In general, I avoid puddles (most from clogged storm drains) like the plague. I take the lane like a fool in these big rain storms because I figure what I can't see may kill me. Or at least re-arrange my face.
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:28 pm
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Well, this is more like "a cyclist wants action".
Interestingly, the PI contacted SLB to see if we had any information on this problem before they wrote the story. We gave them what we had, which wasn't much.
I think this is more a problem for easily intimidated cyclists who aren't quite confident enough to take a lane yet.
Out of curiosity, does anyone have a storm grate (or multiple grates) that bug them that they'd like see replaced? The only ones I know of are on the shoulder of I-90 just east of the snoqualmie summit.
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the bus tunnel vent grates on 3rd avenue are treacherous. Just like any other steel grate. I ride out in the lane to avoid them, because that's how you do it if you're not a total fucking goober.
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What about the Montlake, University, Fremont and Ballard bridges? And I'm not talking about the pedestrian lane, I'm talking about the car lanes. Those are dangerous! I once biked across the Montlake bridge in the car lanes in pouring rain and almost fell over a few times.
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:06 am
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montlake, university, and fremont - whatever, the pedestrian path is decent and you can ride your bike over it. the ballard bridge, surprise surprise, remains a giant shithole.
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:49 am
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Two wrecks that I have yet to partake in. Bridge deck and Grates. Been in just about every other kind though...
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:58 am
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This is all part of the citys master plan to get rid of storm drains. 8)
But their sooo cool.
And some of them you can even ride your bike in!
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articles like this are fucking embarrassing.
jezusfuckingchristonacracker, is it possible for cyclists to NOT whine like they have sore pussies?
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:28 am
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$500 for a replacement! WTF!
I think that's the true problem here...
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$500 is cheaper than Spokane's $500-$1200 estimate when they are already tearing up the street, or $10,000 (yes, ten thousand) when there is no other work being done in that area.
$500 is cheaper than Spokane's $500-$1200 estimate when they are already tearing up the street, or $10,000 (yes, ten thousand) when there is no other work being done in that area.
I find this amazing, yet totally typical. Aren't these just forged metal? It's not like it's CNC'd titanium.
How hard would it be to drop in one where the slots are running the other way? Would it not drain the same?
I guess that wouldn't justify paying the 5 union guys for 8hrs though...
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TrikerTrev wrote:
articles like this are fucking embarrassing.
jezusfuckingchristonacracker, is it possible for cyclists to NOT whine like they have sore pussies?
judging by your post here, apparently not?
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3dw wrote:
Alex wrote:
$500 is cheaper than Spokane's $500-$1200 estimate when they are already tearing up the street, or $10,000 (yes, ten thousand) when there is no other work being done in that area.
I find this amazing, yet totally typical. Aren't these just forged metal? It's not like it's CNC'd titanium.
How hard would it be to drop in one where the slots are running the other way? Would it not drain the same?
I guess that wouldn't justify paying the 5 union guys for 8hrs though...
My guess is that something else about the old storm drains don't meet current requirements. They can't just drop in another grate, they need to replace the whole entrance to the storm sewer. The existing one is grandfathered in until it is messed with.
I don't really know, this is just a guess. I can't see any other way for the price to jump from $500 to $10,000.
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The picture in the PI illustrates the point but riding more than 12" off the edge of the curb is still hardly "taking the lane." The photo of the Spokane drain which is more offset from the curb presents a more worrisome location.
It is not going to happen over night and it involves a lot more than a new cast grate.
500$, is not a bad price and obviously makes the most sense to be done in conjunction with other street work. the 20 fold increase to 10k, can add up quickly when you take into account, Engineering, Labor, Materials, and Administration to tear up, install an entire catch basin (not just the grate), re-pave the street, re-pour a concrete slab for the side walk. Mobilizing a back hoe, dump truck, jack hammer, asphalt truck, concrete truck, all to put in one replaced catch basin.
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lantius wrote:
montlake, university, and fremont - whatever, the pedestrian path is decent and you can ride your bike over it. the ballard bridge, surprise surprise, remains a giant shithole.
Don't forget South Park! Although I suspect the major worry there is that it will just fall into the Duwamish one of these days.
Actually, I want to know what to do about the upside down storm grate on the path between Mary Gates and Sieg that I pass almost every day. I tried to pick it up and flip it over, but my wimpy arms were not up to the task.
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Actually, I want to know what to do about the upside down storm grate on the path between Mary Gates and Sieg that I pass almost every day. I tried to pick it up and flip it over, but my wimpy arms were not up to the task.
Tell me when ya wanna meet and I'll bring a crowbar or we can both lift it out.
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lantius wrote:
TrikerTrev wrote:
articles like this are fucking embarrassing.
jezusfuckingchristonacracker, is it possible for cyclists to NOT whine like they have sore pussies?
judging by your post here, apparently not?
