This weeks issue of The Stranger thought it would be clever to post a list of the Northwests 49 "best deaths". I opened it thinking I would find stories about historical figures and their unfortunate happenings. Nope. Whats number one on the list? September 7, 2007, young man killed by a dumb truck on his bicycle.
Too Soon! Way too fuckin soon! They make me sick!
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Foo
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:59 pm
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Hmmm, The Stranger has certainly never been a bastion of good taste or journalistic excellence but they've really topped themselves this time.
henry
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:41 pm
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I had the same response when i opened the shitrag at lunch today.
On the flip side, this thread makes me VERY happy.
Yeah, I love how they march down a list of people that died in the last few months and make snarky comments about them. Now that's hard hitting reporting!
E.g.:
In 1783, French scientist Pilatre De Rozier launched the world's first hot air balloon. Since then, the leisurely balloon ride has become a staple of family vacations, romantic interludes, and those seeking tame thrills. But this August, two of our neighbors in the Great White North fell to a flaming death when their hot air balloon burst into flames over an RV park. Just after they jumped, speeding through the air with their clothes on fire, the balloon burst into flames, shot 400 feet into the sky, then hurtled to earth. Who says Canadians are boring?
CLASSY!
I am trying to think of a non-felonious way of registering my dissatisfaction with the Stranger. This is hard work!
joeball
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:25 pm
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They may as well round it out to 50 cause I don't think this kid made it like the Fugitive did. I saw this unfold outside my office window last night. He last went under right below our offices. The recovery teams are still looking right now.
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langston
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:32 pm
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eh, don't be so damned serious.
I lolled, and thought the satirical bash on Seattle Metrosexual er Metropolitan was spot on.
lantius
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:48 pm
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Mr. wrote:
eh, don't be so damned serious.
I lolled, and thought the satirical bash on Seattle Metrosexual er Metropolitan was spot on.
next month, "northwest's 49 best firings". i hear langston bangston is at positions 7, 23, 34, and 48!
surlykat
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:56 pm
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Mr. wrote:
eh, don't be so damned serious.
I lolled, and thought the satirical bash on Seattle Metrosexual er Metropolitan was spot on.
Dude, don't be so damned flip. If it was your boyfriend in the crash, and his best friend who was killed, you'd be mad too. Don't tell someone who just lost a close friend to lighten up when the local shitrag calls it the northwest's best death.
Foo
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:01 pm
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lantius wrote:
Mr. wrote:
eh, don't be so damned serious.
I lolled, and thought the satirical bash on Seattle Metrosexual er Metropolitan was spot on.
next month, "northwest's 49 best firings". i hear Mr. bangston is at positions 7, 23, 34, and 48!
I lolled, and thought the satirical bash on Seattle Metrosexual er Metropolitan was spot on.
Dude, don't be so damned flip. If it was your boyfriend in the crash, and his best friend who was killed, you'd be mad too. Don't tell someone who just lost a close friend to lighten up when the local shitrag calls it the northwest's best death.
I'm sorry, but Kat's right. It was not only insensitive, but not even funny. Even if it was someone that no one knew, and no one got killed, the article wasn't well written.
Question: is someone from said media outlet coming on the memorial ride? Have we invited Erica yet? If she's going to write, maybe she should come meet the people she's been using as sources.
Foo
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:16 pm
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Mike Lindbloom from the Times is going to try and make it out (he's got some schedule juggling to make that happen) otherwise someone else will get sent out.
As for Barnett, I, for one, and going to have a really hard time biting my tongue around her after the crap she pulled with that interview.
surlykat
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:18 pm
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Foo wrote:
As for Barnett, I, for one, and going to have a really hard time biting my tongue around her after the crap she pulled with that interview.
Well, if all you say to her is how disappointed you are with her journalism and how much she sucks, she might not be able to quote-mine you and take you completely out of context!
Then again, maybe she could.
jeff
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:47 pm
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How about we deliver a ghost bike to their office? Chain it to the front desk? Leave a stack of them out front?
If they think it's so laughable to make light of a life cut short by tragedy, we should at least point out what dickheads they are for doing so.
TrikerTrev
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:33 pm
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jeff wrote:
How about we deliver a ghost bike to their office? Chain it to the front desk? Leave a stack of them out front?
If they think it's so laughable to make light of a life cut short by tragedy, we should at least point out what dickheads they are for doing so.
i think bags of flaming shit would make a better, err...mark?
seriously
i mean if they think lame assed bashing of the dead is cool, then flaming sacks of feces should be like cinnamon rolls.
i'll take time off for this
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langston
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:16 pm
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surlykat wrote:
Mr. wrote:
eh, don't be so damned serious.
