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sorahn
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:54 pm Reply with quote
i'll eat your pussy like alf (11yo) Joined: 15 Oct 2009 Posts: 464 Location: Beacon Hill

Emails came around from my old bosses at MS about people doing Chilly Hilly, but I'm planning on riding under a pirate flag instead. I'm planning on riding in the FHR this year (2010) and I'm looking for some good routes to go on that would help get in a little better shape for the hills.

I've already done a good job shedding some poundage riding with you guys since september, but I still need to work harder to have a chance of finishing the FHR.

Any tips, and/or maybe some folks who'd like to go on some off-day rides would be awesome.

Thanks.

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greg tellvik
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:55 pm Reply with quote
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I'll go on some rides with you. Just let me know, Prolly get bryan to join us too.
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btm
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:11 am Reply with quote
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sorahn wrote:
I'm looking for some good routes to go on that would help get in a little better shape for the hills.


Let me tell you, this deck hand fella on the Vashon ferry told us this weekend that the hill out of the ferry is like this --> |

greg tellvik wrote:
Prolly get bryan to join us too.


Me too.

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sorahn
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:14 am Reply with quote
i'll eat your pussy like alf (11yo) Joined: 15 Oct 2009 Posts: 464 Location: Beacon Hill

btm wrote:
Let me tell you, this deck hand fella on the Vashon ferry told us this weekend that the hill out of the ferry is like this --> |


That hill WAS like that... At least for the first 100ft. Then it leveled out a bit, to more of a --> /.

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ripper
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:31 am Reply with quote
evilmike Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 640 Location: Capitalist Hill

If you plan on riding to win the FHR, don't bother. Our sandbaggers (bless 'em) will beat you. The good news: everyone typically gets a prize or two. I usually finish towards the end, and I've always gotten two prizes.

Otherwise, riding to complete is easier than you might think. Simply riding a little every day is typically enough to finish the ride without much trouble.

If you plan on riding fixed, reconsider. Your ascents will be hard and your descents will be hazardous. Single is awesome I hear though.

That said, I love riding bikes and would be interested in riding more starting in January.

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AndrewW
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:36 am Reply with quote
Tobias Joined: 04 Sep 2008 Posts: 251 Location: Greenlake

Seattle's a kickass city for training on hills. Kind of a pain for anything else...

If I'm in a self-torture mood (pretty often) I've got a couple hill routes. A good one to start on, if you're comfortable riding in traffic, is from Ballard to the Burke near Matthews beach. Start at NW Market and 24th Ave. NW. Ride north on 24th to NW 80th St. Ride east to Roosevelt, ride south to 65th, ride east over a couple big hills, then keep an eye open for the "don't hit pedestrians" sign marking the Burke. And you're done.

I did this route a whole bunch about a year ago, when I was racing 'cross and training for it. I like the rhythm of the hills, but it totally blows if you do it when traffic is heavy - more of a midday or nighttime ride. I've tried it in the other direction and didn't like it as much.

Options include adding the climb up Golden Gardens Drive, which is pretty stiff, and bailing out at Roosevelt if you don't feel up to two more really big hills.

Another nice hill ride is doing laps around Magnolia. I think that clockwise it gives you longer, slightly gentler climbs and shorter, faster descents, while counterclockwise gives you shorter, sharper climbs and a long, mellow descent. Riding through Discovery Park is nice, and there's a brutal climb from the lighthouse if you feel the need to do it. I don't remember anything on Bainbridge being steeper than that, although there were some comparable climbs.

You can easily combine those rides if you do the Magnolia route and then cross at the Ballard Locks (or Ballard Bridge, but that sucks) and do the North Seattle route.

If you want to make one really big loop, you can cross the Montlake bridge, follow the Lake Washington loop, and then follow Yesler to Alaskan Way, which then links up with the Myrtle-Edwards Trail and Magnolia. You can also cross the U Bridge, climb either Harvard Ave. or the Bum Trail and then go south either on the Bum Trail, Broadway or 12th until you hit any of the roads crossing I-5, and then ride to Alaskan Way.

Laps around Mercer Island are also good, and usually relatively continous (but stop at stop signs - word is they'll ticket you.) There are cuesheets out there detailing versions of the Mercer Island loop that add some stiffer climbs if you want them.

I'm kind of a dirt squid, and this is my base building period (every ride is a training ride and I'm not allowed to enjoy any of them. Oh noes) so I'm happy to ride with pretty much anyone who wants to do a continuous ride, on- or off-road. I'm also trying to do some Sunday rides between now and mid-February when mountain bike racing starts up again. For now, at least, those are all pretty flat and mellow by my standard. If you're not used to riding continuously for two hours, they could be quite a workout, though, and unless you're planning to do the Chilly Hilly at race pace, a lot of miles would go a long way toward preparing you to have a good time and not puke at the tops of things. PM me if you like and I'll add on Facebook, which is how I'm organizing these.

