I'm considering it for a touring bike. The Genius tubing was at one point considered to be good stuff. I don't know how it stands up to today's steel tubing though.
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dennyt
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:12 am
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Sexy!
langston
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:20 am
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goddam sexy!
Can you really justify spending my rent on just the frame though? If the $ isn't an issue, then by all means get it.
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lieutenantsean
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:03 am
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The tubing in that frame will probably hold up fine.
But, that's not a touring frame.
It doesn't have any braze-ons to mount racks and the stays look a little short for a frame that large.
That bike screams racing bike to me.
It would be one sexy ass racing bike though, I got a chubby just looking at it.
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foozmeat
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:58 pm
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lieutenantsean wrote:
The tubing in that frame will probably hold up fine.
But, that's not a touring frame.
It doesn't have any braze-ons to mount racks and the stays look a little short for a frame that large.
Right, I thought about the braze-ons later. Too bad .
terrydean
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:18 am
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It would make a sweet bottom for my STP tall bike..
foozmeat
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:51 am
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nah you'd need two of those for your tall bike. It would be the fastest, most aero tall bike in existence. I guess you could balance it out with some old schwinn steel wheels and a one-piece steel crankset.
derrickito
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if you're looking for a good multipurpose (touring) bike, have you checked out surly cross check frames?
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foozmeat wrote:
nah you'd need two of those for your tall bike. It would be the fastest, most aero tall bike in existence. I guess you could balance it out with some old schwinn steel wheels and a one-piece steel crankset.
The tall bike I build for the STP will be made from a couple of nice frames, probably from that guy. He always has nice steel frames on ebay. I'm going to start collecting bits now, and don't be suprised if I spend $350 on each frame for it. It's going to be NICE.
foozmeat
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:13 am
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derrickito wrote:
if you're looking for a good multipurpose (touring) bike, have you checked out surly cross check frames?
I've come across people speaking favorably of Surly's Long Haul Trucker frames. They've got the extra bits for mounting fenders and racks on separate connectors.
You've got your Kona outfitted for touring right? How's that working?
derrickito
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wonderful. the main reason why i bought that bike is because of how versatile it is. i can use it as a fast road bike, stripped down with slender sleek tires and slip on a carbon fork.. or i can beef it up with the steel fork and head out on a weeklong trip.
ive had full front and rear panniers on it and i know it can handle the weight. (lowriders on the front). i have a big set of fenders on it now, it'll accept the fenders and racks at the same time, and the stock wheels can fit a huge range of tires (i usually run 23's on it, but have bigger ones on for winter and rain now). tons of eyelets. large gear range (27, plenty of grannies for big slow ascents).
if i was going to do some serious month after month touring id put a stronger wheelset on, 36 or 40 spokes. but for stock, the wheels have done great, i just popped my first spoke in a year of heavy riding.
the surly's sound even better for an all around versatile bike. arent the frames steel? (my frame is aluminum, fork is steel). in the last year ive been trying out all kinds of things, and ive settled on the fact that steel might be a bit heavier, but it is almost 100 percent dependable. if i was buying a new all around bike with the possibility of touring, id want to check out the surlys
the real touring set up bikes that ive come across have a few things built on for convenience, like extra water bottle holders and frame pump holders and all that jive, but nothing that a few panniers cant hold.
does anyone know if there is a surly dealer around here? all this thinking about them makes me want to check one of them out now
jillita
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:14 pm
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If I ever get myself organized I'm going to get a Surly LHT. They get rave reviews from the touring crowd and have been compared to Rivendell touring frames w/o the expensive name. At $400/frame-fork it can't be beat (well maybe it can but I'm going with this one). Plus I drool over that color green (for real). I know that RC can order Surlys and last time I was in there they had a LHT set up.
I work w/someone who has ridden all over the world and the one reason he only rides steel frames is not because they're more durable, not because they're a smoother ride, but because if your frame breaks down in the boonies you can sauter a steel frame back together, but not any other material. Good lesson.
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forget anything nice ive ever said about the stock kona jake wheels. i was just trueing them up and saw that i have cracked rims in about 5 places
foozmeat
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:32 pm
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if you take the wright bros. wheel building class you can dig through a box of rims that have suffered catastrophic failures. Very interesting.
I'm very nearly done building a set of unpainted deep-vs with 36H high-flange campy records that I restored. They're laced 4-cross. I suspect they'll take a beating.
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