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First Wednesday of every month.
Wed. Dec 5th, 6-8pm, Seattle City Hall building (600 4th Ave) in room L280.
On the schedule for this month, Pete Lagerway is presenting the projects for the Bicycle Master Plan that SDOT plans to address in 2008.
ps - Laura suggests bringing a double tall coffee drink. These meetings can move quite slowly.
snyd3282
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:28 pm
could suck the fun out of a blowjobJoined: 23 Jul 2007Posts: 588Location: Ballard / Fremont
Michael Snyder’s informal notes from the Dec. 5th Seattle Bicycle Advisory Board meeting:
New SBAB members: Ryan Dean, John Melorie (apologies if I mis-spelled those)
Pete Lagerway started with a presentation of the Bicycle Master Plan project ranking system that SDOT developed to prioritize the work. Each of the 5000+ projects was given a score and ranked. The scoring system still needs tweaking, but as revised on 8/07 per suggestions from the SBAB it is as follows:
1. Completes the system – 20 points if the project is listed in the BMP
2. Safety – 30 possible points based on the yearly top 10 lists for census tracks with the highest number of bicycle collisions (I assume these are just the collisions reported through SPD) for each of the last 7 years.
a. 0 points – Not in or passing through any area on any top 10 list.
b. 10 points – In or passing through an area on one top 10 list.
c. 20 points – In or passing through an area on two top 10 lists
d. 30 points – In or passing through an area on three or more top 10 lists.
3. Mobility Improvement – 30 possible points
Adding improvements in areas where there are many cyclists before adding improvements in areas where there are few cyclists.
a. Linkages – 10 possible points
i. 0 points – Project is an isolated facility
ii. 5 points – Project connects to or extends an existing facility
iii. 10 points – Project connects to or extends an existing facility and links two bicycle facilities
b. Major barriers – 10 possible points
i. 0 points – Doesn’t connect across a major barrier (I-5, SR-99, Ship Canal, railroads, Duwamish River)
ii. 5 points – Enhances existing connection across major barrier
iii. 10 points – Provides new connection across major barrier
c. Modal connections – 10 possible points
i. Comes within 300 feet of an access point for one of:
1. Link Light Rail
2. Metro RapidRide
3. Metro Express Bus
4. Washington State Ferry
5. West Seattle Water Taxi
ii. Or connects to one of these transit hubs:
1. King Street Station
2. Westlake Center
3. Colman Dock
4. Northgate Transit Center
iii. 0 points – Doesn’t connect
iv. 2 points – Connects to access point for one mode
v. 4 points – Connects to access point for two modes
vi. 6 points – connects to access point for three modes
vii. 8 points – connects to access point for four modes or a transit hub
4. Land Use Strategy – 20 points
a. Land Use Strategy – 10 possible points
i. 0 points – In a single-family residential area
ii. 5 points – One end in a Neighborhood Community Area
iii. 7 points – one end in an Urban Village or Urban Center
iv. 10 points – both ends in different Urban Villages or Urban Centers
b. Access to Destinations – 10 possible points
i. 0 points – Not within 300 feet of a school, mark, post office, library, neighborhood service center, community center, or employment center for more than 100 employees.
ii. 3 points – Access to one destination
iii. 6 points – Access to two destinations
iv. 10 points – Access to three destinations
With that criteria, the projects to be completed under the Bicycle Master Plan in 2008 are:
15th Ave NE, NE Boat St to NE Pacific St, Bike Lane on both sides, 0.1 miles.
