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Fuckin bloody hell...
john
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:35 pm
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From the comments:
Quote:
"We encourage all cyclists to be vigilant and safe in an environment that contains negligent and outright hostile elements.
er... how about some ad lib modification of that statement.
"We encourage all cyclists to be vigilantes and cap some rounds off at the fuckers in an environment that contains negligent and outright hostile elements."
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Holy shit that's awful. I hope it doesn't turn into another "fixed gears are death machines" thing.
The next time I'm riding, and I find my self next to a dump truck, tow truck, any fucking truck I am going to leap onto the sidewalk, get off my bike and run inside.
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snyd3282
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:32 pm
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MyNameIsJeff wrote:
The next time I'm riding, and I find my self next to a dump truck, tow truck, any fucking truck I am going to leap onto the sidewalk, get off my bike and run inside.
It is fucking aweful.
The next time I am riding and find myself to a truck at an intersection, I'm going to honk my new airZound and slap their door to let them know that I am next to them.
...and then I'll make sure that I continue to be a very vehicular cyclist. ie. If I don't make eye contact, I let the car, truck or whatever go first. I have no qualms about drafting behind a cement truck, but by god I'm careful as hell when one is beside me or close behind me. I know I look like a geek with all my lights and my rearview mirror but I want to know if those cars around me see me or not, if they have their turn signal on or not, and how they are behaving.
It is a damn shame. I need to get drunk again.
PJ Diddy
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:12 am
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WOW... There is no excuse for being a inattentive driver or rider. At work they say yell at every intersection. I do whether I'm on my bike or in my truck. If this truck driver/dump truck driver was doing his/her job correctly our friends would still be with us.
As a rider, don't expect anyone to see you! Yes it is obvious that you are there. Even Joby's in glowing shirts get hit. Maybe sometimes the bike lane isn't the best lane for a bike. It's supposed to be this happy safe place for me but we keep getting killed riding in it. So where the fuck am i suppose to go. I know where I'm going. I'm going to ride where i know I'm seen. I'm going to yell at every truck/car/semi that's near me. Whether it's profanities or not they will know i'm there and i'm not taking shit from any one of those fuckers in their cages.
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Eric_s
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:59 am
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So a bus almost pulled out into me this morning. I got out of the way (being right means nothing if you're dead) and then went and tapped on the bus driver's window, and she was indignant because she "watches for bikes", and it's "my job to watch out for buses". I let her know she almost hit me when she pulled out in to the left lane from the stop, and that the only reason she wasn't talking to a cop and a supervisor was because I was watching for her to try to kill me.
And then I rode off. Not worth getting worked up about.
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SeditiousCanary
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:05 am
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Eric_s wrote:
And then I rode off. Not worth getting worked up about.
Hi. You nearly killed me. KTHXBYE!
TrikerTrev
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:42 am
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the road rules i'm teaching my kids are teh same that have kept me alive on a bike/trike for 3 decades:
1) ride like you're INVISIBLE!
2) expect every car/truck out there to be the one that will (try to) kill you!
3) be OBVIOUS in what your doing (if you ride in the road, stay in the road. use your hands to tell cagers what your going to do.)
4) look over/under/through obstacles...use your ears as well as your eyes.
...and like Eric said, being right means nothing if your dead!
be careful out there, you fuckers
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laura
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:05 am
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Eric_s wrote:
And then I rode off. Not worth getting worked up about.
I don't know if this would fall under "getting worked up", but I highly recommend getting on Metro's website http://transit.metrokc.gov/cs/metro-feedback.html and filing a complaint - especially if you got the coach number. They need to be aware of those kind of situations and you don't know if a particular driver has been previously cited for something similar ...
I also like to write commendations for drivers that are excellent when dealing with cyclists - yielding, giving three feet when passing, etc. It doesn't happen often enough to warrant an online warm fuzzy, but when it happens I let 'em know. Nerdy, but you gotta balance it out.
Eric_s
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:37 am
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laura wrote:
Eric_s wrote:
And then I rode off. Not worth getting worked up about.
I don't know if this would fall under "getting worked up", but I highly recommend getting on Metro's website http://transit.metrokc.gov/cs/metro-feedback.html and filing a complaint - especially if you got the coach number. They need to be aware of those kind of situations and you don't know if a particular driver has been previously cited for something similar ...
I've ridden that bus with that driver before, and she's not a bad driver. I really did ride into her blind spot, and while she scared me, she also had little chance to see me. Hopefully next time, she'll look twice, and I'll just slot in behind the bus instead of thinking I can pass.
