Joined: 25 Jul 2005Posts: 5547Location: Columbia City
protaghiro wrote:
let me tell you the brief story of my final ride with .83.
once upon a time we were riding along towards west seattle / alki when all of a sudden my chain came loose. zoom, zoom, zoom you all rode past me. one guy stopped and asked if i had tools? 'yes' i replied. then he was gone as well. i was unable to repair the chain with the tools i had, hence i was 'dropped' and had a really fun walk home.
the moral of the story? if you are not a cute girl or a popular member, the group will not wait for you, and you are left to fend for yourself somewhere near boeing field.
the end.
usually, the group will stop in that instance, if sufficient hollering and notification is provided. People 50yds ahead of you don't know/care what's going on behind them unless you make them aware of it. Speak up, son!
Personally, I'd love to just drop everyone who has a more techincal issue then a flat or chain throw, unless we're out in BFE and/or they don't know how to get home. And yes, I'm not being hypocritical here; when my bike breaks down more cataclysmically, I send the group along and take myself home.
Lessons: Pump your tires before you leave the house. Get or learn how to do regular basic maintinance on your bike. Replace your bald tires. Don't whine.
Stanglor
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:12 pm
Joined: 28 Jan 2006Posts: 555Location: Wallingford
protaghiro wrote:
let me tell you the brief story of my final ride with .83.
once upon a time we were riding along towards west seattle / alki when all of a sudden my chain came loose. zoom, zoom, zoom you all rode past me. one guy stopped and asked if i had tools? 'yes' i replied. then he was gone as well. i was unable to repair the chain with the tools i had, hence i was 'dropped' and had a really fun walk home.
the moral of the story? if you are not a cute girl or a popular member, the group will not wait for you, and you are left to fend for yourself somewhere near boeing field.
the end.
And hear I thought the moral was don't say "yes" when the answer is "no"
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protaghiro
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:30 pm
Joined: 24 Jul 2005Posts: 52
i have seen the group stop for people, but in this case it was early in the ride and i feel that people were already anxious to get to the final destination so they could begin the group's /real/ favorite activity - binge drinking on a beach somewhere.
the tendency of .83 is for the regulars to bunch up front, while the noobs take up the rear. the chances of someone stopping who is already trailing behind is null and void. maybe / hopefully things have changed. perhaps i will give it another shot sometime.
TrikerTrev
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:44 pm
Joined: 23 Oct 2006Posts: 2303Location: FOCO, MOFO!!!
dang
not only does that suck, and i'm personally sad to hear that, i dont think it's quite fair to say that because you're not a seasoned member of a hottie that we abandon folks on purpose.
Dozens of rides i've been on and we ALWAYS stop. Hell, I make a point to make sure the stragglers are accounted for. And if it's not me, then theres always someone back there picking up the rear.
Is there the slightest possibility you didn't make the extent of your situation known? Was it fixable in the first place? Have you since resorted to bringing basic bike tools so you dont get stranded in the first place? Rule numero uno in my biking book is to make sure you can fix your bike well enough to get home.
granted, when this group rides, it rides. It by no means shuns folks because of looks...are you kidding me? Have you LOOKED at these dorks in the light of day?
again, sorry dude. im sure your cute enough to ride with us again if you wish.
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Foo
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:44 pm
Joined: 27 Jul 2007Posts: 583
From what I've seen, the group tends to split up later in the rides but usually, that's when people are peeling off anyway. Generally, I've noticed at least one old hand tends to run sweep on the outbound leg at least and there's usually plenty of stop breaks on hills to let people catch up.
mcrawfor
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:00 pm
Joined: 09 May 2006Posts: 1039Location: Ballard
Stanglor wrote:
And hear I thought the moral was don't say "yes" when the answer is "no"
God if I only knew how many times that has gotten me...
_________________ -miles
lantius
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:04 pm
1337Joined: 22 Jul 2005Posts: 6705Location: right over
protaghiro wrote:
i have seen the group stop for people, but in this case it was early in the ride and i feel that people were already anxious to get to the final destination so they could begin the group's /real/ favorite activity - binge drinking on a beach somewhere.
the tendency of .83 is for the regulars to bunch up front, while the noobs take up the rear. the chances of someone stopping who is already trailing behind is null and void. maybe / hopefully things have changed. perhaps i will give it another shot sometime.
when was this? i don't think i've seen you out in a looonng while. who IS the boss?
anyhow, i know the group isn't perfect but the number of people dropped with mechanicals and needing to walk home is, as far as i know, still on the small side. you're not a noob, you're an oldtimer. if i'm riding with you and you say "i've got the tools for this" when it's something quick like retensioning your chain then i'm inclined to let you fix it and catch up. it's certainly easier than trying to wrangle the group.
i guess what i'm saying is i'm sorry you got missed, but please don't assume that is somehow de rigueur for the group. you have to have ridden with us enough times to see us stop for mechanicals (and the occasional biological) from all kinds of riders, popular, ugly, cute, n00b, etc.