Fairview Ave E, Furhman Ave E to E Garfield St, Pedestrian Pathway as part of the Lake Union Loop Trail, 1.5 miles
7th Ave, Denny to Virginia, Bike Lane on both sides, 0.3 miles
9th Ave, Blanchard to Bell, Sharrows on both sides, 0.1 miles
Spring St, 8th Ave to Alaskan Way, Sharrow on One-Way street, 0.5 miles
NE 103rd St, 1st ave NE to 5th Ave NE, Sharrows on both sides, 0.5 miles
NE 45th St, 17th Ave NE to 5th Ave NE, Bike lane on one side, Sharrow on the other, 0.6 miles
Seneca St, Alaskan Way to Boren, Sharrow on One-Way street, 0.7 miles
5th Ave NE, NE 100th St to NE Northgate Way, Sharrows on both sides, 0.5 miles
NE 40th/Lincoln Way, 7th Ave NE to 15th Ave NE, Bike lanes on both sides, 0.4 miles
Seneca St, Boren to Broadway, Sharrows on both sides, 0.3 miles
Cherry St. 1st Ave to 7th Ave, Sharrow on One-Way street, 0.4 miles
Cherry St, 7th Ave to Broadway, Sharrow on One-Way street, 0.4 miles
James St, 1st Ave to 7th Ave, Sharrow on One-Way Street, 1 mile
University Way NE, NE 34th St. to NE 50th St, Sharrows on both sides, 0.8 miles
Eastlake Ave, Aloha St. to Yale St., Key Corridor for Short-Term ???, 0.8 miles
N 34th St/Northlake Way, Densmore to Phinney Ave N, Bike Lane both sides, 0.8 miles
S Jackson St, Alaskan Way to 14th Ave S., Bike lane one side and Sharrows on the other, 1 mile
25th Ave NE, NE 75th St to NE 80th St, Bike lanes on both sides, 0.3 miles
Broadway St. Yestler Way to E. Aloha St, Sharrows on both sides, 1.8 miles
E. Melrose St, E Roy St. to E. Pine St, Sharrows on both sides, 0.7 miles
1st Ave NE, Northgate Way to NE 117th St, Bike lane on one side and sharrows on the other, 0.4 miles
Queen Anne Ave N, Roy St to Florentia St, Sharrows on both sides, 2 miles
S Alaska St, MLK Jr Way to Rainier Ave S, Bike lane on one side and sharrows on the other, 0.3 miles
Spring St, 8th Ave to Harvard Ave, Sharrow on One-Way street, 0.3 miles
1st Ave S, S Kenyon to S Cloverdale, Bike lanes on both sides, 0.4 miles
Ravenna Pl NE, NE 55th St to 25th Ave NE, Sharrows on both sides, 0.2 miles
17th Ave NW, NW 89th St to NW Ballard Way, Bicycle Boulevard, 2.2 miles
51st Ave S, Rainier Ave S to Beacon Ave S, Bike lane on one side and sharrows on the other, 1 mile.
This should total 20.7 miles of new projects that will be started in 2008.
There are another 10.2 miles of existing or newly completed projects, and 21 miles of multi-year phased projects.
Some of the previously started projects that have some work remaining are:
College Way, N 92nd to Northgate Way, bike lanes and sharrows
Western Ave, Yestler Way to Blanchard, Bike lanes and sharrows
Green Lake Way N, N 50th St to Green Lake Way N, Sharrows
24th Ave NW, NW Market St to NW 85th St, Bike Lanes
SW Admiral Way, SW Olga St to California Ave SW, Sharrows
8th Ave NW, Leary Way NW to NW Market St, Bike Lanes and Sharrows
California Ave SW, Edmunds to Alaska, Sharrows
31st, McClellan to Yestler, Bike lanes and sharrows
McClellan, 31st to Mt Baker, bike lanes and sharrows
McClellan, Mt. Rainier Drive to Seward, bike lanes and sharrows
Swift Ave S, S albro to Beacon Ave S, Bike Lanes
Holly Park Dr. S, S. Myrtle Pl to S Kenyon St, Sharrows
Magnolia Blvd W, W Howe St to 34 CT W, Sharrows
Magnolia Blvd W, WArmour St. to W Emerson St, Sharrows
Dexter, Mercer to Fremont Bridge, Bike lane re-striping / widening
15th Ave W, W. Dravis St to Gilman Dr W, Sharrows
S Lander St, 4th Ave S to Airport Way S, Sharrows
Since there has been some discussion about sharrows vs. bike lanes, I asked about SDOT’s criteria on this. It turns out that it is all tied to the width of the lane. Portland has streets that are almost all the same width. Seattle has many different widths to our streets and some streets change widths as they go along.