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Seven
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:41 am
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when I first started riding in this city I was waiting at a light on the right of a bus. when it turned I went straight and the bus gunned it in an attempt to get in front of me to pull over for a stop, but of course there was no way it would make it and it totally ran me into the curb. I ended up stopping myself just in time with my left shoulder pressed against the bus and my right foot on the sidewalk. Those buses can be real fucks, even to cars.
snyd3282
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:55 am
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Seven wrote:
Those buses can be real fucks, even to cars.
Metro may try to get their drivers to be courteous to cyclists, but this is the same place where we had a bus nearly go off the edge of a high bridge, and an articulated bus that tore off the side of the back half of the bus against a cement barricade when the driver turned too sharply trying to get onto the viaduct, and any number of other horribly crazy incidents that didn't make the news.
It is a huge fleet and they rotate drivers from one route to another so they don't get bored, so drivers don't get stuck forever with aweful routes, etc...but that also means that we frequently see drivers who don't know the stops, don't know the route, don't know what is normal on the road that they are on, etc.
Having driven big trucks in rural areas before and heavily loaded pickups with flatbed trailers in tow in urban areas before, it is a bitch. The tolerance for error is small, the visibility is poor, the response of the vehicle is poor.
I feel for the drivers and when I can I'll just catch a breath and coast while I wait for them to pull away from a stop or I'll merge way over into the other lane to give them room. Not to say that I haven't pulled some stupid shit either, like trying to split a lane with a bus, or suddenly deciding to turn across oncoming traffic, but when I am conciously thinking about it and planning, I give them extra room. They are bigger, they could run over me without noticing. Tempting fate too much is a bad idea.
laura
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:55 am
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Seven wrote:
Those buses can be real fucks, even to cars.
Bus drivers are a mixed bag - some decent, others not-so-decent. And then they have good days and bad days, just like us ...
All in all it is a delicate dance between Metro & the bike lane - especially with the 5 heading up Phinney Ridge ... *snarl*
Remington
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:45 am
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TrikerTrev wrote:
1) ride like you're INVISIBLE!
That's just 'cause you're on a trike...
TrikerTrev
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:57 am
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Remington wrote:
TrikerTrev wrote:
1) ride like you're INVISIBLE!
That's just 'cause you're on a trike...
and i'm short too...wait, you werent there for that conversation
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mos6502
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:01 am
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It happened from a complete stop apparently.
I want to say, they weren't even moving, how could the driver have not had time to check and look where he was about to go?
But I'm also thinking, since it happened from a stop, that I'd never even have pulled up alongside that truck (of course, I don't know if she stopped simultaneously with the truck, or filtered up alongside it). It also makes me wonder if the driver signaled his turn.
I personally never pull up alongside stopped buses, trucks, etc. at red lights or stop signs. On a tangent: it may just be my personal experience, but has anybody else noticed how tow truck drivers are apparently incapable of the very basics of vehicle operation?
Eric_s
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:45 am
Joined: 07 Mar 2007Posts: 1691Location: the dirty south
mos6502 wrote:
On a tangent: it may just be my personal experience, but has anybody else noticed how tow truck drivers are apparently incapable of the very basics of vehicle operation?
Hey now, you do that much tweek and let's see you drive a truck!
PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — A garbage truck turning right crushed a bicyclist in a Portland bike lane, the second such accident in two weeks.
Police said Brett Jarolimek, 31, tried but failed to brake, collided with the truck and fell beneath the rear wheels on Monday.
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:03 pm
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I want to go set fire to my car now.
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:40 pm
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Very sad to hear about these guys.
The article said up to 5 fatalities a year, it's very hard to figure out / feel if that's a good number or not given the number of cyclists. The number of motoring fatalities per no. of portland motorists is probably lower though :(
Eric_s
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:52 am
Joined: 07 Mar 2007Posts: 1691Location: the dirty south
Again? This hits too close to home. Does anyone know any inforamtion about the girl? I cannot believe this-i cannot believe it happened again. What is going on?
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ThisIsRed
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:18 pm
Joined: 17 Sep 2007Posts: 8Location: CapHill
wait will someone help clarify? how many people were killed? the girl on Monday and another many on Oct 11th?
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jeff
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:45 pm
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ThisIsRed wrote:
wait will someone help clarify? how many people were killed? the girl on Monday and another many on Oct 11th?
Not sure of the specific dates, but yes. Two deaths in Oct. in Portland.
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