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snyd3282
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:42 pm Reply with quote
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The City of Bellevue is currently working on a project to encourage and promote bicycling in downtown Bellevue, and would like to have the involvement of some cyclists in the Bellevue Area.
The City of Bellevue is hosting a meeting on Monday December 17th at 4:00pm and would greatly appreciate it if one or two bike commuters could attend to help them understand the needs of urban cyclists in Bellevue.

If you are interested please reply to isaaca@sudevelopment.com as soon as possible so they can prepare for the meeting and send out the meeting details and agenda.


Bellevue Urban Bikes
Meeting #1
Date: Monday December 17, 2007
Location: Bellevue City Hall Room 1E-112
Time: 4:00-5:30pm
Agenda:
1. Group Introductions, Beverages and Refreshments
2. BUB (Bellevue Urban Bikes)
a. Our Concept
b. Meeting Purpose
3. Needs and Usage
a. Why are you biking? (commuter, fitness, social, ecological, ….)
b. Where are you biking to and from? We will have a map of downtown for you to mark routes and locations.
c. When do you bike? (specific times of day, seasonally, events, …)
d. What are your top reasons for making a choice not to bike?
e. Does downtown Bellevue want or need shared bikes as a mode of transportation? What would you like to see included in the program for a shared public bicycle network. We will provide an overview of some existing bikeshare models.
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henry
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:45 pm Reply with quote
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Shared bikes in bellevue seems like a recipe for a bunch of dead high school kids.

I'm all for it.

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langston
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:47 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 5547 Location: Columbia City

I wish they were including the rest of Bellevue in this, there would be more cyclists in downtown if they could get there better via I-90.


Henry, what's the best way?
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henry
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:57 pm Reply with quote
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There is no great way that i know of.

The two ways that come to mind are:

Bellevue Way- fuckton of traffic, angry bellevue drivers. But this is the flattest and most direct. I don't really mind it in a group, but i'll avoid it by myself.

108th- this way is pretty direct too but you go over two non-trivial hills, there other routes you could take staying west of Bellevue way, but those are all hilly


If you're coming from the east 116th makes sense, but you'll still have to climb in to downtown proper.

Bellevue is not a fun place to ride a bike. At all.

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martin
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:57 pm Reply with quote
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Mr. Obstinate wrote:
I wish they were including the rest of Bellevue in this, there would be more cyclists in downtown if they could get there better via I-90.


Henry, what's the best way?


The roads through bellevue are actually pretty damn good. The issue is more the cell-phone-talking-mercedes-suv-driving-idiots that are the problem.

Best way from 90 is to wrap underneadth 90, then across that bridge to the slough, then over that crappy cement path to 114th or whatever its called.

(BHS....BHS the best '94)
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ripper
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:08 pm Reply with quote
evilmike Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 640 Location: Capitalist Hill

It depends on where in Bellevue you want to go, I guess. I work near Bellevue Square. After I get across the bridge, I ride up 110th to 28th, make left on 28th to 108th, then I ride 108th to Bellevue Way. I then take bellevue way, because 108th north of bellevue way is extremely stupid for bikes.

Being a cyclist in bellevue, up to this point, has been better than being a pedestrian. Waiting for the lights and crossing a bajillion lanes of traffic is absurd.

but like martin says, 118th to the concrete path ain't shabby if you're trying to get to the 'heart' of Bellevue.

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ripper
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:09 pm Reply with quote
evilmike Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 640 Location: Capitalist Hill

That said, I'm probably going to go to this. I'm multi-modal and take 520, so I would totally appreciate some thought about the evergreen and yarrow point routes.

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langston
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:22 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 5547 Location: Columbia City

ripper wrote:
That said, I'm probably going to go to this. I'm multi-modal and take 520, so I would totally appreciate some thought about the evergreen and yarrow point routes.



wouldn't one go through Medina on that major arterial (8th?) and then take the right that takes you over to 520, just like the bus does? I don't know street names for this route and I'm too lazy to gmap it, but I can picture it.
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derrickito
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:39 pm Reply with quote
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are they only asking for one or two cyclists from bellevue because that's all there are?

ps, cc jace.
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pete jr
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:39 am Reply with quote
Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 1930 Location: balls deepx

8th (and what it becomes) has non-trivial hills as well- i'd just head down main and follow it along lake washington blvd- this will get you to the same place avoiding a hill.

also, i distinctly remember last summer when henry, lee and i went to bellevue for burritos, and we only saw one other cyclist. we were surprised to see even that one, before realizing it was rlotz.
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n_claw
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:54 am Reply with quote
Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 517 Location: the only hill: Beacon

awesome! i'm putting this in the next SLB newsletter, should be out today or tomorrow. will send it to you first so you can give it the editorial eye.
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FieryIrie
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:27 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 554 Location: Wallingford

I fucking hate Bellevue. And I definitely hate Bellevue on a bike.
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marisa
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:53 am Reply with quote
Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 2 Location: Fremont via Bellevue

henry wrote:
There is no great way that i know of.

The two ways that come to mind are:

Bellevue Way- fuckton of traffic, angry bellevue drivers. But this is the flattest and most direct. I don't really mind it in a group, but i'll avoid it by myself.

108th- this way is pretty direct too but you go over two non-trivial hills, there other routes you could take staying west of Bellevue way, but those are all hilly


If you're coming from the east 116th makes sense, but you'll still have to climb in to downtown proper.

Bellevue is not a fun place to ride a bike. At all.


It would be great if this little group could do a better job of installing signs on the roads to remind cars to watch out for bikers- people in Bellevue are too worried about getting to Nordstroms more quickly than driving properly. On thursday Dec 6 at 4 pm my 15 year old sister was riding to school on Bellevue Way when she was struck just as she about cleared an exit leading out of the mall. She was riding on the sidewalk because Bellevue Way was so busy and had stopped at the exit and checked for cars, seeing none she rode through and had just cleared it when a car rolled out of the exit without stopping to turn right and ran over her back tire flipping her over the front of the bike. Her bike was totalled and she had to walk home where my mom took her to the hospital where she was treated for a concussion. The guy who hit her stopped, rolled down her window and said "are you all right?" and then took off while she was still on the ground. No one reported the incident to the police even though it happened in rush hour at one of the busiest intersections in Belleue. I don't foresee Bellevue becoming a mecca for bikers anytime soon.
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TrikerTrev
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:29 am Reply with quote
Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 2303 Location: FOCO, MOFO!!!

FieryIrie wrote:
I fucking hate Bellevue. And I definitely hate Bellevue on a bike.

Henry wrote:
Bellevue is not a fun place to ride a bike. At all.


the only way to vaguely enjoy HELLvue on a bike is either @ 3 am or after the apocalypse. Same thing goes for Kirkland, Medina and Redmond (to an extent)...pretty much most of the Eastside can go fuck it's self.
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zuvembi
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:44 am Reply with quote
Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 942 Location: Little Addis Ababa

TrikerTrev wrote:
FieryIrie wrote:
I fucking hate Bellevue.And I definitely hate Bellevue on a bike.

Henry wrote:
Bellevue is not a fun place to ride a bike. At all.


the only way to vaguely enjoy HELLvue on a bike is either @ 3 am or after the apocalypse. Same thing goes for Kirkland, Medina and Redmond (to an extent)...pretty much most of the Eastside can go fuck it's self.


My first thought about how to improve cycling in Bellevue?

Drop about 3.5 million tons of munitions on the city until it's a razed hole in the ground, then pave some nice bike paths through the rubble.

All that said, I ride in Bellevue a bit, and it's really not bad in comparison to other places I've been.
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