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lantius
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:56 am Reply with quote
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hey hackers, nerds, and other ridiculous types that dominate this group. phpbb has grown long in the tooth and is making our hosting provider send derrick angry flaming bags of e-poop.

many of you know that for a while now (oh, 6 months or so) we've been "working" on a new forum based on bbpress rather than phpbb. i'm happy to say that it's not quite ready yet but definitely ready for some heavy testing before we probably move to it permanently along with a new hosting provider in the new week or so.

i'd love it if you testery/nerd types could go hit up: http://point83.com/bb/ and let me know what things you find wrong with it. we have a migration script that in theory should have moved over all of the posts, users, etc. but i'm sure it's got glitches and you can help me find out what they are.

also appreciated would be any help tweaking and fixing the templates and other gui bits, we've done some work to make it look kosher and as similar to the current format as possible but it's got a bunch of new features and hopefully we can even improve the functionality.

REMEMBER: the new forum is in a testing phase right now. with your guys' feedback i'll be tweaking the import script and blowing away any of your changes by reimporting over them. the phpbb forum will stay online for at least a while longer.

if you want to provide direct programming help or have any suggestions for other plugins or features you want, let me know!


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derrickito
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:59 am Reply with quote
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ill be able to get in there and work up the style sheets to match everything up (or in some cases improve).
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the dreaded ben
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:17 pm Reply with quote
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derrickito wrote:
ill be able to get in there and work up the style sheets to match everything up (or in some cases improve).


it's gonna look like a kosmo bag, isn't it.
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derrickito
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:19 pm Reply with quote
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either that, or im going to put supergo logos all over it.
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Foo
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:20 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 583

Well, here's what I dun seen so far:
(using Exploder - I'm at work)

All the forums seem to have merged into an unholy mass. The forum listing below only lists the photo forum.

Every other post is highlighted in pink(!).

Stickies do not seem to be sticking.

In the forum posts themselves, the quoting formatting isn't working and other formatting in general seems to be either gone or gravely amiss.

On the plus side, it looks like the data carried across fine.
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the dreaded ben
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:26 pm Reply with quote
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it seems to have an overall lack of humor.

and salt.
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TrikerTrev
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:27 pm Reply with quote
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wouldnt take an img tag

reminds me of what derricks bathroom musta looked like after his ass 'sploded

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jeff
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:29 pm Reply with quote
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Pink background with white text hurts.
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the dreaded ben
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:34 pm Reply with quote
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jeff wrote:
Pink background with white text hurts.

that's just for you jeff.
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Happy Stick Person
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:41 pm Reply with quote
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links back to the forum at the bottom of the page would make me do a little dance...
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mork the delayer
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:41 pm Reply with quote
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When you have the ignorer on, it seems that any thread the ignored users have posted to is invisible. I call that a bug. Just block their posts, please.

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henry
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:44 pm Reply with quote
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My wide avatar breaks the layout.

I can do some fixes on this this weekend.

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mork the delayer
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:45 pm Reply with quote
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There should be a link to the forum list, and a way to see the contents of each forum individually.

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mork the delayer
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:46 pm Reply with quote
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mork the delayer wrote:
There should be a link to the forum list, and a way to see the contents of each forum individually.


I mean, other than editing the address bar like a geek.

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joeball
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:07 pm Reply with quote
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Which forum is for the newbs? Will .83 silver have its own area?
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MyNameIsJeff
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:13 pm Reply with quote
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the dreaded ben wrote:
it seems to have an overall lack of humor.

and salt.


Bacon salt?

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TrikerTrev
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:32 pm Reply with quote
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can't preview

overall uninteresting...like myself

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Foo
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:53 pm Reply with quote
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I dunno, I thought it was interesting.

As in, "Interesting, the new forum looks like something that got squeezed out of a cat's anus. Huh."
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rlotz
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:12 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 311 Location: Capitol Hill

In no particular order...

The forum index in the new forum doesn't provide an easy to way to jump to the last page of a thread. I don't know what phpBB is capable of, but if it would auto jump to the last message I viewed that would be great. At the very least I'd like to see a few page numbers and maybe the word "last". A word gives a larger link target for those nerds using iPhones.

Also, there are too many caps, I don't need the forum to yell at me how long ago a post was made.

I don't really know why I would care to view topics with no replies or no tags.

The bold of "blah wrote" is not that recognizable with the other light text. Make it stand out or make the quotes block indented perhaps?

Also, make an iCal feed I can subscribe to for all the .83 events.
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henry
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:19 pm Reply with quote
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Foo wrote:

All the forums seem to have merged into an unholy mass. The forum listing below only lists the photo forum.


wierd ... this seems to vary. I get all the forums, and then reload and get just the photo forum ... but it's random.

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dennyt
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:21 pm Reply with quote
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Quoted text has the same style as normal text.
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lantius
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:35 pm Reply with quote
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dennyt wrote:
Quoted text has the same style as normal text.

ah. hopefully that is better now?
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lantius
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:51 pm Reply with quote
1337 Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 6705 Location: right over

Foo wrote:
Well, here's what I dun seen so far:
(using Exploder - I'm at work)

Every other post is highlighted in pink(!).

Stickies do not seem to be sticking.

In the forum posts themselves, the quoting formatting isn't working and other formatting in general seems to be either gone or gravely amiss.

