i should be drinking.


Why are you posting to point eight three while you aren't drinking? Doesn't that call into question your dedication to this club?

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FieryIrie
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:53 pm Reply with quote
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Yeayy! Kat's in Hawaii! I'm at Kat's apartment! Henry's pooping in sinks while blindfolded and The Stranger, ironically, poo poos fixies!
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Rogelio
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:16 am Reply with quote
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surlykat wrote:
why am i posting on point eight three while i'm in hawaii? i should be drinking.
Mai Tai.

Oh, do they have those coconuts with the top eighth cut off so you can stick a straw in it? Those rock.

Matthew wrote:
I concur. We need a .83 hazing and initiation ritual subcommittee. I nominate myself to be head of the nomination and member selection group. If you think you've got what it takes, then abuse me and I'll forward your name to the selection caucus.

I know when to stop and carry around electric tape, I'd like to put my name in that hat. I'm aware of your schooling background but I'm patient and persistent, and believe I would be a valuable contributing member of the subcommittee. Please refer to my earlier flash-torture.
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langston
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:26 am Reply with quote
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Matthew wrote:



I concur. We need a .83 hazing and initiation ritual subcommittee. I nominate myself to be head of the nomination and member selection group. If you think you've got what it takes, then abuse me and I'll forward your name to the selection caucus.


I would like to join this subcomittee. I have already chaired a similar post while in college, hazing the sass out of rookie tuba players. I loved seeing fat people cry, and bike newbies should at least have to do some on-spot bike repair with me sitting on them screaming in their ear.


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TrikerTrev
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:29 am Reply with quote
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are you saying thats the ONLY thing you'll be doing in their ear?

oh and to be clear, you're NOT hazin the girls, right? Is'nt that Aarons job?

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J
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:55 am Reply with quote
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I am pro hazing subcommittee as long as I can reenact my glorious abuse of sketchy's head on a hapless rider every now and then. even though I'm probably still technically a noob.

and we should have backpatches. like the dead babies. because *then* we'd be Cool.

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Eric_s
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:27 am Reply with quote
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FYI, Hazing = drunken sacktap. also hazing = riding rocky trails on a fixed gear with 23mm tires and no brakes. WHOOPS GET A REAL BIKE (or at least one with versatile equipment, like a brake)

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pete jr
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 11:42 am Reply with quote
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henry wrote:
ALSO: I need to take a shit, but can't decide which of the 4 toilets in my house I should poop in.

I was next to your house Thursday morning and was thinking about pooping on your front step.
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koos42
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:49 pm Reply with quote
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On the topic of hazing, I want to see someone end up in the large trash can full of dough at the bread dumpster. The use of plastic bags to protect clothing could be optional. Funny how most of us new people are piping up to haze other new people. It's like cannibalism, like if we were to bake the person encased in dough from the dumpster, and then eat 'em.
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SeditiousCanary
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:57 pm Reply with quote
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Back when I joined, you were given a mildly annoying nickname. Although it seems one person would ever remember to use it, and would then use it when the saw you, and then never gain until they saw you again on a different occasion.

Well, that and the machette fights.
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derrickito
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:00 pm Reply with quote
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gatorade, it's been forever since we've had a good machete fight.
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joeball
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:20 pm Reply with quote
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SeditiousCanary wrote:
Back when I joined, you were given a mildly annoying nickname. Although it seems one person would ever remember to use it, and would then use it when the saw you, and then never gain until they saw you again on a different occasion.

Well, that and the machette fights.


Well that was if you actually stood out enough for some seniors to even take note of your existence on your first ride. Showing up on a hacked fixie conversion with a messenger bag just doesn't cut it.
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Remington
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:20 pm Reply with quote
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koos42 wrote:
Funny how most of us new people are piping up to haze other new people.
Yeah, wtf? You're all noobs.
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SeditiousCanary
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:24 pm Reply with quote
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joeball wrote:
Well that was if you actually stood out enough for some seniors to even take note of your existence on your first ride.

Me FTW!!!
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