goes to elevenJoined: 25 Jul 2005Posts: 3899Location: The Cloud
We need some Embedded software engineers at gridpoint.
Real full time jobs with vacation and health insurance and stuff.
You'd get to hang out with me every day! And see me wear dress-up clothes! And enjoy free Espresso and cheese!
If you've done real embedded programming, that would awesome. If you've never done embedded but are a procedural C ninja, that could also work.
We also need an experienced QA person who can code.
Give me a PM or a call.
henry
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:24 pm
somewhat piggishJoined: 05 Aug 2005Posts: 5415Location: on porch with shotgun
Yay we're hiring too!
But i don't want to work with any of you. (except possibly Robin, but that's touch and go).
Grumpy GreebJoined: 20 Aug 2005Posts: 5329Location: flavor country
we're hiring too, but you have to have really little fingers.
MyNameIsJeff
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:00 am
BOOSH!Joined: 17 Jul 2007Posts: 2042Location: Nearest bar.
I could use someone with a strong technical background for a short 3-4 week contract testing some forefront exchange stuff. You don't need to be a dev or super genius.
key lime
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:16 am
it never happenedJoined: 13 Mar 2008Posts: 1142Location: Wallenfjord
Matthew wrote:
We're hiring too, but you need a B.S. in an engineering discipline or hard physics, your NRC senior reactor operator licence and a Q clearance.
So if you want the job, you've never been safe, unless by safe you mean design margins >1.
Plus side, there's a 35K signing bonus with 12K loyalty bonuses every year after- but they'll extract it one nickel at a time in uncomfortable ways.
I've worked with "his people"
I turned down the $60K (I hear it's up to $100K nowadays) bonus for a two year contract
perks include:
-food poisoning
-getting sprayed with shit water by toilets
-fake healthcare, "take some motrin and stuff it" style
-no privacy
-soul crushing boredom in a completely unstimulating environment
-no sex for 10months at a time (sometimes longer)
-being surrounded by 5000 of the nastiest trailer trash you've ever met in a floating prison - and having to obey some of them! No joke, your peers will be people who don't know well enough to wash their hands between shitting and serving you food (see perk #1)
-ionizing radiation (a friend lost his testicle to cancer after straddling a radioactive pipe doing maintenance in the Reactor Compartment)
-belonging to the government -> and acting as an instrument of the unholy whims of megalomaniacal politicians
-the satisfaction that comes with knowing you directly contribute to bombing of innocent brown people & their beautiful ancient cities
-hearing about all your old friends commiting suicide
and best of all
-having your face in the background at the "Mission Accomplished" speech
(no joke, watch the tape and look for a guy in a yellow jersey on a riser during the applause breaks)
And there's so much MORE!
For an experience you'll regret for the rest of your life, talk to your recruiter today!
corpusjuris
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:41 am
Don't you ever lie to meJoined: 12 May 2008Posts: 1059Location: Boat on a hill
key lime wrote:
Matthew wrote:
We're hiring too, but you need a B.S. in an engineering discipline or hard physics, your NRC senior reactor operator licence and a Q clearance.
So if you want the job, you've never been safe, unless by safe you mean design margins >1.
Plus side, there's a 35K signing bonus with 12K loyalty bonuses every year after- but they'll extract it one nickel at a time in uncomfortable ways.
I've worked with "his people"
I turned down the $60K (I hear it's up to $100K nowadays) bonus for a two year contract
perks include:
-food poisoning
-getting sprayed with shit water by toilets
-fake healthcare, "take some motrin and stuff it" style
-no privacy
-soul crushing boredom in a completely unstimulating environment
-no sex for 10months at a time (sometimes longer)
-being surrounded by 5000 of the nastiest trailer trash you've ever met in a floating prison - and having to obey some of them! No joke, your peers will be people who don't know well enough to wash their hands between shitting and serving you food (see perk #1)
-ionizing radiation (a friend lost his testicle to cancer after straddling a radioactive pipe doing maintenance in the Reactor Compartment)
-belonging to the government -> and acting as an instrument of the unholy whims of megalomaniacal politicians
-the satisfaction that comes with knowing you directly contribute to bombing of innocent brown people & their beautiful ancient cities
-hearing about all your old friends commiting suicide
and best of all
-having your face in the background at the "Mission Accomplished" speech
(no joke, watch the tape and look for a guy in a yellow jersey on a riser during the applause breaks)
And there's so much MORE!