I lolled, and thought the satirical bash on Seattle Metrosexual er Metropolitan was spot on.
Dude, don't be so damned flip. If it was your boyfriend in the crash, and his best friend who was killed, you'd be mad too. Don't tell someone who just lost a close friend to lighten up when the local shitrag calls it the northwest's best death.
if I recall, not a single .83'er had ever even met this guy who was so unfortunate to as to intersect with with el dumptrucko. What's your point again? I don't really understand our groups furor over this. It's not like the local Ducati club goes apeshit when some noob goes out and buys a rocket-bike only to lay it down on the viaduct and become just another shit stain.
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SeditiousCanary
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:20 pm
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Mr. wrote:
What's your point again?
That people who were close to him are on the board and are disgusted with it. Only a schmuck would have missed that.
langston
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:29 pm
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SeditiousCanary wrote:
Mr. wrote:
What's your point again?
That people who were close to him are on the board and are disgusted with it. Only a schmuck would have missed that.
correct if I'm wrong but who exactly? Trolls? I hate to be insensitive, and don't overlook my own empathy for the situation here but it is somewhat hypocritical for us as a collective group to bash Cap Hill scenesters for riding bikes in an unsafe manner and then freak out and get all righteous when the law of averages catch up and one gets smooshed.
Bikes are dangerous by default, only more so when on a fixed gear and when rode in traffic, duh.
wakingjonas
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:56 pm
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ThisIsRed is Lauren, Caleb's girlfriend. She's on the forums, she started this thread...
langston
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:02 pm
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wakingjonas wrote:
ThisIsRed is Lauren, Caleb's girlfriend. She's on the forums, she started this thread...
okay, so they're present.I knew that, and that's Cool. Now for the chicken and the egg questions.
I'm almost done being a dick about this. Is this an "official" point83 sanctioned event/ride/dramasaster or along the lines of seattlelikesbikes; which includes a large majority of participating .83 members yet does not represent the group as a whole?
and jesus people, the whole l'etranger piece is satire. If the Catholics can take a Pope joke here and there I think some perspective is in order here.
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Foo
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:41 pm
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Thank you Stick, for summing up Langston so succinctly.
Seriously Langston, were you born this stupid or have you had to work at it? If it is the latter, my hat goes off to you - such dedication and hard work aren't something you see too often these days.
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john
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:04 pm
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Mr. wrote:
okay, so they're present.I knew that, and that's Cool. Now for the chicken and the egg questions.
...
and jesus people, the whole l'etranger piece is satire. If the Catholics can take a Pope joke here and there I think some perspective is in order here.
Sohey Layngston...
yeah yeah... I get your point... when I was racing around on motorcycles we laughed our heads off at our friends fuck ups that led us to carrying their coffin.
that was the venue for it. This really isn't and that is why you are getting the shitstorm.
The only risque thing here is sexual inuendoes of bestiality of a specifically equestrain nature... much else other than the mainstream, tow the party line hipster/computer/cyclists attitude really runs afoul of the pointy3 crowd.
This is not the live to ride-ride to die crowd...
Now you have permission to make fun of me when I get ground up under some Hummer that I decided to play carfight with... you know thatis gonna happen... I can't always win against the assholes...
but recognize you need to have some sense of filtering here.
And to ThisisRed/Lauren... you have to understand that many people who have had a greater than average proportions of coffin carrying times... there is a certain filter that we put on wherein we tend to make light of mortality in a way that many people may find hard to deal with. So as much as Langston may seem like a seething prick... he is also one of the more legitimately sensitive critters that cruise the forum... so i hope you don't take too much offense... he actually is compassionate.
anyways... that's my two cents...
in summary... cut the schmuck some slack... he has the compassion muscles... more than he is letting show...
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John,
I think you're missing the point a bit here.
If Bryce and Caleb had been dicking around and playing red light chicken and or somehow otherwise been somehow at fault for the accident, there might be some sort of sliver of justification for what Lang said, however tasteless and blunt. However, this isn't the case. I've personally spoken with an eyewitness to the accident that clearly described both Bryce and Caleb as riding legally and having been run over by the truck driver's lack of due diligence. This has been common knowledge on these forums for a long time now.
This isn't a case of Lang speaking an uncomfortable truth that the rest of us are afraid to face, it's a case of him being an uninformed, callous horsecock. It may very well be that Lang's got some actual compassion hiding under that idiocy but just *saying* you're empathetic doesn't make it true. Actions still speak louder than words.