TrikerTrev
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:05 pm
Joined: 23 Oct 2006Posts: 2303Location: FOCO, MOFO!!!
protaghiro wrote:
...people were already anxious to get to the final destination so they could begin the group's /real/ favorite activity - binge drinking on a beach somewhere.
you say that like its a bad thing
protaghiro wrote:
the tendency of .83 is for the regulars to bunch up front, while the noobs take up the rear...maybe / hopefully things have changed. perhaps i will give it another shot sometime.
yes, this is how it can and usually will work, but please...we've all had to start from 0 and grow into this band of idiots. Maybe a good nut punch to a seasoned rider will break the ice (and their sac) and you can inform folks not to ride like dicks.
wait...what am i saying?
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langston
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:11 pm
Joined: 25 Jul 2005Posts: 5547Location: Columbia City
mcrawfor wrote:
Stanglor wrote:
And hear I thought the moral was don't say "yes" when the answer is "no"
God if I only knew how many times that has gotten me...
gotten you what, laid? The police at your door?
BJs are so much better when they're crying as they gag.
koos42
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:23 pm
Joined: 10 Jul 2007Posts: 367Location: ON YOUR LEFT! your other left.
langston wrote:
mcrawfor wrote:
Stanglor wrote:
And hear I thought the moral was don't say "yes" when the answer is "no"
God if I only knew how many times that has gotten me...
gotten you what, laid? The police at your door?
BJs are so much better when they're crying as they gag.
now with 50 percent more EVILJoined: 22 Jul 2005Posts: 10566
we've never turned off anyones account before. leave it on or ill turn yours off.
(if you dont turn mine off first)
Rogelio
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:28 pm
Joined: 31 Jul 2007Posts: 3092Location: Pos, aya, por la Corona-Alta-Madera y que no.
jeff wrote:
I hate to use you (Rogellio) as an example but I remember going back to dig you out of the bushes a few times on the absinthe ride. (Anytime brother).
Awesome, so that was you; my vantage point was less than optimal (and I might have been mildly inebriated at the time).
Don't forget that I also had a splendid double pinch flat from improper inflation and had everyone stop for me.
But then again, I'm hella pretty.
Remington
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:12 pm
Joined: 23 Jan 2006Posts: 457Location: Remington Country
derrickito wrote:
leave it on or ill turn yours off.
(if you dont turn mine off first)
The gods are restless. We might soon witness a flame war of epic proportions that might possibly destroy everything that we know and love. Who knows whether we will live to see the end of it.
lantius
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:14 pm
1337Joined: 22 Jul 2005Posts: 6705Location: right over
Remington wrote:
The gods are restless. We might soon witness a flame war of epic proportions that might possibly destroy everything that we know and love. Who knows whether we will live to see the end of it.
i've got backups!
TrikerTrev
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:28 pm
Joined: 23 Oct 2006Posts: 2303Location: FOCO, MOFO!!!
Rogelio wrote:
Don't forget that I also had a splendid double pinch flat from improper inflation and had everyone stop for me.
But then again, I'm hella pretty.
that was Henrys problem
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Remington
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:05 pm
Joined: 23 Jan 2006Posts: 457Location: Remington Country
Foo wrote:
No, it's more advanced than that. I might bring a prototype tomorrow night, although I don't know why I should bother. I'm not on the n00b Protection Committee...
jamesw
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:14 pm
Joined: 18 Sep 2006Posts: 149
langston wrote:
BJs are so much better when they're crying as they gag.
Christmas and Valentine's day or do you get the Fourth of July, too now
Remington
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:01 pm
Joined: 23 Jan 2006Posts: 457Location: Remington Country
derrickito wrote:
we've never turned off anyones account before.
I now find it suspicious that Jace's signature is "Profile Deleted." Whatever happened to that guy anyways?
joby
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:06 pm
goes to elevenJoined: 25 Jul 2005Posts: 3899Location: The Cloud
derrickito wrote:
we've never turned off anyones account before. leave it on or ill turn yours off.
