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this is one of the reasons i ride garbage bikes. if someone really wants your bike, they will have it. best to be out $200 than a more reasonable sum.
i'm being an asshole, but i'm drunk. sorry that happened.
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sorry to hear that john...thats just nearly unavoidable, i guess.
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:06 am
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jesus. That's some balls! It might be worth your time to see if there were any security cameras in the area that might have gotten the truck's plate.
oh and Pete, once you get a big-boy job I'm going to laugh at you when you buy yourself a new bike with you first check.
This is somewhat relative to my strategy of building up a nice but "old" steel touring frame with high end drivetrain, but I know that John is a weight weenie and likes his plastic bikes.
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:12 am
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john wrote:
Time:
6-7 PM, rush hour. There were about 100 people standing around.
John,
This sucks! May these thieves rot in the same circle of hell the Merckx theives should be decomposing in. How is it that out of 100 people no one got more details for you? Make/model on the truck or a license number? I am loosing faith in humanity if everyone stood by and did nothing ...
My condolences - it's a pretty, pretty bike.
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:27 am
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Mr. Obstinate wrote:
This is somewhat relative to my strategy of building up a nice but "old" steel touring frame with high end drivetrain, but I know that John is a weight weenie and likes his plastic bikes.
John likes expensive bikes (I have a soft spot for certain flavors too), but I don't think I'd call him a weight weenie. His short-lived O'Brien was built with the heaviest weight MTB tubeset available to make it bombproof.
I built my IvyCycles for similar types of riding, but in contrast I used one of the lightest available tubesets.
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pete jr wrote:
this is one of the reasons i ride garbage bikes. if someone really wants your bike, they will have it. best to be out $200 than a more reasonable sum.
i'm being an asshole, but i'm drunk. sorry that happened.
What sucks is the memories lost... and that is no different on any bike. In fact, my most irreplaceable/sentimental bike I have is the Paris Sport that Aaron sold me for $25. Having that stolen would have been far more horrible. Hence your null hypothesis that a cheap bike is better is rejected.
In this case they stole the entire bike rack... so... not only should you include buying a cheap bike in your hypothesis... but you may want to avoid locking your bike on a bike rack, especially if there are bikes on it that someone wants. By your logic you need a bike that you can leave on the side of the building and no one will walk away with it.
I ride about 7,000 to 10,000 miles a year. I don't want to spend that amount of time on that kind of bike.
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john wrote:
Time:
6-7 PM, rush hour. There were about 100 people standing around.
You may have already seen this, someone sent me it after my bike as stolen @ 3rd + University from in front of a really busy coffee shop last year..
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:57 am
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Wow, that's a hell of a story. As Langston said, I'd be surprised if there wasn't a security camera in the area.
Tell me you reported this to the police and the folks in charge of installing racks. (206) 684-7583 I'm sure they'd like to know how worthless they are so they can secure them to the ground better.
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:10 am
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1) WTF?
2) How did you get those details of what happened? Were there witnesses who saw the whole event, yet did nothing to stop it?
3) Which NY lock did you have?
The Bic pen model:
Or the Fahgettaboudit:
If it's the former, i don't see why they had to take the whole rack, other than they were on meth, because those are easily removed with said Bic pen or a lead pipe. If it's the latter, they've got a hell of a project ahead of them and they'll need more meth.
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:17 am
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^^^ Pretty sure it was the Fahgettaboutit, since that's the one that John insisted I buy when I got my Surly. Yeah, they'll have a good time getting that one off the bike... unless of course they're just going to strip the components off the frame.
Shoulda left the tubes wrapped around the frame, it made the bike look a whole lot shittier.
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:23 am
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jillita wrote:
1) WTF?
2) How did you get those details of what happened? Were there witnesses who saw the whole event, yet did nothing to stop it?
3) Which NY lock did you have?
Knowing John even the bit that I do, I'm pretty sure he had the Fahgettaboutit. There was a thread on Bikeforums.net a while back from someone who had a Fahgettaboutit that got cut through, so even that isn't absolute, regardless of the rack's mobility.
