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TrikerTrev
Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:46 pm Reply with quote
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found this, uh, educational...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=J7zb8YXrmIA
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snyd3282
Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:22 pm Reply with quote
could suck the fun out of a blowjob Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 588 Location: Ballard / Fremont

Wow, I would have thought at least ONE person would have asked for ID. Worst case, if I see someone doing something like this I'll ask for proof of ID, write it down and post an I Saw U in the Stranger. If it turns out to be a theft, the perp isn't going to be likely to want to give ID and at least I can help them pinpoint a time and give a description of the perp. Or if it is legit, at worst the owner suffers a little bit of public embarassment.
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FieryIrie
Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:45 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 554 Location: Wallingford

Bwaaaahahahaaa!

Ting. Ting. Ting. Tin!

"How ya doing sir?
Ya can't... Ya can't be in an active lane."

While I can see that in Seattle, I've heard many a story like this about New York.
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chunts
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:42 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 18 May 2007 Posts: 85 Location: Cappy

I saw a guy outside a van obviously trying to steal a locked up bike once on cap hill at 4am. I yelled at him and he hopped in the van and took off.

I think a lot of the stuff in this video is circumstantial. while you *can* get away with doing those things, I don't think most thieves are quite that brazen. if you look like you own the bike people will read that in your body language, and if you do actually own the bike you have nothing to lose if a cop bugs you, where a thief has more concern. if you are glancing around and looking sketchy while you do it, people will notice and get suspicious. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I don't think that this demonstration translates exactly to the real world.
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nail
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:55 am Reply with quote
Joined: 01 Jul 2006 Posts: 86 Location: C.D.

chunts wrote:
if you look like you own the bike people will read that in your body language, and if you do actually own the bike you have nothing to lose if a cop bugs you, where a thief has more concern. if you are glancing around and looking sketchy while you do it, people will notice and get suspicious.


Well, there's a lesson: when you steal a bike, look confident and comfortable, like its your bicycle. Don't look around a lot, dress nice and just take it. Social engineering, I think they call that. Works quite well.

Also, if you are trying to break your own lock, and a cop stops you, do you think the cop is actually going to believe you? Unless you have some sort of bicycle identification system (like a paper in the handlebars with your name/number/etc.) or an actual bicycle registration (and who does that), he'll probably assume you're lying, since you have tools in your hands, and take you down to the station.

Then again, cops don't care about bicycles so much, so they prolly wouldn't even bother either way. They have more important things to do, like shooting black people, and harrassing nightclubs.

On the other side of things, props to you for thwarting a possible bicycle theft. That's Seattle for you. In NYC I wouldn't expect it, not after the Kitty Genovese situation. People there just don't seem to get involved/care.

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Happy Stick Person
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:04 am Reply with quote
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2:43

"nobody gives a shit"

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TrikerTrev
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:03 pm Reply with quote
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nail wrote:


Also, if you are trying to break your own lock, and a cop stops you, do you think the cop is actually going to believe you? Unless you have some sort of bicycle identification system (like a paper in the handlebars with your name/number/etc.) or an actual bicycle registration (and who does that), he'll probably assume you're lying, since you have tools in your hands, and take you down to the station.



lessons still:
along with said thieving tools, make a "business card" and stuff it in the bars/seatpost so that IF you get stopped you can "prove" ownership..."oh, here Mr. Officer, sir, let me show you my secretly stashed proof of ownership card. I lost my keys and dont have a spare".

Like you said, I doubt they'll care enough to question it.
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FieryIrie
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:02 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 554 Location: Wallingford

So now instead of talking about how to keep people from stealing our bikes we're talking about how to safely steal other peoples bikes?

Oh .83....
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