For an experience you'll regret for the rest of your life, talk to your recruiter today!
... when I pick up that tshirt tomorrow, can I give you a hug?
_________________ "Are those guys hitting each other? Should someone be doing something about this?" "No, they're just playing this game that they play, and they'll wear themselves out in a minute or two."
key lime
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:04 am
it never happenedJoined: 13 Mar 2008Posts: 1142Location: Wallenfjord
corpusjuris wrote:
... when I pick up that tshirt tomorrow, can I give you a hug?
fag
corpusjuris
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:56 pm
Don't you ever lie to meJoined: 12 May 2008Posts: 1059Location: Boat on a hill
key lime wrote:
fag
Don't ask, don't tell.
_________________ "Are those guys hitting each other? Should someone be doing something about this?" "No, they're just playing this game that they play, and they'll wear themselves out in a minute or two."
I've worked with "his people"
I turned down the $60K (I hear it's up to $100K nowadays) bonus for a two year contract
See, there's your problem... you worked on a Carrier. Bad choice #1. Bad choice #2: you did it for the enlisted Navy. I can honestly say as a member of the DOE line locker (instead of NAVSEA enlisted technician) I've never been sprayed by toilet backflow, performed maintenance in a reactor compartment (although I've written the procedures for it), or been given food poisoning by a "culinary specialist" (or whatever the surface fleet's calling them nowadays). I've never been on a ship that's fired a weapon, let alone at someone.
Besides, if all that stuff keylime described to you actually appeals to you, you don't need any of the qualifications. NAVSEA will take pretty much anyone to be an operator (as opposed to engineering design or analysis), as long as they're a U.S. citizen... which is actually pretty terrifying now that I think about it.
I'm not going to say my job is cushy, but the surface enlisted got it way worse.
Quote:
-ionizing radiation (a friend lost his testicle to cancer after straddling a radioactive pipe doing maintenance in the Reactor Compartment)
This I would debate though... but I've got to look up the declassification guidance to see if I can post the experiment's conclusions.
You're still better off taking Joby's job offer though. Except for the espresso and cheese part. That stuff'll kill you over time.
key lime
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:43 pm
it never happenedJoined: 13 Mar 2008Posts: 1142Location: Wallenfjord
Thanks Matthew, it's been at least four and a half years since any jackass officer was dumb enough to try to tell me what I was doing wrong. 'Course back then I could've gotten in trouble for holding them down and farting on their head.
....maybe I'll wait 'til we're all on a beach so you can eat sand too
Thanks Matthew, it's been at least four and a half years since any jackass officer was dumb enough to try to tell me what I was doing wrong.
Oh, you're one of those sailors. The "got a chip on my shoulder over the khakis" type. At this point, I know nothing I'd say will make you think differently, but here goes:
I'm sorry your friend got cancer. I really truly am. I'm glad he survived. I hope he doesn't get a reoccuring case.
<Engineer>
But to say he got it from sitting just once on an insulated, hardened cooling pipe for maintenance is dubious. Cancer is stochastic, and usually delayed in onset so it's almost impossible to cite a single exposure as its source -as your story suggests. (Especially when cancer is compared to non-stochastic effects of exposure like radiation burns or vomiting).
The accepted CDC studies estimate that approximately 1 rem of exposure increases incidence rates by a factor of 1.0005. Since approximately 1 in 5 people get cancer nowadays, exposure to 1 rem (from a single exposure, mind you, which was twice your friend's legal limit as a radiation worker) increased his odds from 1 in 5 to 1.0005 in 5. Like I said, it's not possible to say it was just his job that caused the cancer. Ionizing radiation isn't good for you in any amount. But in some amount that varies from person to person, it's not going to hurt you either. And if you want to eliminate your exposure, you can't smoke, eat bananas, have kitchen tiling, fly in airplanes, live near high tension lines, use a cell phone, get a tan, swim in the ocean or have dental x-rays... or work near nuclear reactors. The world is inherently dangerous.