On the plus side, it looks like the data carried across fine.


what version of IE are you using?

i'm not seeing the pink in firefox.
stickieness isn't being imported, but the functionality seems to work.
i fixed the quoting formatting but i'm not sure what to do with some of the other screwy formatting. do you have some specific examples i can look at?
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Foo
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:03 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 583

Internet Exploder 6.0.2900.2180

As far as I can tell, italics, bold, etc aren't showing up as well as any text color. I haven't looked to see if img tags are working.
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lantius
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:07 pm Reply with quote
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rlotz wrote:
The forum index in the new forum doesn't provide an easy to way to jump to the last page of a thread. I don't know what phpBB is capable of, but if it would auto jump to the last message I viewed that would be great. At the very least I'd like to see a few page numbers and maybe the word "last". A word gives a larger link target for those nerds using iPhones.

Also, there are too many caps, I don't need the forum to yell at me how long ago a post was made.

I don't really know why I would care to view topics with no replies or no tags.

Also, make an iCal feed I can subscribe to for all the .83 events.


last page link added. i'm not sure how to get the page numbers in there, and i'm really not sure without looking further how to get the state for the last viewed message in each thread or pull out pagination data.

i'm not sure how to style the post footer. opinions? mockups? i think we really need it to float to the lower right of the container it's in as well before it drives me batshit insane. any css gurus want to tackle that one?

i agree that the views link is pretty useless. removed.

the calendar events feed is actually something that this will break, meaning we actually need to get a decent little calendar script. maybe we could make a plugin that builds/manages google calendar objects and ties them to forum threads?
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lantius
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:19 pm Reply with quote
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Foo wrote:
Internet Exploder 6.0.2900.2180

As far as I can tell, italics, bold, etc aren't showing up as well as any text color. I haven't looked to see if img tags are working.


evilmike will remember the sad refrain from the days of working at autoadvisor: fuck you ie, in other programs we would have to work hard to make it look so shitty.

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Foo
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:20 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 583

Huge freakin' screenshot!!!!one!

Now the overall page formatting has exploded as well.

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Happy Stick Person
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:21 pm Reply with quote
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stickies look like toothpaste...
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Happy Stick Person
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:23 pm Reply with quote
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lantius wrote:
Foo wrote:
Internet Exploder 6.0.2900.2180

As far as I can tell, italics, bold, etc aren't showing up as well as any text color. I haven't looked to see if img tags are working.


evilmike will remember the sad refrain from the days of working at autoadvisor: fuck you ie, in other programs we would have to work hard to make it look so shitty.



is that zelda just wallpaper or do you have something awesome?
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lantius
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:25 pm Reply with quote
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Happy Stick Person wrote:
is that zelda just wallpaper or do you have something awesome?


just wallpaper, but i had a crazy idea of making a zelda game where the whole map is loaded all the time and enemies respawn over time. you'd be small but it'd look pretty cool on big monitors, wouldn't it?
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Foo
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:25 pm Reply with quote
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Dude, what the hell do you have as your background, Ultima 4?

[edit]Nevermind!
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langston
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:28 pm Reply with quote
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Foo wrote:
Dude, what the hell do you have as your background, Ultima 4?

[edit]Nevermind!



that's Zelda ! The original for NES!
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Happy Stick Person
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:30 pm Reply with quote
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forum looks fine in ie7 btw...
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Happy Stick Person
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:32 pm Reply with quote
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Happy Stick Person wrote:
stickies look like toothpaste...


in firefox 2.0.0.7
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lantius
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:06 pm Reply with quote
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lantius wrote:
i'm not sure how to style the post footer. opinions? mockups? i think we really need it to float to the lower right of the container it's in as well before it drives me batshit insane. any css gurus want to tackle that one?


new post footer is in along with a bunch of other styling changes, at least in firefox. comments?
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derrickito
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:11 pm Reply with quote
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for users that have avatars in the new system, the avatar is showing up first, then the name below that.

can you switch it so it's name then picture?

ill get in there and help out with some css later tonight. gotta go get some food or im gonna pass out
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Foo
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:30 pm Reply with quote
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OK, I'm home and I don't have to deal with Microsoft's abortion of a browser anymore. In Firefox it doesn't look like cat turds anymore.

Something the cat pooped on, perhaps but at least there's a theoretical path visible to less suckage.
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lantius
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:11 pm Reply with quote
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derrickito wrote:
for users that have avatars in the new system, the avatar is showing up first, then the name below that.

can you switch it so it's name then picture?

ill get in there and help out with some css later tonight. gotta go get some food or im gonna pass out


flipped. let me know when you're done eating your corndog split. (like a banana split but instead it's a corndog with scoops of refried beans drizzled in nacho cheese sauce.)

anyhow, it's alot nicer to work with than phpbb, that's for damn sure, but there are a few tricky bits. the stylesheet you want to change is in /my-templates/point83/style.css
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Happy Stick Person
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:20 pm Reply with quote
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ummm how to make it go gooder? like the linkses and pictures of derricks mom?
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ripper
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:44 pm Reply with quote
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face it, there's a lot of work to be done on the interface.

first, the tag cloud has GOT to go. it's absurd and I highly doubt anyone will use it (we're not dealing with a huge corpus that needs sifting -- plus, I don't trust about 1/2 of .83 to tag adequately.)

there's no way "back."

interface elements aren't distinct nor consistent (link color, emphasis, etc are all the same color, -- for instance, the location navigator `[westlake center >> <post title>]` needs to be clickable, all the same style)

dividing line between poster and post left-to-right, like a border-left:1px solid black; on the main post category. I assume derrick is going to step in and make this pretty and possibly usable.

otherwise, I'm excited about a new platform and RSS feeds.

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