John,
What kind of rack was it? Some of those bike racks in public places are solid enough that it seems like you'd need a tractor or a jack hammer to get them up, but others (like the one I lock my bike to everyday I'm at work...) seem like they'd come up with a few good whacks from a ball peen hammer.
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:25 am
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I think they topped the netstat brothers...
Here's the pic of the rack.
Apparently they snapped part of it off the ground with a breaker bar.
You can see the snapped off concrete anchors.
It was the New York lock, not the short shackle, but still the one with the thicker than standard shackle that resists 6' breaker bars. These guys really knew what they were doing.
Those of you who knew the bike knew that I had pretty much completely delogo'd the bike, so they had to know what they were looking at... they were knowledgeable people who really wanted this bike and went to a lot of effort and risk to steal it.
They also had to know that it takes 12 minutes with a ceramic cutting wheel to cut through a Kryptonite NY lock, otherwise I suspect they would have tried an angle grinder.
It was kinda a mind fuck as I was going over to unlock my bike and bring it into the convention center as it was getting dark... and I was like...
hey... where's the bike...
wait... there's no bike rack...
where did I put my...
WTF...
THEY STOLE THE WHOLE BIKE RACK?
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what type of rack was it originally? the post-and-ring, single-post style?
as far as pete's "only out $200", i have renter's insurance with a $200 deductible, so that's my attitude with every bike.
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:41 am
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john wrote:
It was kinda a mind fuck as I was going over to unlock my bike and bring it into the convention center as it was getting dark... and I was like...
hey... where's the bike...
wait... there's no bike rack...
where did I put my...
WTF...
THEY STOLE THE WHOLE BIKE RACK?
I would have freaked the fuck out, drooling screaming and rolling on the ground.
*note to self* get bikes covered by insurance ASAP. Bike Thieves be getting brave!
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:56 am
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lantius wrote:
what type of rack was it originally? the post-and-ring, single-post style?
as far as pete's "only out $200", i have renter's insurance with a $200 deductible, so that's my attitude with every bike.
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I noticed at 7pm this past Wednesday that a bike rack is missing from the north side of Pacific Place mall, on Olive at 6th Ave. I don't know how long that rack's been gone or why, but perhaps these same guys took that one as well. The rack was very near a mall entrance, so maybe there's a camera there that caught some shenanigans.
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the dreaded ben wrote:
god doesn't like you.
I hate him back... it works for me.
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MyNameIsJeff wrote:
I guess you can never underestimate the indifference of people.
I think it's more the spite of Ben.
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John, I'm sorry about your bike. I snapped this at the SLB s.l.u.t. ride last Wednesday night:
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:34 am
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With bicycle thefts lately, I've been toying around with a couple ideas.
1. Make a lo/jack for your bike using one of those pay-as-you-go cell phones that have GPS abilities + a hub generator. For anything with big oval shaped tubes it seems like a small cell phone could be slipped inside the tube when building the frame.
2. Stick a RFID chip under the handlebar tape, record the ID offline, and then you would have a cheap, hidden ID for your bike.
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:39 am
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snyd3282 wrote:
With bicycle thefts lately, I've been toying around with a couple ideas.
1. Make a lo/jack for your bike using one of those pay-as-you-go cell phones that have GPS abilities + a hub generator. For anything with big oval shaped tubes it seems like a small cell phone could be slipped inside the tube when building the frame.
2. Stick a RFID chip under the handlebar tape, record the ID offline, and then you would have a cheap, hidden ID for your bike.
isnt the RFID part of the mark of the beast?
lol
snyd3282
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:48 am
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Stef wrote:
snyd3282 wrote:
With bicycle thefts lately, I've been toying around with a couple ideas.
1. Make a lo/jack for your bike using one of those pay-as-you-go cell phones that have GPS abilities + a hub generator. For anything with big oval shaped tubes it seems like a small cell phone could be slipped inside the tube when building the frame.
