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GingerMac
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 7:46 am Reply with quote
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Thursday, May 21, 2009 (TODAY)
12:00pm - 1:00pm
Outside the Bell Harbor Conference Center
Pier 66

http://www.1skywashington.org/events/epa-climate-rally

ROBERT F KENNEDY SAID SO

If you're unemployed, underemployed, flexibly employed, or you work downtown and can go to lunch between 12 and 1 this afternoon, you should go to this rally.
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tehschkott
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I can't hear you over the sound of my car. It runs on Styrofoam.

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langston
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 8:49 am Reply with quote
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the best thing for the Climate would be for that pier full of people to fall into Puget Sound.

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derrickito
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 8:50 am Reply with quote
now with 50 percent more EVIL Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 10566

how does going outside with several thousand people cheering and yelling for an hour change anything?
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MyNameIsJeff
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 9:17 am Reply with quote
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They will all be at lunch, and eating. Their chants will be muffled by Starbucks and Specialties sandwiches!!
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the dreaded ben
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 12:39 pm Reply with quote
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wait, there's a problem with the climate?
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corpusjuris
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 1:50 pm Reply with quote
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God I love you people.

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GingerMac
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 9:27 pm Reply with quote
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oops. I forgot that this is the sarcasm club and let my enthusiasm run rampant. My bad.
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Eric_s
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 10:03 pm Reply with quote
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GingerMac wrote:
oops. I forgot that this is the sarcasm club and let my enthusiasm run rampant. My bad.


aww now, it's the same thing which happens with bike advo-cat-sy, don't take it all personal.

Also, rallies are stupid if they don't involve beer.
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derrickito
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 10:44 pm Reply with quote
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it doesn't seem to be about sarcasm, it just seems that showing up at your lunch hour to hip hip hooray doesn't really do anything. recycling, eating local, biking, high mileage cars, burning your neighbors for heat, eating local pets for sustenance... those things have "here and now" results, but that gathering just seemed like it was a bunch of people yanking someone's schlong although no one seemed to know whos.
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GingerMac
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 10:56 pm Reply with quote
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Eric_s wrote:
GingerMac wrote:
oops. I forgot that this is the sarcasm club and let my enthusiasm run rampant. My bad.


aww now, it's the same thing which happens with bike advo-cat-sy, don't take it all personal.

Also, rallies are stupid if they don't involve beer.
Naw, I don't mind. I bounce back and forth between cynicism and enthusiasm.

Actually, Derek may have a point. Maybe we can start a spin-off club for drinking beer and hunting small, fat dogs. Bonus point for guinea pigs. Then we can roast the kill on urban fire pits. I can see the future now, and it will be glorious.
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corpusjuris
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 3:28 am Reply with quote
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[quote="derrickito"]it doesn't seem to be about sarcasm, it just seems that showing up at your lunch hour to hip hip hooray doesn't really do anything. recycling, eating local, biking, high mileage cars, burning your neighbors for heat, eating local pets for sustenance... those things have "here and now" results, but that gathering just seemed like it was a bunch of people yanking someone's schlong although no one seemed to know whos.[/
quote]

The great thing about "our" generation is that pragmatism matters. Ginger, if you want us to come to events, tell what difference it'll make. Have a case, an argument. This rally actually WAS important: the federal EPA was having two public hearings about whether raw CO2 should be considered a pollutant - one in DC, one here. The rally mattered because it focused more energy on a day of testimony average citizens were having at the federal building. I wished I could be involved, but had local shit to deal with. If you want people, especially the (rightly) cynical, to be involved, be able to articulate a visision and purpose for sacrificing a lunch or afternoon. Time isn't free, but we all have things we value and will fight for. Simply saying "this faceless rally is important" is not going to win people over: it's not 1969. Tactics vs Strategy. CO2 is a pollutant. It impacts us all. Going to this rally show(ed) this issue is important. Next time, don't give people a chance to be cynical.

/soapbox

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GingerMac
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 8:13 am Reply with quote
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GingerMac wrote:
I rather thought this explained it all.
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I can't believe he/they tacked a joke on about a "green" luxury sports car. Talk about shooting your own ethos in the foot.

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