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Chase
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:06 pm Reply with quote
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I don't know if many people have seen or heard about the idea of an indoor velodrome in Seattle. But if Boulder can build one, why can't we? Let's get behind this.

http://www.seattlevelodrome.org/

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In these bad times....
Stimulus time!
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AndrewW
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I'm having visions of a mixed-use facility... You know who else uses a banked oval track?


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rubenortega
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:27 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks for the reference. After noticing the traffic come in from point 83 I updated the website to take your input, suggestions on how to get this project moving forward.

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tehschkott
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:26 am Reply with quote
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So lemme get this straight. You ride around in circles. And that's it?

Is there a bar? Can we start a fire?

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mike.hahn
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:43 am Reply with quote
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I actually think you're hitting on something there.

Beer garden = must-have in the infield, in the middle of the dirt jump track. Firepit = awesome outside, on the smoking deck.

This thing will fall flat if it tries to be an indoor version of Marymoor.
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Eric_s
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:55 am Reply with quote
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tehschkott wrote:
So lemme get this straight. You ride around in circles. And that's it?

Is there a bar? Can we start a fire?


I do have to say that velodrome racing is a very spectator friendly version of bike racing: A lot of the races are over very quickly, match sprinting is a head to head duel, and even the endurance events are designed to keep the action going. It's a little different than road racing or even cross, which are pretty boring to watch on the whole.

That said, I've never been to marymoor so I don't know if it's boring. Alpenrose velodrome is pretty exciting, and about the only way it could get better is if they allowed alcohol and betting. So, I hope that the seattle indoor velodrome ends up a high banked, short track, with beer. Betting is probably a step too far, but no one said you can't make wagers with your friends...

Bottom line: While the bikes are similar, Velodrome racing is no fixed gear freestyling, and that's a good thing.
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AndrewW
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:14 pm Reply with quote
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If we got this thing...

I know what I'd want for Christmas. And it wouldn't have brakes or gears.

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Chip McShoulder
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AndrewW wrote:
If we got this thing...

I know what I'd want for Christmas. And it wouldn't have brakes or gears.


A pony?

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tehschkott
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:44 pm Reply with quote
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2 front teeth?

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lantius
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:57 pm Reply with quote
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a roadmaster bicycle?



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Padraic
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:40 pm Reply with quote
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mike.hahn wrote:
I actually think you're hitting on something there.

Beer garden = must-have in the infield, in the middle of the dirt jump track. Firepit = awesome outside, on the smoking deck.

This thing will fall flat if it tries to be an indoor version of Marymoor.


Marymoor has a permanent beer garden for all of the Friday night races. It just sucks that it's in Redmond. I'm all about a smoky indoor track on this side of the water with Chinese gambling, drugs and prostitues. Make it happen, people!
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bunny
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Chip McShoulder wrote:
AndrewW wrote:
If we got this thing...

I know what I'd want for Christmas. And it wouldn't have brakes or gears.


A pony?



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tehschkott
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:44 pm Reply with quote
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lantius wrote:
a roadmaster bicycle?



cutters!


Is there irony bearing the name roadmaster when it's only qualified to ride on a track and not - as it's name might imply - the actual road?

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Chip McShoulder
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:01 pm Reply with quote
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bunny wrote:

You can't have a pony.


You can't have an X-Box either.

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Matthew
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Not sure you'd want betting involved with this. Betting = gaming commission. Gaming commission = state regulation, and the costs of regulation get passed onto overhead- so riding is more expensive.
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sekai
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:54 pm Reply with quote
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Short, high banked means you need less square footage, which cost less.
Mabye recreate the figure 8?
http://www.consolati.com/hpr/pan97.jpg

I thought the figure 8 was made for a messenger world championship, last I heard it was in storage on the east coast.
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lantius
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:07 pm Reply with quote
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Matthew wrote:
Not sure you'd want betting involved with this. Betting = gaming commission. Gaming commission = state regulation, and the costs of regulation get passed onto overhead- so riding is more expensive.

we can let derrick deal with the gaming commission. he's got them all figured out now.
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Matthew
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:33 pm Reply with quote
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There's only so much oval I can take. I think Marymoor pretty much meets that RDA for me. Now, a figure 8 is intriguing. Especially if there's no fly-over in the middle!
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Matthew
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That was a great game. Needs to happen on bikes, though.
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... devo ray... is that you?

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twowheelwiz
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:14 am Reply with quote
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Roller racing. Imagine the racing IN THE BEER GARDEN, not the beer garden in the infield. Beer sprints, anyone?
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twowheelwiz wrote:
Roller racing. Imagine the racing IN THE BEER GARDEN, not the beer garden in the infield. Beer sprints, anyone?


/sigh

biscuit please.

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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:57 pm Reply with quote
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tehschkott wrote:
biscuit please.

Free pancakes?

I can, uh, whip you up a batch of your favorite homestyle gravy. If you'd like.

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twowheelwiz
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:25 pm Reply with quote
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tehschkott wrote:
twowheelwiz wrote:
Roller racing. Imagine the racing IN THE BEER GARDEN, not the beer garden in the infield. Beer sprints, anyone?


/sigh

biscuit please.


I CHALLENGE tehschkott to Beer Sprints. Bring it.
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tehschkott
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:27 pm Reply with quote
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Fuck it. Lets roll.

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derrickito
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:29 pm Reply with quote
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id like to bet about 4 trillion dollars on ryan for winning that sprint.
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the dreaded ben
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i'd invest social security in it if i could.
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tehschkott
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:31 pm Reply with quote
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Hey just because I'm fat and slow.

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derrickito
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:37 pm Reply with quote
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ill race you scott. we can see who can do the 400m quickest while cramming as many donuts as possible into our pie holes.
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tehschkott
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:38 pm Reply with quote
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This will all end in tears. I can see it now.

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derrickito wrote:
id like to bet about 4 trillion dollars on ryan for winning that sprint.

I'm assuming by Ryan you don't mean me, but if beer sprints are involved, I'm in. And I will crush you all.

Proposed format:
Riders each receive 1 (one) full pitcher of beer of their choice. A group of arbitrary judges/timekeepers will oversee the competition, one for each competitor. Upon the start of the sprint, riders will begin drinking said pitchers of beer (any sort of drinking aid, such as straws or beer bongs will not be allowed) while judges/timekeepers record amount of time taken to dispose of said pitchers of beer. Time penalties will be assessed for beer spilt. The winner will be decided by the lowest combined time for sprint and beer consumption, minus penalty spill points. The entire pitcher must be consumed before the 400 meter sprint is finished. If a competitor finishes the 400 meter sprint, yet still has beer in his/her pitcher the sprint clock continues to run until all beer is consumed.

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tehschkott
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:52 pm Reply with quote
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see other thread.

Ryan W = no

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I did a race that sandwiched bike sprints between chuggathons back before i knew this group. It was fun. It's hard to chug a beer when you've been sprinting balls to the wall.

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