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I was just up there a week ago to climb dragontail. The whole trail is beat-in pretty well and assblaster pass is snow free. You do not need any crampons/axes/ropes/protection. Bring poles if you need walking support.
There's a party size restriction up there and permits are required for overnight stays. The season's winding down, but it's a popular place. Do you know how many people are going and how many permits you'd need?
Above aasgard, the camping is chill and snow-free for the most part. there's running water everywhere. You don't need a filter if you have iodine or aqua mira - it's lighter anyway. watch out for goats up there. they will chew through anything that has sweat on it and follow you around until you take a leak so they can drink it. strange.
pack a flask and an ipod/ghetto-blaster combo for the downtime and you should be set. Have fun hiking up that pass.
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:57 pm
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moronbros wrote:
goats up there. they wil... follow you around until you take a leak so they can drink it. strange.-
ya just HAD to tell that little piece of info to this group.
this is goin to end baaaaadly
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SKETCHY
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:16 pm
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we won't have to worry about the permits after the 15th
Last year i didn't see any goat, they were afraid
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derrickito
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:16 pm
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im looking forward to goats following me for my feces.
dennyt
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:42 pm
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How YOU doin?
SKETCHY
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:34 pm
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that goat looks kinda like lee
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ro
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:06 pm
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Sketchy
I'm really bummed but it looks like I'm out of commission for a few weeks and won't be able to make the Enchantments trip. Next year!
SKETCHY
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 7:01 pm
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SHIT! Sorry to hear about that. About a year and a half ago I pinched a nerve in the middle of my back, it was so bad I had a hard time even breathing, walking was just as bad, and pooping, well that was ok. We were really looking forward to you going. I have plenty of winter camping trips planed so see ya then.
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Jessica
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:13 pm
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I've got the time off from work so count me in for this.
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:33 am
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My dad might join in, he's been up Dragontail twice, I believe, the hard way. He had the following two cents, he's a bit concerned about the conditions if we have to deal with loose snow on talus going up Asgaard, but he's only gone that way in full on winter when there's a consolidated snowfield.
Dad wrote:
This 'hike' clearly has potential. I would be interested in doing this but I would probably recommend hiking to Colchuck and putting the camp on the south end of the lake. There is a spot I've used before that allows quick access to Asgaard. I think that a hike to the top and a side trip to the top of Dragontail would best be done as a day hike, that is, leaving the camp back at Colchuck and traveling light. I've never done Asgaard except when it has been bulletproof ice but I've heard that it's just a long talus/boulder slope. The trail is pretty much notional with cairns for waypoints. Danger of self inflicted rockfall and nasty slips if it has snowed or, worse, if it has rained and frozen.
You do have to understand that this is not a trip for novice hikers. Last month a very experienced climber and his 12 year old son were killed on the Colchuck Glacier, which has about the same gradient as Asgaard. If there is a foot of snow at the lake, Asgaard should be consided to be extremely dangerous. It would require about 3 hours to ascend (2000 vertical feet in less than 1 mile from the lake to the top of the pass) and the same amount of time to descend. A rough topo profile that I just did for the hike from Colchuck to the top of Dragontail has 3400' of gain in just over 2 miles.
If the snow cover is light crampons won't be much help. So, not trying to talk you out of this but the severity of the hike and the limited daylight (north side) leaves little wiggle room.
derrickito
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:38 am
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it's ok, i watch Man vs Wild and Survivor man religiously. if i get caught in something fierce i can fall back on my camera crew and my British Armed Services training.
pistol, and flip flops, thats all i need.
SKETCHY
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:39 pm
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Again, my goal for this trip, first of all, is the safety of the group, I have also been here before on the same weekend as we are going with no snow or need for crampons. I'm keeping a close eye on the situation. If there is any chance of snow we will ALL have crampons. I agree, this is not a newbe hike, but there isn't anyone in this group that can't do this.
Please start E-mailing me your list of things anyone needs.
Also we will need cars.
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Foo
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:47 pm
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Car: I can take two, three if people are willing to share the back seat with all their crap.
Equipment: Stove, water filter, cooking pot, ice axe, crampons, tent, bag, rope, harnesses, snow pickets, etc.
SKETCHY
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:51 pm
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rope, harnesses, snow pickets why???[/quote]
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Foo
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:52 pm
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I don't think we'll need 'em (I hope not) but if the need's there, I've got the stuff available.
derrickito
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:33 pm
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god damn i love the REI bargain basement. picked up a pair of boots that are usually 165 bucks for 30 dollars. brand new.
i also love ebay! OMG
2 cases of military MRE's. always wanted to try these. the first one i opened even came with crackers and SQUEEZE CHEEZ.
Foo
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:58 am
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Derrick, my envy right now knows no bounds.
joeball
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:26 am
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derrickito wrote:
god damn i love the REI bargain basement. picked up a pair of boots that are usually 165 bucks for 30 dollars. brand new.
i also love ebay! OMG
2 cases of military MRE's. always wanted to try these. the first one i opened even came with crackers and SQUEEZE CHEEZ.
Derrick eat as many MRE's as you can but what ever you do DO NOT CHEW THE CHICKLETS.
laura
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:41 am
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SKETCHY wrote:
Please start E-mailing me your list of things anyone needs.