Jesus, I'd been hoping that ignoring Lang would be good enough and that I wouldn't have to waste time actually responding to him but I guess I don't always get what I want.
Lang's arguments can be summed up as such:
1) Oh lighten up, the Ѕtranger making light of Bryce's death (as well as a 48 others) isn't such a big deal.
Um, why? It would be one thing if the article was really funny or had some sort of Onion-esque social satire message or something other than a chest-beating exercise by the Ѕtranger to demonstrate their self-felt superiority over another local rag. It would be another thing if the article had poked fun at people who had offed themselves in stupid ways 'ala Darwin wards but no - being run over by an inattentive truck driver, having your hot air balloon catch on fire and having a construction crane fall on you in your apartment are just tragic deaths that are still fresh and should have at least some small modicum of respect paid to them for the benefit of the bereaved.
2) No one in .83 personally knew him so why are we getting bent out of shape? If some noob got a crotch rocket and smeared themselves, the local motorcycle club wouldn't get all bent out of shape.
This is the most idiotic of all the posts. First, why should the fact that we hadn't met him mean we shouldn't give a shit? Bryce loved bikes and espoused the same sort of attitude for biking that most of us do. All of the people who knew him have stated many times that had he met .83, he would have loved it. So the fact that none of us ran into him in the 3 weeks he lived here means that somehow his life is not worth anything? The fact that a fellow biker and human being was killed through negligence that affects all of us is not worth getting angry about?
Bryce was an accomplished cyclist and was killed by a combination of another person's carelessness and a dangerous setting that our city won't rectify. He's not some noob that bought a bike, wobbled off and decided to start bombing through intersections against the lights. See above.
3) The only people here that are getting upset are trolls. I'm going to be an insensitive prick, but that's OK, since I say that I'm being empathetic. The people who are angry about this are hypocrites since they have hashed on hipsters riding dangerously before. Cycling is dangerous so buck up.
OK, so some of the people in this club get irritated when some cyclists (fixie or non) blitz reds and pull other risky stunts. I personally think doing that sort of stuff is kinda dumb but if folks want to risk their lives, that's their prerogative. And somehow everyone is a hypocrite because they are upset when two cyclists legally riding their brake equipped fixies on flat ground while turning right onto another street get overtaken by a dump truck and run over... Yeah, I'm a real nutjob for getting upset about that.
Lang, last time I checked, being alive was dangerous, with a 100% mortality rate. Does that mean that if someone dies ahead of their time I shouldn't care? If cycling is so dangerous, go buy a Hummer. OH WAIT, those are dangerous to drive around too, OH NOES!
4) Yeah, I knew that people who knew Bryce are posting on this thread (even though I just said the opposite) and that's Cool. Is this bunch of whining represented by 100% of the people here or is it just SLB? And quit being a bunch of babies, the article was satire, folks! Catholics can take Pope jokes so lighten up!
OH, MY BAD. Thanks Lang, I'm sure that Caleb and Lauren and Jose are really relieved that you're 'Cool' with them being here.
*whew*
So, my paraphrase above might not be entirely accurate in this instance since I'm not entirely certain where Lang is going with this. As far as I can tell, it's implying that since some of this is posted in Seattle Like Bikes and that not 100% of the people here are interested, we should shut up and stop posting about it.
Given that this thread is right next to one about a Big Mac pizza, I'm thinking Lang should just shut up. So, by that reasoning, the Cyclocross threads shouldn't be here since not everyone's interested in them? Oh yeah, better drop any discussion on these boards that's not about the Tuesday/Thursday rides. CM? Oh no, some people here think CM is dumb, so that's off topic too! I'm not going on the Tokyo Disneyland ride so I'd better start whining they get their own forum to talk about it!
Lang, since you seem to be having trouble with this whole Internet thing (y'know, getting shitcanned from your cushy, high-paying job for browsing porn, Oh, my bad, porn blogs at work), here's some free advice - if you're not interested in a subject.... wait for it... wait... you don't have to click on it! WOW! Computers are amazing!
Oh yeah, and most of the Catholics I know aren't really that cool with Pope jokes.
Just because the 49 deaths article is satire (and pretty crappy satire at that) doesn't mean it's OK. If I show up at a wake and start trash-talking the deceased and then say, "but I'm being satirical, DING!", things are not going to turn into a Mentos commercial. Barnett and company have every right both legally and by the principles of this country to make that article. Conversely, however, the rest of us have every right to be offended by it and to complain to them that they should have some better taste.