</engineer>
But you've called my bluff. I don't know shiite about health physics, finite design analysis or reactor operations. And I'll never correct you again under threat of force.
Of course, if your little backlash is because you think I'm one of those "lifers" telling you did the wrong thing by getting out, you're mistaken.
I'd appreciate it if you'd drop a note to the detailers at Pers-42. They're about to extend me into a department head tour. Be quick, they're about to volun-told me for a billet as a prototype shift engineer, and then who knows how many blueshirts I might end up misleading?
Quote:
'Course back then I could've gotten in trouble for holding them down and farting on their head.
....maybe I'll wait 'til we're all on a beach so you can eat sand too
This should be rich. You got further gripes, message me so the people don't have to read it.
rob
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:45 pm
Joined: 28 Jul 2007Posts: 1315Location: Columbia City
Matthew wrote:
...Q clearance.
So if you want the job, you've never been safe, unless by safe you mean design margins >1.
you can still get a Q clearance if you've been safe. you just can't be getting all safe now.
ali
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:07 pm
Joined: 18 Sep 2008Posts: 82Location: san francisco/berkeley ca
Matthew wrote:
You got further gripes, message me so the people don't have to read it.
I for one would be interested in hearing more gripes on the forum.
fatasian
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:47 pm
dick wang's fatherJoined: 26 Aug 2008Posts: 1707Location: devenshire
seconded. all your gripes are belong to us.
corpusjuris
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:51 pm
Don't you ever lie to meJoined: 12 May 2008Posts: 1059Location: Boat on a hill
Thirded. Best thread this week easy.
_________________ "Are those guys hitting each other? Should someone be doing something about this?" "No, they're just playing this game that they play, and they'll wear themselves out in a minute or two."
key lime
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:58 am
it never happenedJoined: 13 Mar 2008Posts: 1142Location: Wallenfjord
Matthew wrote:
Oh, you're one of those sailors. The "got a chip on my shoulder over the khakis" type. At this point, I know nothing I'd say will make you think differently, but here goes:
No, I'm the blueshirt that was always throwing a Reactor Plant Manual in the face of junior officers every time they wanted to do something stupid/wrong/dangerous. I know you're used to twinky little submarines, but the aircraft carrier plants were large and complex enough that Reactor Department had senior enlisted specialists who would be called in to supervise the actions of the RO whenever any complicated operation was necessary or any casualties went down. The point was that the Watch Supervisor (senior enlisted) was roaming the plant making sure the watchstanders were turning the right valves and throwing the right switches. The Reactor Technician (me) was in the control room, steering the RO and keeping an eye on (they called it advising) the junior, inexperienced Watch Officer. They used to call me in specifically when they couldn't convince a watch officer that he was doing something wrong/dangerous - because I was especially good at dressing down pompous young officers with a chip on THIER shoulder.
Matthew wrote:
The Navy party line on exposure to radiation. Trying to ride a high horse as an "engineer"
Look, I drank the Kool Aid too when I was in service. Aren't those studies 50yrs old? Don't you think the CDC might have been under some Cold-War-Era pressure from the military to skew the results to increase the acceptable radiation limits? Don't you think that maybe TLD's aren't that great at measuring a whole body dose?
I got a randomized control experiment for you. Lets say you know 500 people in Reactor Department. Lets say one of them is a man you work with who volunteers to do work over a pipe that's so radioactive (Cobalt 60 - high energy gamma radiation doesn't get stopped by a cm of carbon steel or lagging) that you have to give an extra-special briefing for his maintenance so that he'll stay in the work area as short a time as possible - with his nuts swinging over said pipe. You and him and all your other friends who are spending lots of time in the RC get special permission to have your exposure limits extended. Said dude gets cancer of the nuts, not one other person you know in the entire department gets cancer of the nuts. Sounds like some pretty fucking clear correlation to me.
