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Seven

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:14 pm

suddenly quite whiny! Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 345 Location: Cap Hill

so I got my bike all working and pretty again, but anyone know any places around here that do powdercoating? I want to schnazz it up a little extra.

SeditiousCanary

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:19 pm

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Seven wrote:

so I got my bike all working and pretty again, but anyone know any places around here that do powdercoating? I want to schnazz it up a little extra.

I do and I'm putting an order together. I've got two or three frames and forks to go so far. It'll be about three weeks before I take them in though. Should be about $100 for blasting and coating. I don't think they have a color charge, so I don't think they will charge extra if you want a different color than me.

Seven

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:26 pm

suddenly quite whiny! Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 345 Location: Cap Hill

oh totally rad, what color are you doing? Also, I don't know much about the process, can I pretty much get anything coated without it effecting preformance? Like if I threw my cranks, stem, things like that in there, is anything going to be mucked up?

SeditiousCanary

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:58 pm

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Seven wrote:

I wouldn't get anything which wasn't metal powdercoated. You want to mask the threads if you can, or at least be ready to run a tap through them after. On cranks, I'd mask the spot the chainring and bolt attach to and the tapers. On stems, I'd mask the inside of the clamping area. I'd also remove all bolts, wedges, and threaded bits.

Matthew

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:12 pm

rookie Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 1173 Location: Sur le nord-ouest des Ã‰tats-Unis, pret de la frontier QuÃ©bÃ©cois

Along the lines of powdercoating, does anyone in the area do anodization? My 'cross bike is anodized, and it's great because it is basically rust proof, grit proof and scratch proof. Plus washing it is criminally easy.

Conversely, my commuter/foul weather bike is metallic orange, and it's already starting to dull and foul. I'd like to get it anodized before it starts to get down to the frame's metal.

SeditiousCanary

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:26 pm

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Matthew wrote:

I'd like to get it anodized before it starts to get down to the frame's metal.

Only if it's an alloy frame.

Alex

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:31 pm

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 3128 Location: Roosevelt

SeditiousCanary wrote:

Matthew wrote:

I'd like to get it anodized before it starts to get down to the frame's metal.

Only if it's an alloy frame.

Almost all frames are alloy, I think you meant aluminum alloy.

SeditiousCanary

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:56 pm

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Alex wrote:

Almost all frames are alloy, I think you meant aluminum alloy.

If I'd meant steel, I'd would have said steel. :)

Matthew

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:54 pm

rookie Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 1173 Location: Sur le nord-ouest des Ã‰tats-Unis, pret de la frontier QuÃ©bÃ©cois

Yes, it's aluminium. I know that it's trek's "alpha SLR" alloy. What that translates into in terms of industry alloys (I.e. 5506 or 7700, etc.), I don't know.

Are you saying you know a place that does this?

SeditiousCanary

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:40 pm

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Matthew wrote:

Are you saying you know a place that does this?

No.

I'm so helpful...

Uncle Martha

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:03 pm

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 343 Location: Cap. Hill / Madison Valley

Keep me posted about when this is going down. I've got my IRO frame here, never been built up or anything.

Do you know what the range of colors is?

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SeditiousCanary

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:56 pm

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Uncle Martha wrote:

Do you know what the range of colors is?

Solid? I think he's just having a hard time getting stock on plaid and herringbone. But he has argyle and polka dots on order.

Uncle Martha

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:33 pm

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 343 Location: Cap. Hill / Madison Valley

SeditiousCanary wrote:

Uncle Martha wrote:

Do you know what the range of colors is?

Solid? I think he's just having a hard time getting stock on plaid and herringbone. But he has argyle and polka dots on order.

Alright, smartypants. All I want is a solid (metal-flake) color.

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derrickito

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:55 pm

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chris, i want in on this. i want to put a new coat of baby blue on my fixie. fill me in on the details next time you see me

Seven

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:04 pm

suddenly quite whiny! Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 345 Location: Cap Hill

I would kill for an argyle bike.

SeditiousCanary

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:32 pm

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Uncle Martha wrote:

Alright, smartypants. All I want is a solid (metal-flake) color.