That said Lang, just because you're being a prick doesn't mean that I think you don't have a right to post on this thread or be your usually horsecockish self. But don't get all prissy pantsed when you get called out for it.
TrikerTrev
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:05 am
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john has a point...to a degree
but cut Langy slack, hmmm...no, not this time.
Buy him a shovel to extract the paving gravel and glass shards packed into his lady parts, sure!
there are those of us that have shed the calloused skin and can mourn the loss of individuals unknown. and while everyone is entitled their opinion, be prepared for the backlash when emotions are still raw and you wanna play "look, i'm a asshole".
that said...and correct me if im wrong...but wasnt it members pointeethree who started ghost biking up in Seattle? if this reaction were so abrasive and unbecoming to this group, i would have expected more resistance from the beginning. but since the coup seems under powered and narrow minded, how about making your push to control the situation WHEN this started instead of months later...and a week before his folks are due to arrive.
its called tact
"don't overlook my own empathy for the situation here but it is somewhat hypocritical for us as a collective group to bash Cap Hill scenesters for riding bikes in an unsafe manner"
a) you call anything you've said, empathy?
b) i dont recall anyone bashing CH sceankids...just the opposite, in fact. I do believe folks stood UP for them
c) eye wittiness from the site (less than 50 yards if i recall) state the riders had the green light, were not traveling at an excessive rate of speed, were in the dedicated bike lane, and were full on cutoff by a right hand turn that was excessive in speed for the circumstances.
you HAVE followed the story, haven't you?
"I'm almost done being a dick about this. Is this an "official" point83 sanctioned event/ride/dramasaster or along the lines of seattlelikesbikes; which includes a large majority of participating .83 members yet does not represent the group as a whole? "
official? sanctioned? Where the fuck have YOU been? How about ya go start from the beginning of when Bryces death was reported and follow everything people have been doing since then, Jebuz, Langy...WTF?!?
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langston
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:23 am
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well, I guess I've been shouted down. Here's my last on the subject;
Sorry my personal beliefs clash with anyone else's. I love and have a vested interest in the well being of my friends but after enough years on this bitter uncaring rock, I'm a bit of a cynic. I don't mourn the random family that crashes their car on an icy road to no fault of their own. I don't attend funerals or wakes for people I don't know. I've carried enough caskets, seen enough dead bodies and lost enough friends & family to keep my love on a shorter leash. Just because he was on a bike doesn't somehow magically make me/you/us a party with vested interest.
I, for one, would be hella pissed and feel like my privacy was invaded if some BOIs trampled all over my family's grief and suffering in the name of selfish advocacy.
Stamp your feet and get overheated as you want, people are still going to be run over by trucks, keel over in the shower, and leave loved ones behind. Badger your local elected official if you want to decrease risks. I hope your little ride tomorrow creates some solace to someone.
Thanks, John for the little bit of support. Do I think it sucks that this kid got hit and killed, yes. Did I say otherwise? No. Is it nearly criminal that the city hasn't done anything yet to address that dangerous intersection? I think so.
The root of my argument wasn't trying invalidate anyone else's feelings or slam on people's right to organize and impose their empathy on total strangers. I just think the hysteria over one paragraph in a satirical issue of the paper that made this news in the first place that OH NO, summarized the events, was a bit ridiculous. If & when I die on a bike, I'd be honored that anyone gave enough of a shit to publish about it.
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Jumping in far too late:
I like El Stranger, and I like South Park. I've got a few South Park DVDs out of the library, but I find there's only so many episodes I can take before it's just too much snarkiness.
But without the snark, it isn't the same thing. Just like Derrick wouldn't be Derrick without the dumbass cap gun Santa shenanigans.
Also, Foo, yesterday's article in the Times got about 0% of my quotes right, and a number of facts wrong. I'm not going to complain, because I think the spirit was right (unlike, say, Barnett's bizarre take on fixies), but I just think reporters cannot be trusted to write the truth based on verbal interviews. Probably not based on taped or e-mail interviews, either, but at least then they'll probably get the quotes right.
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TrikerTrev
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Mr. 75 Dollars wrote:
I'd be honored that anyone gave enough of a shit to publish about it.
and we would...and i'd still call out anyone who played it down.
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john
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:44 pm
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Foo wrote:
John,
I think you're missing the point a bit here.
If Bryce and Caleb had been dicking around and playing red light chicken and or somehow otherwise been somehow at fault for the accident, there might be some sort of sliver of justification for what Lang said,
Actually no... I cut a big hunk outa there that was right up that alley. I totally agree.