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derrickito
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:14 am Reply with quote
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if you can pull off a 40 mile ride without dying you'll be fine for the FHR. just dress appropriately for whatever weather or cold there is, and pace yourself. it's a fun ride.

we'll be giving it our best effort again to wrangle in enough prizes that everyone goes home with something, plus a full belly of beer and chili.

and to get the ball rolling early, if you're in a position that you know of anyone that might like to sponsor this (companies, shops, yourself, anything) get to talking to people, or put them in touch with me.
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MyNameIsJeff
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:19 am Reply with quote
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This time I'm cheating and skipping Baker Hill like every one else.
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derrickito
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:26 am Reply with quote
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that's fine, ill just spike the chili with epicac
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tehschkott
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:38 am Reply with quote
daywalker Joined: 09 Nov 2007 Posts: 6108 Location: Hatertown

MyNameIsJeff wrote:
This time I'm cheating and skipping Baker Hill like every one else.


Cheaters Race! I can so cheat better than you motherfucker.

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bott
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:52 am Reply with quote
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derrickito wrote:
that's fine, ill just spike the chili with epicac


epicac or "epic-ac"? (love word filters)

is that the X-treme mondo sports version of ipecac?
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ksep
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:52 am Reply with quote
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obviously shots out of a cut up beer can checkpoints need to be at the top of hills this year.

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tehschkott
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:54 am Reply with quote
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I'd volunteer to man a whiskey checkpoint.

HEAR THAT MOTHERFUCKERS? CHECK POINT.

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MyNameIsJeff
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:56 am Reply with quote
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tehschkott wrote:
I'd volunteer to man a whiskey checkpoint.

HEAR THAT MOTHERFUCKERS? CHECK POINT.


Let's man the checkpoint at the Baker Hill turn and Pirates who try to skip it have to drink Gasoline.
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bott
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:56 am Reply with quote
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tehschkott wrote:
CHECK POINT.


he's serous.

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derrickito
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:01 pm Reply with quote
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baker hill whiskey check in stop might be happening.

im also looking at possibly changing the location of the finish line to another park. just outside of town near the top of the last hill. more on this later. we had trouble with harbormaster and condos last year, might have outgrown that spot.
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tehschkott
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:02 pm Reply with quote
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FTFY

This is serious business!

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corpusjuris
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:14 pm Reply with quote
Don't you ever lie to me Joined: 12 May 2008 Posts: 1059 Location: Boat on a hill

tehschkott wrote:
FTFY

This is serious business!


Checkpoint2

FTFTFY

Two checkpoints on that border crossing, don't try to go all weasely and soft on me, fucker.

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key lime
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:19 pm Reply with quote
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ripper wrote:
If you plan on riding fixed, reconsider. Your ascents will be hard and your descents will be hazardous.


If I'm not injured this year I'm doing this fixed. Yes, last year I was out with bad knees from riding too much fixed. What's your point?

Also, if you're looking for a good training ride, there's always the Bainbridge Island loop. Or the Lake Washington Loop. Or the Lake Sammamish Loop.
If you really wanna lose weight, the best way to do it is to cowboy up and force yourself to do something that sounds impossible. The truth is you're more capable than you think. I think the best way to get stronger is to put yourself into situations where you realize at some point that you don't want to keep going because it's too hard, but you have to because there's no other way back. Anything hard at first gets easy with repeated attempts. Corporate slogans aside: just do it.
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:53 pm Reply with quote
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derrickito wrote:
that's fine, ill just spike the chili with epicac

I'm still making the chili this year, right?

I am planning on doing the whole ride too. Maybe with child in a bike seat.
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Eric_s
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:08 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 1691 Location: the dirty south

the PSU cycling club thinks I'm going on their training rides because I want to be ready for collegiate road racing season. I'm not racing collegiate road racing this year. I'm also not training for anything. I will be there for the FHR, and maybe, just maybe, i can flat stanglor's tire at the start.


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henry
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:48 pm Reply with quote
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key lime wrote:
I think the best way to get stronger is to put yourself into situations where you realize at some point that you don't want to keep going because it's too hard, but you have to because there's no other way back.


I decided to do the STP about three months after getting a bike.

I did it (two days) but couldn't feel my penis for about a week afterward. I did again a couple years later and couldn't believe that there was a time in my life when that seemed like such an impossible to achieve goal.

The penis part was the most important thing i had to say here.

PENIS.

NUMBNESS.

WEEK.

I could still get a boner though.

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henry
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:49 pm Reply with quote
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That's a retarded word filter (peenis -> love stick).

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the dreaded ben
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:21 pm Reply with quote
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SeditiousCanary wrote:
derrickito wrote:
that's fine, ill just spike the chili with epicac

I'm still making the chili this year, right?

I am planning on doing the whole ride too. Maybe with child in a bike seat.


do you have a rss feed setup for the word chili?
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Oldmesenger82
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:16 pm Reply with quote
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I do a loop East on NE 65 to the BG, north then up NE 70th to 25th NE, north past the school then up the hill to 35 then down some back streets to the BG then back west on NE 65 then home to Fremont. This is a nice quiet ride, make sure your brakes work. I use my commuter with disk brakes. Don't know milage or elevation.
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