SDOT’s primary goal for bicycle facilities is to put in a bike lane, period.
If the road is too narrow for two bike lanes, they put in one bike lane and put a sharrow on the downhill side.
If the road is to narrow for one bike lane, they put sharrows on both sides.
That is all the further their decision making goes.
Although the scoring system didn’t include it, there is a great deal of neighborhood support for adding bicycle facilities on Harvard Ave and with the SBAB’s approval, SDOT will add that to the 2008 project list too.
Next, there was a presentation on the south end viaduct rebuild project. The project manager and engineers showed their current designs which are a vast improvement over previous proposals. This project includes improvements that let cyclists stay on bike paths without crossing rail lines to go from the downtown Seattle waterfront to West Seattle. Currently there is a 10 foot wide trail east of the tracks and east of the road. The new plan has a 10 foot wide paved trail with a minimum of 20 feet of space and some areas containing 30 feet of space. The in-street rail crossing is now at a 90 degree angle, and there is smoother entrance/exits between the trail system and the road.
The Seattle Bicycle Advisory Board is planning a bike-ability tour of the South Lake Union area to look at the impact of the streetcar tracks, take pictures, and include their tour report in the letter that board member Evan Brown is drafting.
The Mayor also sent a directive to the SBAB that they need to act like the other boards. The board members were reminded that they are only allowed 2 excused absences per year and expected to put in 8 hours a month into work related to the board.
snyd3282
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:36 pm
could suck the fun out of a blowjobJoined: 23 Jul 2007Posts: 588Location: Ballard / Fremont
...and the bike related news & my feedback to and questions for the SBAB since I am not a board member.
Bicycling news, events, problems, and improvements that I saw in November that I hope folks are aware of, but I don’t want to interrupt the SBAB meeting with:
Nov 1st- Peter McKay was shot in Delridge from a moving car and one of the BBs entered his lung. This was reported in the PI, but Peter’s blog is better:
http://petermckay.blogspot.com/2007/11/not-typical-commute-home.html
Note, in discussion it came up that another cyclist had been shot at with BBs in the Wallingford area along 45th in April but it wasn’t reported to the police due to minimal details (no license plate).
Within a few days, the Seattle International Randonneurs and the Bicycle Alliance of Washington had worked with Crimestoppers and gathered $7500 from the cyclists and $1000 from Crimestoppers for a reward for information leading to the arrest of Peter McKay’s shooter.
Nov 3rd – Bryce Lewis Memorial Ride. Lots of press coverage in King 5, NW Cable News, Seattle Times, and Seattle PI. Many articles mentioned the Bicycle Master Plan. One news article today on Peter McKay’s incident.
Nov 6th- KIRO aired a short interview with David Hiller debating the Bicycle Master Plan.
Nov 6th- Seattle PI article on the election talks about different commute methods, including bicycle which repeats the oft heard comment that bicycle commuters are risking their lives by cycling on Seattle’s streets. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/338476_transpoprofile07.html
Nov 7th - SBAB meeting, I passed a summary of my meeting notes on to the Cascade forums, Point83, and SeattleLikesBikes.
Nov 9th- A cyclist hit at 8th Ave NW & Leary at the biodiesel gas station. A large truck was blocking the view of cars exiting the business.
Nov 12th - A hit and run driver who hit a cyclist in Olympia turned himself in to the police. http://www.theolympian.com/southsound/story/268212.html He faces a felony charge for tampering with evidence by trying to fix his car and hide the damage.