I'm not sure he does flake stuff, but I'll ask.

Alex

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:34 pm

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 3128 Location: Roosevelt

Uncle Martha wrote:

SeditiousCanary wrote:

Uncle Martha wrote:

Do you know what the range of colors is?

Solid? I think he's just having a hard time getting stock on plaid and herringbone. But he has argyle and polka dots on order.

Alright, smartypants. All I want is a solid (metal-flake) color.

There are metal-flake colors available in powder. A friend has a silver powder coated that has metal-flake overboard. He had it done in Spokane though.

Chris -- Are you going to the place in Mulketio? If you are doing anything in black or silver I might be interested in throwing a rack or two into the mix. I have some bikes to powdercoat too, but probably in the spring.

haulincolin

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:37 pm

Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 271 Location: at work

Quote:

Alex wrote:
Almost all frames are alloy, I think you meant aluminum alloy.

If I'd meant steel, I'd would have said steel. :)

I think Alex was pointing out the misnomer common in the bicycle industry (and maybe elsewhere) of calling aluminum parts "alloy." Sure, you're aluminum parts are an alloy, but so are your steel parts. They're an alloy of iron, chromium, molybdenum, and some other stuff. In fact almost everything made of metal is an alloy. It's ridiculous to try to identify only aluminum parts as "alloy."

Also: if your bike is made of aluminum (and therefore able to be anodized--steel things aren't), it's already rust-proof.

SeditiousCanary

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:51 pm

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Sorry guys, I wasn't expecting a peer review journal like analysis of my usage of "alloy" when speaking about bike frames and anodizing.

Clearly, all metals in your bike are alloys of some kind. Nothing is pure. I colloquially used "alloy" when referring to anodizing a frame when I should have said an aluminum alloy frame.

keyholefish

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:04 am

Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 268 Location: somerville, ma

Blah, blah blah. only iron-alloy frames rust. Carbon-fiber-alloy frames just break. Polysiloxane alloys make things jiggly. You could anodize it yourself, with a welder and huge tank of acid.

Uncle Martha

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:41 am

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 343 Location: Cap. Hill / Madison Valley

keyholefish wrote:

Blah, blah blah. only iron-alloy frames rust. Carbon-fiber-alloy frames just break. Polysiloxane alloys make things jiggly. You could anodize it yourself, with a welder and huge tank of acid.

Hilarion alloy makes everything funny.

pete jr

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:37 pm

Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 1930 Location: balls deepx

chris, i am also down for this. i want to repaint henry's old fuji.

jamesw

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:05 pm

Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 149

I have an older steel Fuji in need of a new paint job and powder coating sounds better than urinating on it (to remove the flaking clear coat) as Langston suggested.

I volunteer to help with the logistics of dropping off the frames/forks and picking them up, if that, in fact, would be helpful.

James

SeditiousCanary

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:23 pm

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jamesw wrote:

I volunteer to help with the logistics of dropping off the frames/forks and picking them up, if that, in fact, would be helpful.

I have off Mondays, Tuesdays, and most of Wednesdays, so I shouldn't have a problem picking up and dropping off. I'll let you know though.

Aaron

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:15 pm

Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 4645

SeditiousCanary wrote:

Alex wrote:

Almost all frames are alloy, I think you meant aluminum alloy.

If I'd meant steel, I'd would have said steel. :)

Iron!

Eric_s

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:58 pm

Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 1691 Location: the dirty south

Aaron wrote:

Iron!

PURE UNOBTANIUM!!!!

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langston

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:00 pm

Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 5547 Location: Columbia City

Eric_s wrote:

Aaron wrote:

Iron!

PURE UNOBTANIUM!!!!

They make the eyepieces on sunglasses out of Unobtanium. True story.

Happy Stick Person

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:14 am

Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 1168 Location: Leschi

bump...

and I have a frame that needs to get in on this. so when, where, and how many dollars?

EDIT

come to think of it I have two frames that could use some love...

zuvembi

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:30 am

Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 942 Location: Little Addis Ababa

Happy Stick Person wrote:

bump...

and I have a frame that needs to get in on this. so when, where, and how many dollars?

