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How about a right lane aligned streetcar track crossing from Boren Ave S. onto 12th Ave S. at a slight angle at the bottom of a hill. That is what our friends at SDOT have as the primary recommendation right now.
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I know it is the week before Christmas, but I haven't heard much from Cascade on this yet and it scares the shit of of me and this thing isn't just fast tracked with SDOT and Vulcan like the SLUT was, it is SDOT and Sound Transit with ST footing the bill.
langston
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:08 pm
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yikes. bike go boom
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lantius
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:07 am
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is there something in that document i'm not seeing? it looks like the proposal includes at minimum a 5' bike lane to the right of the trolley right of way.
also, what is that trail/path thing west along main? very interessssting.
corpusjuris
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:45 pm
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lantius wrote:
is there something in that document i'm not seeing? it looks like the proposal includes at minimum a 5' bike lane to the right of the trolley right of way.
Even with bike paths beside the trolley, bikes are still going to be forced to cross the tracks when the trolley's track turns?
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henry
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:52 pm
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I assume the outrage over this is because it's serving a poor are where lots of black people live, not wallingford?
Or was there something else i was missing.
Jeeze, what a bunch of racists. Now do you understand why i'm not comfortable riding w/ .83?
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henry wrote:
I assume the outrage over this is because it's serving a poor are where lots of black people live, not wallingford?
Or was there something else i was missing.
Jeeze, what a bunch of racists. Now do you understand why i'm not comfortable riding w/ .83?
I don't have any problem with it serving black people - my problem is that if it takes that route, it's also going to serve a lot of vietnamese.
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Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:22 pm
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On that note: I'm tired of all the poor blacks and whites in my neighborhood. They make me uncomfortable with all their sleeping in public and asking me for money/food.
They need to go up the street and wait for work trucks like those honest, hard-working mexicans. Take the bus, you're in the free-zone, and go tile a floor if you're so hungry.
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lantius
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:42 pm
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henry wrote:
I assume the outrage over this is because it's serving a poor are where lots of black people live, not wallingford?
Or was there something else i was missing.
Jeeze, what a bunch of racists. Now do you understand why i'm not comfortable riding w/ .83?
your sarcasm lapped itself there at the end, coming right back around to truth.
lantius
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:43 pm
1337Joined: 22 Jul 2005Posts: 6705Location: right over
corpusjuris wrote:
Even with bike paths beside the trolley, bikes are still going to be forced to cross the tracks when the trolley's track turns?
that's how tracks work. crossing a track at a ~90 degree angle isn't really a problem.
gsbarnes
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:43 pm
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henry wrote:
Now do you understand why i'm not comfortable riding w/ .83?
You should use more lube.
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snyd3282
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:18 pm
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corpusjuris wrote:
lantius wrote:
is there something in that document i'm not seeing? it looks like the proposal includes at minimum a 5' bike lane to the right of the trolley right of way.
Even with bike paths beside the trolley, bikes are still going to be forced to cross the tracks when the trolley's track turns?
Yes.
From the presentation at the last SBAB meeting, Boren is too narrow to have a bike lane plus streetcar, and yes, eventually bikes are forced to cross the tracks when the tracks turn or when the tracks enter the road that cyclists are using. It's rather hard to cross tracks at a 90 degree angle when the tracks are entering the road you are on at a 20 degree angle and you are doing 30mph because it is the bottom of a hill.
Of course, the pugsley would be fine. It is the rest of us with narrow tires who should worry.
Some of the alternate route proposals might not be too bad, but it needs cyclist input.
Eric_s
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:36 am
Joined: 07 Mar 2007Posts: 1691Location: the dirty south
or just a bike boulevard or something on an alternate street instead of on the main drag with all the seniors and crap driving on it.
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