!!! Suffering from thread overload !!!
Can someone recap (and perhaps edit the original post to include this info) what each person needs to bring/be responsible for vs. what (if anything) we have covered as a group and don't need to bring extra?
Bear is hot, even when he says "vitamin" and "glacier" with those funny pronunciations.
derrickito
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:02 pm
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i just used the chemical heater to heat up my meaty ravioli. it was fucking delicious. (those heaters are awesome!)
im chewing the chicklets. they werent bad.
seriously, SQUEEZ CHEEZ.
im going to live on these from now on.
i just bought another case on ebay.
lantius
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:05 pm
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derrickito wrote:
im chewing the chicklets. they werent bad.
from what i've heard about the intent of the chiclets from andre and your own proclivities, you might want to make sure you don't bypass any portapotties on your way home from this ride...
derrickito
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:08 pm
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i just googled to see if MRE chicklets have caused any pooping problems in other people, cant seem to find anything.
joeball
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:09 pm
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derrickito wrote:
i just used the chemical heater to heat up my meaty ravioli. it was fucking delicious. (those heaters are awesome!)
im chewing the chicklets. they werent bad.
seriously, SQUEEZ CHEEZ.
im going to live on these from now on.
i just bought another case on ebay.
you know the heaters were designed to only take enough water that you could pee in them so you don't waste any of your drinking water in the field. They also make cool MRE bombs, better than that dud at the cabin the other week.
gsbarnes
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:12 pm
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derrickito wrote:
i just googled to see if MRE chicklets have caused any pooping problems in other people, cant seem to find anything.
That information is CLASSIFIED! Have you undergone your background check?
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joeball
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:13 pm
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The laxative thing may be a rumor, i can attest to the meals themselves stopping your up though (7 days!, now that is a shit camel Lee).
Derrick you should try to find some old C-rations on e-bay, they came with smokes !!!
henry
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:13 pm
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The cabin bomb was one of the great disappointments of my life.
Again, my goal for this trip, first of all, is the safety of the group, I have also been here before on the same weekend as we are going with no snow or need for crampons.
Sketchy, I feel that you have limited experience with mountain climbing. As you know, I on the otherhand have climed 13 14ers. I think you should just let me take over in the safety department... no crampons, no picks, no ropes, just whiskey! :)
joeball
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:27 pm
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henry wrote:
The cabin bomb was one of the great disappointments of my life.
I owe you one
langston
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:30 pm
Joined: 25 Jul 2005Posts: 5547Location: Columbia City
anyone else want to coordinate real food? The elevation of where we're going is really not high enough to warrent such spartan extreme menus. CRATs? Can't you just kick me in the stomach instead?
I propose a nice dinner of salmon, wild rice & mixed vegetables with aoili.
Megan is out due to a work conflict, so I'll be looking to tent up with someone and plan menus.
SKETCHY
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:30 pm
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Is everyone ok with gear, mostly sleeping bags and sleeping pads, jackets too. Let me know what any of you need via Private msg.
Salmon does sound good. yumm
crampons, I think will be a good idea, but I will find out.
Ice axes should not be needed, they will only make things worse.
And tents, start pairing up
And I think we should meet at wagemaya You know that place. I would post a poll as for fri. night or sat. but i don't know how
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derrickito
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:33 pm
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looks like im leaving sat morning EARLY (6? as early as i have to). have a full car already too.
sketch, i might take you up on that extra 4 season tent you were telling me about. if we need crampons, ill have to rent/buy those as well.
im set on everything else except water purifier. hoping i can bounce on someone elses for that. if all else fails i have pill purification or can boil.
Drunkan
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:15 pm
Joined: 09 Sep 2007Posts: 95Location: Wallingford
Again I have a two man tent stove and filter. But I need a ride. Who can fit me in their car? and a spare harness if need be.
laura
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:33 pm
Joined: 22 Jun 2007Posts: 1050Location: wherever the dance party is
I need a ride.
I have a 2 person tent & would share with another femme.
I have a filter and other assorted items.
We are all responsible for our own food, correct?
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:53 pm
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Denny's Car
1) Denny
2) _____
3) _____
4) _____
I have a 2-person tent and water filter to share, and all the personal gear I'll need. And I'm bringing my ice axe anyway, in case SKETCHY gets friendly.
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dennyt wrote:
Denny's Car
1) Denny
2) Langston
3) _____
4) _____
I have a 2-person tent and water filter to share, and all the personal gear I'll need. And I'm bringing my ice axe anyway, in case SKETCHY gets friendly.
I'd appreciate riding deuce in your tent Denny, I can carry the poles or something to even the load. I'll be bringing an ice axe as well, mostly for the trip down to save the knees.
laura
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:46 am
Joined: 22 Jun 2007Posts: 1050Location: wherever the dance party is
dennyt wrote:
Denny's Car
1) Denny
2) Langston
3) Laura :)
4) _____
Thank you Denny!
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:54 am
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Quote:
Denny's Car
1) Denny
2) Langston
3) Laura :)
4) Duncan
Please accept my attempt at adding me to you car. I'll bring cookies.
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