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joeball
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 4:07 pm Reply with quote
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MEET FRIDAY, JUNE 25th AT 5:00 P.M. (boat sails at 5:30) AT COLEMAN DOCK FOR THE LARGE GROUP DEPARTURE.

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So the past two 4th of July holidays were observed on a Friday which provided a unique opportunity for the Thursday ride to be morphed into a camping trip which somehow changed from Green Mountain to Joeball Mountain. The idea was to also let you get back in town early enough to utilize the rest of your 3-day weekend. Anyway this year I've just decided to move Joeball Mountain a weekend earlier so go use your 3-day weekend (if you have one) to the fullest.

Exact date: Friday (6/25)
Destination: (same)Green Mountain
Route: NEW http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=3740442
What: Minimal bike camping at it's finest.


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TorreyK
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 6:57 pm Reply with quote
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IN. any date will do.

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fatasian
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 7:53 pm Reply with quote
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as soon as you have the date sorted let me know. sitters are hard to schedule overnight.
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vaticdart
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 10:13 pm Reply with quote
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Either date works fine for me.

I now own a touring bike, and my two-person tent is on it's way from REI Outlet. I'm in.

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derrickito
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 10:27 pm Reply with quote
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i like joeball mountain because the weather is usually so predictably nice that no tent is needed.
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 11:51 pm Reply with quote
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derrickito wrote:
i like joeball mountain because the weather is usually so predictably nice that no tent is needed.

the mosquitoes like the weather too, do yourself a favor...


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vaticdart
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 7:21 am Reply with quote
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derrickito wrote:
i like joeball mountain because the weather is usually so predictably nice that no tent is needed.


Without a tent, where would I hide the corndogs and cheeseburgers?

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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 7:35 am Reply with quote
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Do not eat the whole cookie or ride yr single speed mtn bike or sleep under a tarp.
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Alex
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 7:37 am Reply with quote
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or walk up the mountain on the motorcycle trails, slip, badly sprain your ankle, and get "rescued" by a very drunk woman on a 4 wheeler...all without making it to camp.

pro-tip: The ER is Shelton is very fast.
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frd_mrshall
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:49 am Reply with quote
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what kind of bike/tires are best for this trip
will a simple road bike with road tires do
or should i get some knoby tires
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derrickito
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 11:08 am Reply with quote
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regular bike tires will do you just fine if thats what you have. there is a mile or two of dirt road at the end but it's no biggie. there are a few parts where we're all lost and yelling and complaining and walking up steep parts anyways.
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ethan
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 11:14 am Reply with quote
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yes, but no!

(AKA "maybe")
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 11:26 am Reply with quote
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ethan wrote:
yes, but no!

(AKA "maybe")


Ditto.

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kristen
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 12:05 pm Reply with quote
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IN!!!! Both dates are good, but Saturday would be my first choice.

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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 12:14 pm Reply with quote
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I loved that this left straight from WLC on a Thursday night like a normal ride and resulted in camping insanity and such - but if this idea is dead for another few years, I'd vote Saturday night as it makes it easier to not be rushed by work to get out of town, and gives the hardcore the ability to make it two nights if they wish.

Either way, I'm in! Unless another flu bug decides I can't come bike camping (grumble, grumble).

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henry
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 12:23 pm Reply with quote
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summer weekends are precious. leave on friday night and make Saturday a viable summer weekend day for other stuff.

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Chip McShoulder
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 12:28 pm Reply with quote
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Is this where I reserve a ticket for Joeball mountain? Who do I give my money to? I want to make sure my reservation is secured. I can offer you a deposit, or perhaps we can use an escrow service. I am very excited and totally committed to attending this event, and I thought that everyone should now just how excited and committed I am.

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Chip McShoulder
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 12:29 pm Reply with quote
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Chip McShoulder wrote:
Is this where I reserve a ticket for Joeball mountain? Who do I give my money to? I want to make sure my reservation is secured. I can offer you a deposit, or perhaps we can use an escrow service. I am very excited and totally committed to attending this event, and I thought that everyone should now just how excited and committed I am.


Something has come up (a cousin's wedding), and I am no longer able to attend. Who do I speak to about the return of my deposit?

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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 12:37 pm Reply with quote
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I'm a maybe. This sounds like great fun, but my bike and I are hopping a plane to Belgium by way of Gay* Old Paris the following Monday morning, and I may be doing last minute packing and/or freaking out. Thusly, I prefer Friday.



* = If it's not gay yet, it's about to be!
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Alex
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 1:06 pm Reply with quote
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henry wrote:
summer weekends are precious. leave on friday night and make Saturday a viable summer weekend day for other stuff.


what he said.
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freemywrld
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 1:18 pm Reply with quote
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For us nine-to-fivers, how long is the ride post-ferry? Will there be a group heading out in the afternoon/evening or are folks taking off earlier on Friday?