And while we're talking about professional knowledge backing up our claims, I happen to have a BS in Biochemistry (3.8, honors, UW). If you'd like me to look up the energy in a single photon of gamma radiation emitted by Co60, and compare it to the energy required to break the bonds present in DNA I could do so, but let me tell you it's going to go like this
REALLY BIG vs really small.
Your body has numerous systems in place to repair DNA damage - it's the only reason any species can survive. But guess what, some times your body gets so much radiation it can't repair the DNA fast enough. Additionally, radiation damages the enzymes that repair DNA at the same rate that it damages DNA - and it also damages the DNA that codes for the repair system! Ever had a sunburn? That's when your cells DIE from too much radiation damage to DNA and the protection systems. Now, sunlight gets stopped by the skin, that's why we have skin, to protect our valuable innards. Skin dies and sloughs off and we don't miss it. Skin cannot stop the kind of gammas that come out of Co60 - that's why it's scary as fuck. Now what if you've got a population of rapidly deviding cells next to a source of intense high-energy gamma radiation, you're going to end up with lots of little cuts in DNA and lots of damaged repair enzymes. Any damage that occurs is much more likely to be carried on in said population of rapidly deviding cells. Said population of damaged cells, rapidly deviding, are much less likely to be able to repair subsequent (stochastic, constant) damage. That's how cancer happens. Statistically, there is a pretty reasonable chance in said situation that at least one cell will develop enough damage to develop cancer. I can tell you a lot more about the specifics of this subject if you'd like to know. As a Biochemist and Biophysicist, at this point I'm absolutley convinced that my friend got testicular cancer from this ONE dose of very high intensity ionizing radiation.
Matthew wrote:
They're about to extend me into a department head tour.
Fuck yeah dude. Sounds like you're about to get what we used to call "the good deal" Sucks you won't be around riding bikes here anymore but at least you've got a shore billet. Ballston Spa or Charlestown? Are you pissed 'cause you'd rather work Powerschool?
Matthew wrote:
This should be rich. You got further gripes, message me so the people don't have to read it.
Look, I'm not really threatening to kick your ass. I'm just urging you not to be an annoying little twat. I understand that it's your schtick on the forum, but you might consider toning it down once in a while.
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Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!
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lantius
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:09 am
1337Joined: 22 Jul 2005Posts: 6705Location: right over
it's like watch the pot and the kettle have an all-out brawl.
mcrawfor
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:13 am
Joined: 09 May 2006Posts: 1039Location: Ballard
May I say "Oh snap?"
key lime wrote:
I'm just trying to tell you not to be an annoying little twat. I understand that it's your schtick on the forum, but you might consider toning it down once in a while.
Oh, snap!
_________________ -miles
derrickito
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:40 am
now with 50 percent more EVILJoined: 22 Jul 2005Posts: 10566
im wondering which one of you will be the top in your love/snuggle fest?
the dreaded ben
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:50 am
Grumpy GreebJoined: 20 Aug 2005Posts: 5329Location: flavor country
derrickito wrote:
im wondering which one of you will be the top in your love/snuggle fest?
christ, it better not happen at my house.
joby
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:25 pm
goes to elevenJoined: 25 Jul 2005Posts: 3899Location: The Cloud
Well shit. Best job posting ever. Monster.com doesn't hold a candle to point83. Thanks everyone.
Spealunker
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:36 pm
sargeJoined: 08 Sep 2005Posts: 308Location: Fort Bragg NC
All this squid talk makes SGT Sean glad he does PSYOP from behind a desk while drinking coke....
joby
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:09 pm
goes to elevenJoined: 25 Jul 2005Posts: 3899Location: The Cloud
Well hey, it worked.
I have one .83'r sitting a few feet from me, and another in the pipeline.
We're hurting for one more spot though:
"Software Design Engineer in Test".
If you know someone who has real QA experience *AND* can program in C/C++ or Java, I'll kiss you full on the lips.
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