Nov 13th - Lake Forest Park had another meeting to discuss what they wanted to do with the Burke Gilman Trail. They have been fighting the county and Cascade over stop signs, speed limits, and right of way infringements.
Nov 13th - Seattle PI letter to the editor discussing the default nightly “critical mass” of automobile drivers who clog the streets and prevent cyclists from getting home on time. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/339525_ltrs14.html
Nov 14th - A photographer announced looking for fixie riders in Seattle. He wants to make a book documenting the fixie culture in Seattle. aaron@edgeofdoom.com
Nov 15th - SDOT open house to unveil the plans for the Burke Gilman trail missing link in Ballard.
Nov 16th - Drive by BB shooter hits 9 year old boy. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6420ap_wa_bb_shooting.html
This is the last news article I saw of the BB shooter. Maybe the $8500 of crime stopper rewards is working to deter the crime. It does appear that this is indiscriminate crime against any vulnerable target, not just cyclists.
Nov 21st- Ballard News Tribune has a prominent article on the Burke Gilman Trail missing link plans. It gives good coverage over the various concerns and issues involved in the project from the industrial to the cyclists to the rail line and the city. http://www.ballardnewstribune.com/articles/2007/11/21/news/local_news/news01.txt
Nov 29th - A cyclist was hit by a Porsche at 3rd & Bell.
Nov 29th- A Seattle PI blog post discussing safe cycling techniques at night and in wet conditions. It links to a good San Francisco video showing the dangers and mitigation techniques. This would be a good video to share. http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/velocity/archives/126589.asp
Nov 29th- Kitsap Sun article about a cyclist who rides a pedal boat from Bainbridge to Bremerton every day.
http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2007/nov/29/bainbridge-island-to-bremerton-hey-whatever-your/
Nov 30th- Critical Mass went in circles around the downtown core and then proceeded to Fremont along Westlake. One cyclist got caught in the tracks but was back and riding immediately and did not appear badly injured. Folks corking intersections held “Honk if you like bikes” signs and found many smiling, honking, motorists.
Nov - Bicycling magazine has an article “broken” discussing laws, penalties for motorists who hit and injur, but do not kill, cyclists. The penalties are almost non-existent in many states. It also discusses how we can change this problem.
General things:
Continued discussion of the South Lake Union Trolley or Street Car, whatever the name is supposed to be, tracks being accidents waiting to happen for cyclists.
Joshua Putnam found a company that makes a removable track filler that can be installed after the tracks are in place that looks like a good solution for the trolley line. http://www.ppi-engproducts.com/
Portland installed their first streetcar on the right hand side and had a large number of accidents the first year. They added warning signs and the accident rate dropped back to normal. This may have been due to cyclists learning, or maybe they found other routes after falling once, or maybe they heeded the signs. Portland has installed most of the following streetcars in the center of the road or on dedicated paths.
SeattleLikesBikes.org is planning a peaceful protest ride on the day of the streetcar opening. They would like to see the alternate bike path opened sooner and caution signs added quickly.
There was a discussion on Cascade’s forum about how to safely pass horses when you are riding a bike. Apparently this happens from time to time in the county.
People are noticing the new bike lanes around town. I see continuing complaints of bike lanes and not sharrows on significant downhill grades, and complaints of the decision to put the bike lane “on the steepest road in several blocks”. Can SDOT provide 2-3 arguments that support the placement of the bike lanes and/or lane vs. sharrow decisions in some nice place that we can point people to? Is there a set of guidelines that are, or can be, documented and shared?
SDOT is making the decision on Stone Way in Dec, right? Can we see the traffic numbers?