EDIT

come to think of it I have two frames that could use some love...

I also need to get this done.

Anyone have an idea if there would there be any discount for a prepped frame? I've already stripped most of the paint off the frame, but if there's no difference I might as well leave it like it is.

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Drunkan

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:08 pm

Joined: 09 Sep 2007 Posts: 95 Location: Wallingford

Confused.

Are we powder coating, anodizing or pissing on our bikes? 'Cause if we're powder coating and the price is right I just might be down.

Also are we getting a bulk deal if we bring so many parts? Will they bead blast? who are these people? Why am I still writing this?/

Seven

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:10 pm

suddenly quite whiny! Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 345 Location: Cap Hill

Drunkan wrote:

Well all I'm talking about is powder coating, and all I really want to get done is my frame. But I don't have any details on prices or the place.

pete jr

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:11 pm

Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 1930 Location: balls deepx

SeditiousCanary wrote:

It'll be about three weeks before I take them in though. Should be about $100 for blasting and coating.

first reply :)

Drunkan

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:29 pm

Joined: 09 Sep 2007 Posts: 95 Location: Wallingford

Thanks for the research I'm just lazy. Last page first, ask question get answer and life is good.

mississippi

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:38 pm

Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 258 Location: cap hill

if this deal is still going on i have a frame i'd like coated and on that needs to be bead blasted too.

does any one know how does blasting in the area for an affordable amount?? or someone with a cabinet that would sell me some time on it. i had my own powdercoating gig at one time so i know how to do it, i just don't have the facilities to make it happen

keep me posted if this bird gets off of the ground.

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Uncle Martha

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:53 pm

Joined: 18 May 2006 Posts: 343 Location: Cap. Hill / Madison Valley

Hey, Chris

Is this going to happen this week?

I'm flying out Monday (10/8) and won't be back for three weeks.

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SeditiousCanary

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:34 pm

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I will be counting up names, PMing interested parties, and trying to set up a time to collect money and "things to be powdercoated". I'd like to do it next week, so think Sun/Mon as days to have money and stuff for me. Also, I don't have a clear idea yet about color options or if there is an upcharge for wanting a color other than battleship grey. If this color offends you, you may need to pay a bit extra, but I'll know more by Friday. Same is true for small parts. I'll know more about them at the same time as I know about color options.

Cost: $110.00 (Probably less, and you'll get money back if so, I just can't front it)
Turn around: About one week from drop off.
Requirements:
- No carbon fiber anything. None. Not possible. I'll just take the $110 as a stupid tax.
- Stripped frames (i.e.: stipped of all parts)
- No hardware in any small parts
- Remove any stickers you can, etc.
- Please clean anything as best you can (i.e., no grease blobs, road dirt, chain goop).

jamesw

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:22 pm

Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 149

Is there a color palette somewheres online to look at?

If not, I will just go with Battleship Grey.

If enough people do it we will have our own armada.

SeditiousCanary

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:26 pm

sorry, can't make it! Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 2315 Location: Fremont Troll

There are a sellection of colors, but stock is limited to what they have on hand. If you tell me what you want, I'll see if I can get it. Bonus points for giving me a color index number.

jamesw

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:36 pm

Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 149

SeditiousCanary wrote:

There are a sellection of colors, but stock is limited to what they have on hand. If you tell me what you want, I'll see if I can get it. Bonus points for giving me a color index number.

Is there a universal set of color index numbers or is it specific by maker of powder coating? There seems to be a "RAL" standard.

Will these work?

http://www.powdercoater.com/colorchart/pdf/ralcolors.pdf

Thanks for doing all this.

Edited because I found a better chart.

SeditiousCanary

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:42 pm

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We are go for weekend pickup/dropoff of bike bits for powdercoating. I just got off the phone with the guy and we are set. Small parts are no problem, so it you want a matching stem, rims, cranks or something, get me those too. He's got a grey in stock that sounds good, and I will confirm color options for those of you who wanted something else. If they need to order it, it may take longer and will cost a bit more, but I'll know more about that once I am there and will call those people to update them. Call me or PM me if you have any questions.

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