Really... most death jokes my friends used to make about each other came when people were being dickheads and got themselves killed (like say standing off against gangbangers on 45th... or doing nose wheelies on 99 in front of traffic :-).
So yeah... it is less funny when people minding their own business get killed. But hey.. when I get killed... make jokes... but beat the fuckers for hurting my bike. Me dead... eh.... but if they hurt my bike... that's fucked up and not funny.
So like... as above... it's a wierd fucked up value thing, and I am by no means arguing that it is a sign of a healthy mental state... I'm just saying that there is a sampling of people out there that aren't very attached to samsarra... maybee it is an enlightened state or maybe we have been so assfucked by life that we just want out... so we are a little light hearted about it...
but I digress... I totally agree with you... and historically... the sitting around joking about who died generally was for people who were doing really stupid things... and it was never...like... in front of someones Mom...
I'm just trying to wrap my head around where Langstons at...as he is a good guy... pretty compassionate... and I know he doesn't want to cause suffering in others... so... that was just the point I was trying to make.
Of course... when Lansgston dies... he has opened himself up to having a few yuk's made about him... particularly if it is autoerotic and internet based.
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Can we please be done with this and get back to having a good time, riding bikes and making the city better for riding bikes?
Thank you.
lantius
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:42 pm
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so did dead paul make the list or what?
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Mr. 75 Dollars wrote:
if I recall, not a single .83'er had ever even met this guy who was so unfortunate to as to intersect with with el dumptrucko.
A relevant observation (because impersonal lovingkindness and empathy is a damn inefficient goal), but a dickish and incorrect one.
----
2 cents:
Most riders/people who see or hear about fatalities and near-accidents think, "It could've been me," and consider how they would want to be remembered if it had been. What you conclude leads you to act like a sober mourner or crass joke-cracker or anything in between. That's normal, personal, and usually harmless... Unless you end up disrespecting the other people left behind by the deceased or challenging another person's right to their own grieving process.
Basically: mocking others' pain isn't wrong, just keep it to yourself, and don't be a self-righteous asshole if other folks don't feel the same way (or are just rude on teh interblag).
P.S. My little addition wasn't aimed at L.angston, or anyone in particular. Lots of people are clashing on the subject right now, and it's pointless to attack each other based on subjective moral judgments.
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roja wrote:
P.S. My little addition wasn't aimed at L.angston, or anyone in particular. Lots of people are clashing on the subject right now, and it's pointless to attack each other based on subjective moral judgments.
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In fact, i'd go so far as to say that some users ought to be Opt-in.
For example, i dont think any innocent coming in to our little hut of warmth from the cold wet internet should be subject to reading John's senseless rants. But we could have a little list somewhere like "if you're really bored and want to read more senseless internet bullshit, subscribe to one of these users."
All I was saying was it was just too soon. There's no denying the fact that it hurt. I resent Bryce and Caleb being called scenesters, too. Think about what you say before you say it.
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HazeOFephedrinE
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:39 pm
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hi langston this is caleb, i was under the truck with bryce lewis.
now that i've got that out of the way there are a couple things i'd like to mention.
1.)you refered to us as caphill scenesters. i don't think i'm really a scenester. maybe a bit closer than bryce was but still by no means as pretentious as some of the people out there. and bryce was in no scenester either he was probably the most originaly/didn't give a fuck kind of person. the only truth in that statement is we lived in caphill.
2.)its kind of hard to get over something that i was a part of. i think about what happened everyday. i think about bryce everyday. i think of what i could have done to change it everyday. my point being its easy for you to say get over it because it meant nothing to you. for me and many others it means a lot. so why not keep you coments to yourself.
3.)when making a joke about something tragic (if your a big enough asshole to do such a thing) at least give it some time.
also i would like to say that yes the stranger keeps writting some upsetting things, but i've decied to let it roll off my back so to speak, and not give them the satisfation of getting a rise out of me.
john
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henry wrote:
In fact, i'd go so far as to say that some users ought to be Opt-in.
For example, i dont think any innocent coming in to our little hut of warmth from the cold wet internet should be subject to reading John's senseless rants. But we could have a little list somewhere like "if you're really bored and want to read more senseless internet bullshit, subscribe to one of these users."
Not to say I don't have senseless rants...but...
Go eat some Cereal Henry... your blood sugar level is making you grumpy.
little hut of warmth. With equestrian penii and jokes about the special olympics? Might I direct you to a place you may like more?
BTW: I was simply telling them that whereas Laygnston was being a dickhead... he really didn't mean it... and if you didn't get that... sorry. I was in some small way trying to ameliorate the situation.
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