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john wrote:
gsbarnes wrote:
Actually, I want to know what to do about the upside down storm grate on the path between Mary Gates and Sieg that I pass almost every day. I tried to pick it up and flip it over, but my wimpy arms were not up to the task.
Tell me when ya wanna meet and I'll bring a crowbar or we can both lift it out.
Or email the SDOT Bike & Ped spot fix address. Probably faster to get a crowbar and an extra set of hands though.
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snyd3282 wrote:
john wrote:
gsbarnes wrote:
Actually, I want to know what to do about the upside down storm grate on the path between Mary Gates and Sieg that I pass almost every day. I tried to pick it up and flip it over, but my wimpy arms were not up to the task.
Tell me when ya wanna meet and I'll bring a crowbar or we can both lift it out.
Or email the SDOT Bike & Ped spot fix address. Probably faster to get a crowbar and an extra set of hands though.
technically that'd be uw facilities. seems like they should be able to fix it reasonably quickly, right? tell them if they don't you'll use your powers to get their internet turned off.
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lantius wrote:
technically that'd be uw facilities. seems like they should be able to fix it reasonably quickly, right? tell them if they don't you'll use your powers to get their internet turned off.
Their online form seems to demand that problems be indoors. We'll see what happens.
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Jace wrote:
But their sooo cool.
And some of them you can even ride your bike in!
Really?! Cool! Where are they? Let's have a .83 ride go in one of them!
snyd3282 wrote:
Or email the SDOT Bike & Ped spot fix address.
I'm too lazy to look that up. Can you inform us what it is?
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DJStroky wrote:
snyd3282 wrote:
Or email the SDOT Bike & Ped spot fix address.
I'm too lazy to look that up. Can you inform us what it is?
NOTE: I have found it significantly satisfying to have crumbly parts of my commute repaired in less than two days after filling out their webform. Few things work so well.
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Jace wrote:
i see you've been taking your b-vitamin supplements
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NOTE: I have found it significantly satisfying to have crumbly parts of my commute repaired in less than two days after filling out their webform. Few things work so well.
That's too haardd.
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pete jr wrote:
Jace wrote:
i see you've been taking your b-vitamin supplements
This isn't the TMNT thread
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gsbarnes wrote:
lantius wrote:
technically that'd be uw facilities. seems like they should be able to fix it reasonably quickly, right? tell them if they don't you'll use your powers to get their internet turned off.
Their online form seems to demand that problems be indoors. We'll see what happens.
I walked outside, and the drain cover was in its proper position. I deduce that all FS Works requests are fixed instantaneously. Who knew?
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DJStroky wrote:
snyd3282 wrote:
Or email the SDOT Bike & Ped spot fix address.
I'm too lazy to look that up. Can you inform us what it is?
I sent in an email about the F'd up situation on Alaska, right infront of the Coast Guard facility. That 100yd stretch is a deathtrap!
Take 1st.
Alaska/marginal sucks and was another of those "put cyclists over there out of sight out of mind" concepts.
They put a bike path out there with no plans to maintain it and only the hope that it would remove cyclists from traffic. That route has some of the most poorly planned flow control of any bike path design in seattle.
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john wrote:
Take 1st.
Alaska/marginal sucks and was another of those "put cyclists over there out of sight out of mind" concepts.
They put a bike path out there with no plans to maintain it and only the hope that it would remove cyclists from traffic. That route has some of the most poorly planned flow control of any bike path design in seattle.
The spot I told them about just needs a front-loader to grade out the potholes on the shoulder and a street-sweeper to clean up all the gravel. Alaska isn't that bad, and I prefer the semi-trucks to the freeway on-ramp traffic at 7am. At least the semi-trucks expect me to be there and give wide clearance (usually)
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Trevor if you dive, duck, or dip any lower, you and your trike would be underground.
yeah, like 6 feet!
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What about the old school grate on the BG trail in the U District? It's just waiting for you!
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derrickito wrote:
I think before we discuss we need to address the following questions:
Does the star destroyer get to use all of its support craft?
Does the NCC 1077 D get to use its shuttlecraft?
Can deflectors from star wars work against phasers and transporters?
Is Darth Vader on board?
Who is hotter, Counselor Troy or Doctor Crusher?
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koos42 wrote:
I think before we discuss we need to address the following questions:
Does the star destroyer get to use all of its support craft? "We'll have to fight 'em ship to ship. Get the crews to their fighters."
Does the NCC 1077 D get to use its shuttlecraft? psh, go ahead! shuttle craft over a SD full of TIE Fighters...ooOOoo
Can deflectors from star wars work against phasers and transporters? Duh!
Is Darth Vader on board? sure, but to be fair, Kirk can be on the Enterprise (time's off, but a hand to hand fight between the two would kick ASS!).
Who is hotter, Counselor Troy or Doctor Crusher? Troy, Crusher was no MILF.
sex? whats that? oh wait...thats that thing boys and girls do BEFORE they make kids.
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There must be some other bike advocacy group or person pushing this one, SLB wasn't involved past answering a few questions, now there is a story on komo too:
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