What do you think of the manual? Will it help people build/ride or will it just lead to a bunch of fools breaking their necks? Or maybe people will just read it, say "crazy" and trash it.
What is Puma's motivation? Do they sell bike apparal? I can't get their website to load.
Wow. They got us to look at their website. Good one.
dennyt
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:51 am
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They sponsor a team of messengers from NYC to travel around and compete in alleycat races, or so I've heard. That pdf was written by members of the team.
As for what it means, I don't know.
gr8noise
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:02 am
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It looks to me like Cannondale is making a track bike again and this is a contest to win one. It's an ad campaign for the new bike and Puma. I wonder if I send in my Cannondale track bike photo if I'll win the new one....
But whatever.
Does fixies getting popular make people happy or mad? It's kind of like your favorite indy band getting a major contract and all the kids dig them now......
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futurenorth
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:05 am
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It's marketing and advertising. They wouldn't be in on it if they weren't making any money off of it. As far as the messengers they sponsor, I'd imagine they're getting health insurance from Puma so maybe it's not that bad.
Even though the booklet was written by the messengers themselves, it's totally retarded. Putting it in a magazine like Vice is even more retarded. Take a look at the page with the tattooed hands. They say brakes suck and the bike has a brake. Wtf.
The best thing about all of this is that when the fad starts to fade, there will be some hot bikes and parts showing up on Craigslist. So come on hipsters! Build a bike! Get tired of it! Give it to me!
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gr8noise
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:13 am
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futurenorth wrote:
The best thing about all of this is that when the fad starts to fade, there will be some hot bikes and parts showing up on Craigslist. So come on hipsters! Build a bike! Get tired of it! Give it to me!
Word.
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megafauna
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:14 am
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Hope it works out for you. A couple years ago, when the movie O Brother Where Art Thou came out, I thought I was due for some good used banjos. It hasn't panned out yet.
I think the banjo trend didn't jump off because banjo picking requires effort and practice. The same thing will probably keep all the fixed gear bikes at Urban Outfitters from selling. They aren't there yet but I expect it.
sekai
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:57 am
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futurenorth wrote:
The best thing about all of this is that when the fad starts to fade, there will be some hot bikes and parts showing up on Craigslist. So come on hipsters! Build a bike! Get tired of it! Give it to me!
ya, but the hipsters only rock chrome pista's
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Old Crow
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:56 pm
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I saw that booklet today and I wasn't too impressed. I'm not real keen on everyone conforming to any certain aesthetic/credo/gear system/whatever. That booklet just seemed like a "here's how to be cool" manual for people too impressionable to make up their own minds about shit.
I've talked to others about this before. There's a certain level of snobbery going on with the fixie thing and it's just a little pathetic. That's usually the minority so I haven't let it bother me, but it is there. Bikes are bikes and one solution doesn't fit everybody. What's important is that you're out there riding and not acting like every other asshole in a car.
Kori
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:22 pm
Joined: 25 Jul 2005Posts: 373Location: Bremerton
Old Crow wrote:
I saw that booklet today and I wasn't too impressed. I'm not real keen on everyone conforming to any certain aesthetic/credo/gear system/whatever. That booklet just seemed like a "here's how to be cool" manual for people too impressionable to make up their own minds about shit.
I've talked to others about this before. There's a certain level of snobbery going on with the fixie thing and it's just a little pathetic. That's usually the minority so I haven't let it bother me, but it is there. Bikes are bikes and one solution doesn't fit everybody. What's important is that you're out there riding and not acting like every other asshole in a car.
i agree. at least they are riding a bike. i'm glad biking is cool. i hope it gets so cool that EVERYONE wants to do it.
it's silly that sweat-shop labor company is promoting consumerism of bikes. as far as i am concerned if they want to send the message that bikes are fucking awesome.. rock (doesn't mean i'll buy their clothes)! i'll be thankful for less people in cars yelling and honking and being generally pissed off, less smog, and LESS FUCKING ACCIDENTS. people riding hummer brand bikes is way better than people driving hummers.
to me it seems just like cars with fewers options. ie: in driving land it is "trendy" to have a vw, audi, honda, etc. as a scenster. and basically, as long as it's fixed it's trendy. plus trendy here isn't trendy everywhere. in santa cruz a lot of people ride cruiser bikes because it is trendy (and practical for sand) and look at me on my road bike without spandex like i am the one smoking the wacky-tabaccy. i guess it depends on where you live since i doubt the vice instert will convert any of those folks.
let's all remember, few of us actually race fixed gear/track bikes and many of us have them. none of us were born on a fixed gear bike, we all heard of them, thought they were cool and/or fun (however practical or not), and learned to ride one.
we have history to show that cool and fun things never stay secret. i remeber being 18 and hearing people complain about burning man being on mtv. and more recently, the influx of us people joining .83. embrace new people and share the love (omg. someone put e in my tea!!!)