2. Stick a RFID chip under the handlebar tape, record the ID offline, and then you would have a cheap, hidden ID for your bike.
isnt the RFID part of the mark of the beast?
lol
Only if it is embedded into your body.
...then again, I think they said the same thing about barcodes, and before that social security numbers, and before that...well, interperet however you want.
With bicycle thefts lately, I've been toying around with a couple ideas.
1. Make a lo/jack for your bike using one of those pay-as-you-go cell phones that have GPS abilities + a hub generator. For anything with big oval shaped tubes it seems like a small cell phone could be slipped inside the tube when building the frame.
2. Stick a RFID chip under the handlebar tape, record the ID offline, and then you would have a cheap, hidden ID for your bike.
isnt the RFID part of the mark of the beast?
lol
Only if it is embedded into your body.
...then again, I think they said the same thing about barcodes, and before that social security numbers, and before that...well, interperet however you want.
so my bike has a potential of being a minion of the antichrist, great
what else? more rain?
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been searching craigslists or anywhere else online john? I found this but it doesn't seem quite right...
the dreaded ben
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the dreaded ben
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shall i continue?
langston
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:28 pm
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I'd like an RFID chip on my bike. I'd even pay more than nothing for it. If he had one, John would have his bike back and we'd have a bike-theif scalp on the wall.
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Mr. Obstinate wrote:
I'd like an RFID chip on my bike. I'd even pay more than nothing for it. If he had one, John would have his bike back and we'd have a bike-theif scalp on the wall.
Explain to me how a passive radio reflector with a range of (I'll be generous) 25 yards, would help find John's bike.
It's not like we could fire up the bike equivalent of the Mystery Machine and track the RFID signal across the city. If you saw the bike in front of you, you could verify it was John's, but otherwise, you're SOL.
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:03 pm
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gsbarnes wrote:
Mr. Obstinate wrote:
I'd like an RFID chip on my bike. I'd even pay more than nothing for it. If he had one, John would have his bike back and we'd have a bike-theif scalp on the wall.
Explain to me how a passive radio reflector with a range of (I'll be generous) 25 yards, would help find John's bike.
It's not like we could fire up the bike equivalent of the Mystery Machine and track the RFID signal across the city. If you saw the bike in front of you, you could verify it was John's, but otherwise, you're SOL.
Id like to live in a world of "what-ifs''
well, what if?
snyd3282
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:15 pm
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gsbarnes wrote:
Mr. Obstinate wrote:
I'd like an RFID chip on my bike. I'd even pay more than nothing for it. If he had one, John would have his bike back and we'd have a bike-theif scalp on the wall.
Explain to me how a passive radio reflector with a range of (I'll be generous) 25 yards, would help find John's bike.
It's not like we could fire up the bike equivalent of the Mystery Machine and track the RFID signal across the city. If you saw the bike in front of you, you could verify it was John's, but otherwise, you're SOL.
Right. You'd need a bunch of RFID readers and one of those readers would have to cross paths with the bike. The $80 cell phone lo/jack would be better. All the RFID thing does is give you another way to say "that bike is mine".
the dreaded ben
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:22 pm
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langston
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:33 pm
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gsbarnes wrote:
Mr. Obstinate wrote:
I'd like an RFID chip on my bike. I'd even pay more than nothing for it. If he had one, John would have his bike back and we'd have a bike-theif scalp on the wall.
Explain to me how a passive radio reflector with a range of (I'll be generous) 25 yards, would help find John's bike.
It's not like we could fire up the bike equivalent of the Mystery Machine and track the RFID signal across the city. If you saw the bike in front of you, you could verify it was John's, but otherwise, you're SOL.
this answer is unacceptable. Fail. I'd be okay with something that went down a seattube or something, Lo-Jack if that's what you want to call it. Don't give me the BS about RFID not being powerful enough, if it's good enough for SWAT it'll find my bike.
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