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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 1:28 pm Reply with quote
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jsmg wrote:
I'm a maybe. This sounds like great fun, but my bike and I are hopping a plane to Belgium by way of Gay* Old Paris the following Monday morning, and I may be doing last minute packing and/or freaking out. Thusly, I prefer Friday.



* = If it's not gay yet, it's about to be!


Random fact I learned while reading about Elvis and Seattle this morning: the Fun Forest used to be called 'Gayland'.

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joeball
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 1:33 pm Reply with quote
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I appreciate hearing peoples takes on their preference, I wouldn't expect a unanimous vote.

Friday Pros:
-You start your weekend as soon as you get off work.
-You have the potential to be back in Seattle before noon on Saturday.
-We get first dibs on camp sites over the cars.

Friday Cons:
-You have to make the 5:30 pm boat to make it to camp before dark. (~3 hour travel time).
-The group may get divided into multiple sailings
-The liquor store may close.
-Doubtful that we will ride to the top (but it would be fun, stargazing perhaps)

Saturday Pros
-Potential to leave in one group (I propose the 10am sailing again)
-Potential to ride a new, longer route, (more dirt roads possibly)
-Time to set up camp then ride to the top of the mtn for awesome views
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrjoeball/3564925417/in/set-72157618841377085/
-More time to ride trails or hang out at camp
-All daylight
-Swim?

Saturday Cons
-Less time to do 'other' things this weekend
-The gates open for cars to drive in at 9am on Sat so the horse trailers and yer mom might have first pick spots by the time we get to camp
-More time means more food/drink to haul up.

Please continue to discuss.
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fatasian
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 1:45 pm Reply with quote
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i love car camping, you?
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derrickito
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 1:52 pm Reply with quote
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im always happy to lead a late crew out on friday and spend two nights (if some come over saturday)

i sorta know the way in the dark now
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 2:02 pm Reply with quote
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frd_mrshall wrote:
what kind of bike/tires are best for this trip
will a simple road bike with road tires do
or should i get some knoby tires


In 2008 I made it most of the way up the gravel/dirt road with 28mm touring tires on a road bike loaded down with 30 lbs of crap.

That said, I'm still glad I'll be doing it with 32mm tires this year.

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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 2:03 pm Reply with quote
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I could make the 530 Friday sailing easy enough if I ride into work with my gear as I'm already downtown.

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Kyleen
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 2:13 pm Reply with quote
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I like derrick's idea. I'm in for the friday to sunday plan, unless I'm not. I'll spare you the personal details.
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joeball
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 3:01 pm Reply with quote
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MEET FRIDAY, JUNE 25th AT 5:00 P.M. (boat sails at 5:30) AT COLEMAN DOCK FOR THE LARGE GROUP DEPARTURE.

OK I'm pretty sold on Friday, a 5:30 boat has been reasonable enough for the past 2 years for 9-5ers that have some level of flexibility. We will have a booze/food stop on the way, just bring your minimal camping gear and your bike.

There will be a new route, more dirt, more direct, less steep (Ben promises)
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=3740442

The big sellers are this is flexible, people can do one night and then get back on Sat or people can stay 2 nights if they want. Also no competing with cars for spots and less neighbors to piss off for a Friday party.

Derrick can still lead a later group on the 6:45 or 7:50 boat Friday night. (BUT I HIGHLY SUGGEST MAKING THE 5:30 BOAT) Derrick will take the classic route, regardless you will get to camp after dark so bring a light, keep your riding partners in site and be prepared to meet the insanity of Colonel Kurtz's army for the 5:30 boaters that ate the whole cookie.


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frd_mrshall
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 3:20 pm Reply with quote
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Im going to eat the whole cookie!
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derrickito
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roger that. i'll lead out a 6:45 boat group.
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Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 3:24 pm Reply with quote
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Barring unforeseen loss of life or limb, I do believe I have upgraded from definite maybe to FUCK YEAH!

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is there consciousness for whether its a good ride for a SS MTB? may be fun for the trails, but i'm sure the traitor can handle it as well...
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bott wrote:
is there consciousness for whether its a good ride for a SS MTB? may be fun for the trails, but i'm sure the traitor can handle it as well...

you'll be walking up bits in either case, but ss mtb will have way more fun on the way down.
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frd_mrshall wrote:
Im going to eat the whole cookie!


atta boy

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mork the delayer wrote:
frd_mrshall wrote:
Im going to eat the whole cookie!


atta boy


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derrickito wrote:
regular bike tires will do you just fine if thats what you have. there is a mile or two of dirt road at the end but it's no biggie. there are a few parts where we're all lost and yelling and complaining and walking up steep parts anyways.
SOME regular bike tires will do fine..

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