(if you dont turn mine off first)
You turned F-stop's account off!
derrickito
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:04 pm
now with 50 percent more EVILJoined: 22 Jul 2005Posts: 10566
oh you're right. forgot about that one. was only for a short time. i turned it back on. he was being a tard barge.
ok, precedent set!
laura
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:01 pm
Joined: 22 Jun 2007Posts: 1050Location: wherever the dance party is
Remington wrote:
No, it's more advanced than that. I might bring a prototype tomorrow night, although I don't know why I should bother. I'm not on the n00b Protection Committee...
Damn it, first of all, I am no longer a n00b. (Thank you, Sarah) Second of all Remington, did I mistakenly mistake you as a good guy? :D What in the hell are you planning for? Third of all, you won't be seeing me for a bit ... other aspects of life are interferring with .83 rides. Plan accordingly! :)
Remington
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:58 pm
Joined: 23 Jan 2006Posts: 457Location: Remington Country
laura wrote:
Remington wrote:
No, it's more advanced than that. I might bring a prototype tomorrow night, although I don't know why I should bother. I'm not on the n00b Protection Committee...
Damn it, first of all, I am no longer a n00b. (Thank you, Sarah) Second of all Remington, did I mistakenly mistake you as a good guy? :D What in the hell are you planning for? Third of all, you won't be seeing me for a bit ... other aspects of life are interferring with .83 rides. Plan accordingly! :)
No no, not you. I was calling Matthew a n00b. I realized that I don't care if you leave him lifeless and unresponsive in an alley in Fremont so that somebody can find him sometime Friday after a ride. I don't even know him. That's why I won't be building or bringing my prototype...yet. ;)
Come back soon!
laura
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:04 pm
Joined: 22 Jun 2007Posts: 1050Location: wherever the dance party is
Remington wrote:
No no, not you. I was calling Matthew a n00b.
Duly noted.
Remington wrote:
Come back soon!
Deal. :)
joby
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:14 pm
goes to elevenJoined: 25 Jul 2005Posts: 3899Location: The Cloud
langston wrote:
mcrawfor wrote:
Stanglor wrote:
And hear I thought the moral was don't say "yes" when the answer is "no"
God if I only knew how many times that has gotten me...
gotten you what, laid? The police at your door?
BJs are so much better when they're crying as they gag.
Quick Yes/No cheat sheet:
Sex: No mean No
Broken bike help: No means Yes
Derrick wanting cheeseburgers: Yes means Yes
This was really fun, Derrick call you some time: Yes means No
I realized that I don't care if you leave him lifeless and unresponsive in an alley in Fremont so that somebody can find him sometime Friday after a ride. I don't even know him. That's why I won't be building or bringing my prototype...yet. ;)
Come back soon!
I'm so scared! I knew I shouldn't have come out tonight! I'm so sorry mum! I'm sooo *tear*...
Okay, that's it. I'm not coming tuesday. Or thursday, unless I get some sort of guarantee there won't be any women. Or at least scary beat the piss out of me women.
Rogelio
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:54 pm
Joined: 31 Jul 2007Posts: 3092Location: Pos, aya, por la Corona-Alta-Madera y que no.
Matthew wrote:
I'm so scared! I knew I shouldn't have come out tonight! I'm so sorry mum! I'm sooo *tear*...
Okay, that's it. I'm not coming tuesday. Or thursday, unless I get some sort of guarantee there won't be any women. Or at least scary beat the piss out of me women.
I guarantee your safety, Matthew; I don't mind getting knocked about by women.
You're my bitch now btw.
Everyone: Matthew is my bitch... you want him, you talk to me.
Remington
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:05 pm
Joined: 23 Jan 2006Posts: 457Location: Remington Country
Rogelio wrote:
Everyone: Matthew is my bitch... you want him, you talk to me.
He's all yours.
derrickito
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:28 pm
now with 50 percent more EVILJoined: 22 Jul 2005Posts: 10566
congrats rogelio, you just won yourself a smallish bald guy that no one will trade you a pack of cigarettes for
:)
Aaron
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:38 pm
Joined: 25 Jul 2005Posts: 4645
joby wrote:
Quick Yes/No cheat sheet:
Sex: No mean No
Except for in a certian underground basement of a certian "Bat Cave", right?
henry
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:18 pm
somewhat piggishJoined: 05 Aug 2005Posts: 5415Location: on porch with shotgun
Aaron wrote:
joby wrote:
Quick Yes/No cheat sheet:
Sex: No mean No
Except for in a certian underground basement of a certian "Bat Cave", right?
*glare*
You children seriously need to take your shit elsewhere, like the craigslist rants and raves or something.
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