For the SBAB, DPD wanted to know what questions SBAB had for them before they showed up. Here are my thoughts:
1. Can we get a presentation of the requirements that DPD has for bicycle facilities in new buildings?
a. Do they specify lighting levels for the bicycle parking area?
b. Do the specify tenant vs. guest requirements?
c. Is there any provision for signage to help cyclists find the parking area if it is in the lowest, darkest, furthest corner of the garage?
d. Are there shower and/or locker requirements?
e. How much cycling facility is required per 100 people?
f. Are there incentives, tax or other requirement exemptions, for installing additional cycling facilities?
2. Is it possible to get statistics on how often those requirements are waived?
Michael Snyder
gsbarnes
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:41 pm
Joined: 15 Aug 2006Posts: 2666Location: No Fun Town, USA
snyd3282 wrote:
Fairview Ave E, Furhman Ave E to E Garfield St, Pedestrian Pathway as part of the Lake Union Loop Trail, 1.5 miles
So what about the part where there is no Fairview Ave E (between Roanoke and Hamlin)? Have they made any plans there? I guess they could put in a floating dock/walk like Portland did on the east side of the Willamette near the Steel Bridge, but why do I suspect they're going to go for the cheap option?
snyd3282 wrote:
NE 45th St, 17th Ave NE to 5th Ave NE, Bike lane on one side, Sharrow on the other, 0.6 miles
Holy crap! That's fine with me, but I didn't think it had the room. Per their guidelines, I guess it's bike lane eastbound, sharrows westbound, as it's downhill to the west.
Also, the bike boulevard up 17th Ave NW is a very good idea.
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snyd3282
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:45 pm
could suck the fun out of a blowjobJoined: 23 Jul 2007Posts: 588Location: Ballard / Fremont
gsbarnes wrote:
snyd3282 wrote:
Fairview Ave E, Furhman Ave E to E Garfield St, Pedestrian Pathway as part of the Lake Union Loop Trail, 1.5 miles
So what about the part where there is no Fairview Ave E (between Roanoke and Hamlin)? Have they made any plans there? I guess they could put in a floating dock/walk like Portland did on the east side of the Willamette near the Steel Bridge, but why do I suspect they're going to go for the cheap option?
I'm going to go out on a limb here from looking at the map & birds eye view on microsoft maps and guess that they will try to route up along Yale Terrace E. Or, maybe they could acquire a bit of lakefront right of way and take the trail in front of some nice houses.
I'll look into it and let you know if I find out anything.
My only concern about a bike boulevard on 17th ave NW is signage for some of the cross traffic that has a tendency to not look for oncoming traffic before they enter 17th, and the post office at 57th & the hospital around 52nd do get a bit of traffic. I like the idea, I ride 17th quite a bit, I just hope they do a good job with the implementation.
ksep
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:03 pm
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snyd3282 wrote:
The Seattle Bicycle Advisory Board is planning a bike-ability tour of the South Lake Union area to look at the impact of the streetcar tracks, take pictures, and include their tour report in the letter that board member Evan Brown is drafting.
Do they plan/do the ride in secret? I wouldn't mind going along. Guess I'll try e-mailing bikeboard@seattle.gov later today.
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snyd3282
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:30 pm
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abamfici wrote:
snyd3282 wrote:
The Seattle Bicycle Advisory Board is planning a bike-ability tour of the South Lake Union area to look at the impact of the streetcar tracks, take pictures, and include their tour report in the letter that board member Evan Brown is drafting.
Do they plan/do the ride in secret? I wouldn't mind going along. Guess I'll try e-mailing bikeboard@seattle.gov later today.
Holy crap! Those video clips are frightening! Send them to bikeboard@seattle.gov so they can include them!
I've asked if they could let me know when they do the ride, some of their previous rides have been open to the public but not widely announced. I haven't heard back on this one, they might be having scheduling problems due to the holidays.
Stef
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:37 pm
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abamfici wrote:
snyd3282 wrote:
The Seattle Bicycle Advisory Board is planning a bike-ability tour of the South Lake Union area to look at the impact of the streetcar tracks, take pictures, and include their tour report in the letter that board member Evan Brown is drafting.
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