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kori who doesn't own a fixed gear bike because coasting is AWESOME!!!!
Aaron
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:13 pm
Joined: 25 Jul 2005Posts: 4645
Yeah, but my bike is blue.
Only cool people ride blue bikes.
That is me on Denny's bike. But I didn't go down on it (her). I leave that to Denny.
Oh, and crashing is cool. Wait, No it is not!
Point (83) is to just have fun and ride!
Aaron
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:41 pm
Joined: 25 Jul 2005Posts: 4645
Stupid Cannondale!
They have some very poor communication. Like when they dropped Greggs for SuperGo and then dropped SuperGo for Ti Cycles. Not that I have any say in their business practices but it would be nice to know where I could send customers to actually see Cannondale bikes in person since we are a Special Order only shop. You would think with all the emails I get from my Cannondale rep that I would have known about this Puma/Cannondale promotion. Perhaps they would have sent me out some copies of the booklet. It has a 'zine feel to it.
Also Cannondale used to make track bikes in the early-mid 1990s. Then they stopped. Now that fixies are cool again, they are just hopping back on board the bandwagon. But, hey, at least they are American made!
And WTF is up with this chick? I don't remember seeing many girls like this. Well maybe April, but she rides a geared bike and is way cooler!
It is refreshing to see corporate companies promoting bikes as a lifestyle. Even if they are only trying to make a buck. Cannondale is owned by investors so if there ain't money to be made, they won't do it.
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Kori wrote:
LESS FUCKING ACCIDENTS.
Word to that!
um
I like bicycles.
Torch
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:19 am
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i haven't seen the print version (just the pdf), but i gotta say that i really like the way it's laid out. the text very much has a "we're trying awfully hard to sound badass" feel to it, though. anyone have a copy of the print version? i wouldn't mind getting my hands on it.
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megafauna
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:45 am
Joined: 06 Oct 2005Posts: 250Location: first hill
ya. i got it. anyone else can get one by going to Sonic Boom and pulling it out of a copy of Vice.
It does have a nice feel/appearance.
lieutenantsean
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:58 pm
Joined: 10 Oct 2005Posts: 1255
Sorry to piss in their wheaties like this, but they (the people who read magazines to be cool) are looking in the wrong place.
I am the vanguard of cool. I have proof.
1) I started cycling when it wasn't cool. In the town I grew up in, there were three cyclists: me, aaron and another cat. We raced and did all manner of weird things. We were looked down upon as geeks, mutants (both probably true) and possibly gay.
2) Bought a mountain bike a few years later. Again, everyone followed my lead and started riding one (although I was derided by my fellow cyclists as a geek.) I gave that nonsense up after a crash that required surgery to fix my left leg.
3) Started climbing in the early '90s. Now everyone and their dog does it.
4) Gave up on most commercial saddles after three painful days on a bike tour with a gel saddle and tracked down my first Brooks saddle. I didn't actually make Brook's saddles cool, but I was instrumental in bringing them back into the limelight.
Look at my bike and mark well the next phase of cool...
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futurenorth
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:01 pm
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Quote:
Sorry to piss in their wheaties like this, but they (the people who read magazines to be cool) are looking in the wrong place.
I am the vanguard of cool. I have proof.
1) I started cycling when it wasn't cool. In the town I grew up in, there were three cyclists: me, aaron and another cat. We raced and did all manner of weird things. We were looked down upon as geeks, mutants (both probably true) and possibly gay.
2) Bought a mountain bike a few years later. Again, everyone followed my lead and started riding one (although I was derided by my fellow cyclists as a geek.) I gave that nonsense up after a crash that required surgery to fix my left leg.
3) Started climbing in the early '90s. Now everyone and their dog does it.
4) Gave up on most commercial saddles after three painful days on a bike tour with a gel saddle and tracked down my first Brooks saddle. I didn't actually make Brook's saddles cool, but I was instrumental in bringing them back into the limelight.
Look at my bike and mark well the next phase of cool...
Is this meant to be a joke?
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lieutenantsean
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:04 pm
Joined: 10 Oct 2005Posts: 1255
Makes as much sense as anything else.
but yes, it is.
Still, my bike is really damn cool.
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